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majid_sabet
Oct 15, 2008, 4:29 AM
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When I travel overseas, I normally carry a lot of equipment in my bags. Sometimes, one luggage can have as much as $1500 worth of climbing gear . Thieves at the airport are my biggest worry cause during plane changes and in transit, luggage handlers can easily open and remove whatever they want without me noticing till I end up on the other side.
Worse than that, most airlines always take the thieves side and filing a successful claim with them are very slim so, to secure my goodies, I had made an eight foot long sling from a 1/4" steel wire with two loops at the end.I run one loop thru the most expensive climbing gear then lock the loop to handle of the bag with a padlock . Now ,I think this may work in cars by locking the expensive gear to the seat bracket which makes it little harder for thieves to steal your stuff.
Anyway, if you guys are interested on the Sorbat anti- theft cable, I can make a bunch of them and ship it to you at cost .I have few hundred feet of steel cables to make these cords and I am guessing it would cost about $17 to $23 which includes shipping to most addresses in the USA
Here is the photo and how you can use the cable( the actual cable is thicker than what you see).The big biner represent a lock since I couldn't find my padlock.
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epoch
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Oct 15, 2008, 4:33 AM
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So, what's your solution to the 'misplaced' bag?
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8flood8
Oct 15, 2008, 5:31 AM
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he locks the cable on his scrotum.
my solution is to carry on my climbing gear. i don't even get weird looks from airline security.
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AlexCV
Oct 15, 2008, 1:36 PM
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No ice climbing gear heh?
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joshy8200
Oct 15, 2008, 1:47 PM
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That's not a bad idea. Of course you can't rule out the 'lost' bag, but certainly this would deter someone from quickly pilfering a item.
Could work well in the car too. Although, it might just piss of would be thief and said thief just destroy your car/stuff.
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adatesman
Oct 15, 2008, 1:52 PM
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kovacs69
Oct 15, 2008, 1:57 PM
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adatesman wrote: Did no one else notice the cable going through the carabiner? Oh, its on a locked cable... no way I'll be able to unclip it! 
If you would have actually read the post you would have seen that the biner represents the padlock he couldn't fine.
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Oct 15, 2008, 1:58 PM
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adatesman wrote: Did no one else notice the cable going through the carabiner? Oh, its on a locked cable... no way I'll be able to unclip it!
From the OP
"The big biner represent a lock since I couldn't find my padlock."
Reading
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mojomonkey
Oct 15, 2008, 2:13 PM
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Handy idea - I'll keep it in mind next trip. For those looking to grab ready made solutions, a variety of bike/laptop/snowboard locks would also fill a similar role. Depending on the size of available holes in the gear, the swaged loops might be hard to fit through. Something like this snowboard lock may fit better:
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shimanilami
Oct 15, 2008, 2:49 PM
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I put exploding ink packs in my luggage. You should see those NSA inspectors' faces!
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Arrogant_Bastard
Oct 15, 2008, 4:05 PM
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mojomonkey wrote: Handy idea - I'll keep it in mind next trip. For those looking to grab ready made solutions, a variety of bike/laptop/snowboard locks would also fill a similar role. Depending on the size of available holes in the gear, the swaged loops might be hard to fit through. Something like this snowboard lock may fit better:
Had one of those on my board, I don't think it took the thief anything more than 1 swift step on the wire to snap it.
By the looks of the wire in Majidiots pic a simple pair of dikes could cut through it. If you really want to keep your gear thread the eyelets over a U lock, like a kryptonite. Not that someone wouldn't just take the whole thing to spite you, but the gear would be worthless to them.
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mojomonkey
Oct 15, 2008, 4:17 PM
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Arrogant_Bastard wrote: Had one of those on my board, I don't think it took the thief anything more than 1 swift step on the wire to snap it. By the looks of the wire in Majidiots pic a simple pair of dikes could cut through it. If you really want to keep your gear thread the eyelets over a U lock, like a kryptonite. Not that someone wouldn't just take the whole thing to spite you, but the gear would be worthless to them.
Never used one, so I had no idea how burly they are. I don't think this (or Majid's) is intended to stop a determined thief; it won't. This is more a preventative for casual "opportunity theft".
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GeneralZon
Oct 15, 2008, 4:32 PM
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Why do you have to bring sexual orientation into this discussion. I think that well educated dikes would cut through it too.
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mtnkid85
Oct 15, 2008, 4:33 PM
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This seems like a resonable way to secure gear. Of course its not going to stop a determined thief, nothing short of a bullet will, but it may deter the average smash and grab punks. Ive used similiar but fatter cables for securing Kayaks, bikes, ect to the racks on our trucks. Just thread it through everything to make it a big pain in the ass to pull any one thing off.
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USnavy
Oct 15, 2008, 4:39 PM
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kovacs69 wrote: adatesman wrote: Did no one else notice the cable going through the carabiner? Oh, its on a locked cable... no way I'll be able to unclip it! If you would have actually read the post you would have seen that the biner represents the padlock he couldn't fine.
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themattreid
Oct 16, 2008, 3:07 AM
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if you can't carry your rack... you need to fedex it to the place you're going. I never check bags, even going to costa rica for a week or more - I always carry 100% of my trip on my back.
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Oct 16, 2008, 4:13 PM
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thats probably the best solution...
Most people have lost bags at airports before, and it sucks, even if its just some cloths. usually, if your bag is misplaced, or lost in transit, it does eventually get tracked down and returned, but that's probably not a risk you want to take with your gear.
