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richardvg03
Jun 22, 2007, 2:33 AM
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I'm looking to buy a helmet and I can't seem to find a helmet that I feel could handle a fall... frankly... i think they all look like they'd break if I dropped them on the ground! Any suggestions?
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jt512
Jun 22, 2007, 2:34 AM
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richardvg03 wrote: I'm looking to buy a helmet and I can't seem to find a helmet that I feel could handle a fall... frankly... i think they all look like they'd break if I dropped them on the ground! Any suggestions?
Don't drop them on the ground.
Jay
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richardvg03
Jun 22, 2007, 2:38 AM
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Well there's Jay with his words of wisdom as usual... thanks. Anybody else?
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hyongx
Jun 22, 2007, 2:41 AM
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I personally reccomend this helmet.
A photo is attached for your convenience.
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binrat
Jun 22, 2007, 2:43 AM
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My personal helmet is a Petzl ecrin roc.
binrat
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catskillshiker
Jun 22, 2007, 3:05 AM
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I use a Petzl Meteor III. I feel it covers more of my head in case I take a nasty whipper while leading.
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richardvg03
Jun 22, 2007, 3:05 AM
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hyongx wrote: I personally reccomend this helmet. A photo is attached for your convenience.
this come from a guy who wears this for a helmet...
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rockguide
Jun 22, 2007, 3:15 AM
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Yes, some helmets would break in a hard fall.
It all depends on what you plan to use the helmet for ...
If you are worried about bashing your head in a fall, go with the light weight ones that look so brittle. Like a bike helmet, they break in a fall absorbing force and protecting you.
If you are worried about rockfall, go with the hard shell (I like the Ecrin roc) as it will bounce off rock and still be good. Something big will still crack it (and possibly save your life) but it handles routine whacks better. (ice climbers may take falling ice to the head multiple times in a day, depending on how they locate their belays)
The old burly heavy duty helmets? The Old "Joe Brown" was the king of burly, but so hot that it introduced other risks (like going into heatstroke while blinded by eyes full of sweat).
The modern helmets are much better.
B
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majid_sabet
Jun 22, 2007, 4:29 AM
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Sgt. Gilbert
let me measure your head
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abock33
Jun 22, 2007, 6:31 AM
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What's wrong with your GI helmet? Besides the fact that it weighs 10 lbs.
It won't break if it drops.
I don't think it would break if you fell and landed head first in it.
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overlord
Jun 22, 2007, 8:14 AM
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climbing helmets are primarily designed to keep your head in one piece if something falls onto it and not if your head falls onto something
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tisar
Jun 22, 2007, 10:27 AM
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To add a question that might or not be of interest:
Is there any reason not to use skater helmets? They are designed to protect your head in fall scenarios - plus they often look much better than the standard climbing models. Besides maybe weight I can't imagine anything wrong with them.
Any experience out there?
- Daniel
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summerprophet
Jun 22, 2007, 3:30 PM
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I have encountered a few climbers that climb in skater helmets. They are designed for similar impact forces but tend to be warmer than my Ecrin Rock.
You can get them with a brim though........
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j_ung
Jun 22, 2007, 3:56 PM
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I sometimes use a Protec helmet if I'm on something with bad fall potential and I'm not so worried about rockfall. All in all, I think it's a pretty good idea.
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shrug7
Jun 22, 2007, 4:10 PM
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The Grivel Salamander* is shaped very close to a skater helmet thus giving more protection to the back of the head/neck. But much cooler.
The fitting systems are different. The pro-tech I don't think is designed with "looking up" constantly in mind.
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ust a side note..If you have a big head I do recommend the Grivel.
just my $0.02
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gb3985
Jun 22, 2007, 6:27 PM
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I have a BD half dome and i really like it.It comfortable to wear and is lower than most climbing helmets.
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tradmanclimbs
Jun 22, 2007, 6:38 PM
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I had 2 BD halfdomes, still have one for clients. i do NOT like this helmet. I got hit above the ear with ice and got a nasty cut on my scalp while wearing the helmet!. Talk about poor protection. They look cool but lack protection, break easily (i broke 2) and are tough to adjust properly. Petzle Ellios offers better ptotection in the same weight class INMOP
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gb3985
Jun 22, 2007, 6:45 PM
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I was going to get a Ellios but one they didnt have my size and two i bought it as a recomendation from a friend.
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cracklover
Jun 22, 2007, 7:13 PM
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In reply to: <snip> I got hit above the ear with ice and got a nasty cut on my scalp while wearing the helmet!. Talk about poor protection.
In reply to: climbing helmets are primarily designed to keep your head in one piece if something falls onto it
These guys are right. You're asking too much of climbing helmets. Look up the regulations on climbing helmets. They're not supposed to provide safety if you fall, and they're not supposed to provide safety from an impact on the side.
They may, in fact, fail if you drop them on the ground. A number of people (myself included) have had them fail inside the security of their packs!
The regulations a climbing helmet needs to pass are related to resisting puncture, and resisting an object falling onto it from above.
In other words, rockfall.
GO
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shrug7
Jun 22, 2007, 7:19 PM
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j_ung wrote: shrug7 wrote: The pro-tech I don't think is designed with "looking up" constantly in mind. I does pretty well, actually. Well enough that this is the first time that even occurred to me. I haven't a single problem looking up. Aside from the occasional climbing use, it's my main whitewater and snowboarding helmet.
I used to have a pro-tech when I did inline, but that was many a moon ago. Didn't even think to try and find it when I needed on for climbing.  They are probably much lighter now then in the early 90s.
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duckbuster_13
Jun 27, 2007, 5:36 PM
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Check out road bike helmets. While you definitely won't gain any style points, many road cyclists... especially tri-atheletes are in an aero position which forces them to look "up" during the ride. Subsequently, most road bike helmets have pretty decent clearance for vertical visibility.
Also, road bike helmets are probably the most ventilated you're likely to find.
the negatives? ventilation means you're exposing your scalp to smaller rocks in the event of a rockfall... or potentially big sharp ones.
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climbinwv
Jun 27, 2007, 5:55 PM
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WTF!!! I just blew 90$ for a BD Tracer when i coulda bought a skate helmet for 30$....DAMN IT!!! I used to skate and i know my old protec was way more comfortable then my new BD. I'm wondering if there is a way to retrofit a protec so that the holes on top can be covered with a wiremesh screen strong enough to stop small/sharp rockfall?
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