Ship it imo, and save yourself the worry of losing your gear in transit....only downside to this approach is the cost...I don't want to know how much shipping would be on a full trad rack.
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kennoyce
Oct 16, 2008, 4:21 PM
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What are you talking about $1500 of climbing gear? every piece of climbing gear that you own is in that picture, all of which you got secondhand off of ebay, and have never used.
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USnavy
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Arrogant_Bastard wrote: mojomonkey wrote: Handy idea - I'll keep it in mind next trip. For those looking to grab ready made solutions, a variety of bike/laptop/snowboard locks would also fill a similar role. Depending on the size of available holes in the gear, the swaged loops might be hard to fit through. Something like this snowboard lock may fit better: [image]http://media.rei.com/media/881012.jpg[/image] Had one of those on my board, I don't think it took the thief anything more than 1 swift step on the wire to snap it. By the looks of the wire in Majidiots pic a simple pair of dikes could cut through it. If you really want to keep your gear thread the eyelets over a U lock, like a kryptonite. Not that someone wouldn't just take the whole thing to spite you, but the gear would be worthless to them.
Not really. I can get through a U lock in about 5 seconds with a plasma cutter. If they took it and had unlimited access to it, it would not be hard to cut through it with the wide selection of industrial metal cutting tools on the market these days.
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fatoomchk
Oct 17, 2008, 3:38 PM
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Nice idea majid, but I don't think it's going to stop the evil thieving c*nts that work at TSA.
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I travel a fair bit for work. Much of our business is in the USA. So 2 year ago my company purchased a bulk pack of TSA approved locks.
All of our the employees from our company that travel to the USA have used these locks on zippered cases and bags.
We frequently carry tools for work - ranging from spanners/wrenches through to specialist test equipment.
I would estimate that 3 out of 5 times the approved TSA locks have been used on zippered cases containing tools, TSA have used something like a 4" angle grinder to cut through the zipper tags to gain access to the bags.
They could have just used their special keys to access the approved locks but they chose not to. Instead, they chose to vandalise our luggage.
EVERY time this has happened some of our tools go missing. sometimes it is only one or two tools, other times it is up to 60% of the tools in the bag.
Now, to be fair, we could speculate that baggage handlers or others in the baggage rooms have stolen the tools now that the cases are unlocked. However, there has not been a single case of stolen tools when a staff member has travelled with luggage that either wasn't locked, or was secured closed with a coded zip tie.
TSA are fuckers. I don't feel safer when I travel, I just feel violated by a supposedly trustworthy organisation.
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Anyways, all I wanted to say to Majid is that I think his cable would help against casual theft, but it won't stop the TSA thieves with their 4" cordless angle grinder....
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Arrogant_Bastard
Oct 17, 2008, 3:50 PM
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USnavy wrote: Arrogant_Bastard wrote: mojomonkey wrote: Handy idea - I'll keep it in mind next trip. For those looking to grab ready made solutions, a variety of bike/laptop/snowboard locks would also fill a similar role. Depending on the size of available holes in the gear, the swaged loops might be hard to fit through. Something like this snowboard lock may fit better: [image]http://media.rei.com/media/881012.jpg[/image] Had one of those on my board, I don't think it took the thief anything more than 1 swift step on the wire to snap it. By the looks of the wire in Majidiots pic a simple pair of dikes could cut through it. If you really want to keep your gear thread the eyelets over a U lock, like a kryptonite. Not that someone wouldn't just take the whole thing to spite you, but the gear would be worthless to them.Not really. I can get through a U lock in about 5 seconds with a plasma cutter. If they took it and had unlimited access to it, it would not be hard to cut through it with the wide selection of industrial metal cutting tools on the market these days.
Well yes, I suppose you could also radio the Starship Enterprise and have them use the tractor beams to pull the lock apart.
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mojomonkey
Oct 20, 2008, 5:09 PM
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TSA Screener caught with evidence of $200,000 worth of items stolen from luggage, selling on eBay
No climbing gear though, just electronics. From the article:
In reply to: Among the items seized were 66 cameras, 31 laptop computers, 20 cell phones, 17 sets of electronic games, 13 pieces of jewelry, 12 GPS devices, 11 MP3 players, eight camera lenses, six video cameras and two DVD players, the affidavit said. |
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Oct 20, 2008, 5:16 PM
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mojomonkey wrote: TSA Screener caught with evidence of $200,000 worth of items stolen from luggage, selling on eBay No climbing gear though, just electronics. From the article: In reply to: Among the items seized were 66 cameras, 31 laptop computers, 20 cell phones, 17 sets of electronic games, 13 pieces of jewelry, 12 GPS devices, 11 MP3 players, eight camera lenses, six video cameras and two DVD players, the affidavit said.
It's about damn time. If they were smart, and cared, they'd set a sting and catch a couple of those fucks that handle luggage doing the same. Then perhaps a few more of them would think twice before helping themselves to our possessions. This is far more frequent than it should be, and I think it was only aided by the power they gained from 911.
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Oct 20, 2008, 5:54 PM
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In reply to: ...less than 300 TSA employees have been terminated for theft
That's still 300 people CAUGHT stealing.
How many others not yet caught??
It bothers me that I have to keep my stuff safe from the people who are supposedly keeping me safe.
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shockabuku
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I think the country should pass a law that requires all TSA employees to address anyone in civilian clothes in an airport using the words "sir" or "ma'am" only. Maybe it would help to effect a change in attitude from "these people are a pain in the ass" to one of "we're here to protect/serve these people".
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