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dj_orka
Mar 31, 2009, 4:19 PM
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It seems a bit complicated. But let me explain I am going on a trekking trip which I will be coming down an approx 80 to 100 foot cliff. The thing is that I will not be climbing back up. This is just a belay and then I will keep trekking to destination. What I was gonna do is this: use a couple of trees as anchors to attach tubular webbing to them and have an O RING passing through the webbing. ( by the way I use O rings because I am not recuperating the Tubular weebbing and the rings. this Way Im not leaving behind some expensive carabiners. once I have prepared the anchors. I would attach my harness with a figure 8 and then pass the other end of the rope through the O ring and then loop the other part of the rope to my locking carabiner and my ATC device for belaying. So the principle is that once I get down. I can retreive my rope and continue my way only leaving behind approx 5$ worth of equipment being the Tubular webbing and the O ring. IS THIS CORRECT ??? What other way would there be ? thank you for a quick reply. Jason here is a pic of the O RING ,... it can take 17 KN
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bill413
Mar 31, 2009, 4:27 PM
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Agreed with dingus - rappelling is the way to go. Just take note - if the cliff is 100 feet long, you need at least 200 feet of rope (Using either method).
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dj_orka
Mar 31, 2009, 4:30 PM
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Im sorry but I think you are mistaken. I am NOT referring to FIXED rope. Thats why I am requesting some info. the link you sumitted is for FIXED ROPES I know I will be rappelling but I am asking this questiion because once I am at the bottom I want my rope back.
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dingus
Mar 31, 2009, 4:32 PM
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FINE, do it YOUR WAY then HOSS. good LUCK. DMT
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Wunderkind
Mar 31, 2009, 4:34 PM
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rap on two strands dude. find someone who knows how to do this and will take you out and show you. i think people just didn't consider that you might be about to huck yourself off of a 100 ft cliff with no idea how to do a standard rap. yer gonna die, allez.
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bill413
Mar 31, 2009, 4:35 PM
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There is a way to do it on rappel. Try searching, your efforts should help you learn more.
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dj_orka
Mar 31, 2009, 4:36 PM
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dingus wrote: FINE, do it YOUR WAY then HOSS. good LUCK. DMT Not very comprehensive are we.
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dj_orka wrote: once I have prepared the anchors. I would attach my harness with a figure 8 and then pass the other end of the rope through the O ring and then loop the other part of the rope to my locking carabiner and my ATC device for belaying. So the principle is that once I get down. I can retreive my rope and continue my way only leaving behind approx 5$ worth of equipment being the Tubular webbing and the O ring. So you are using a fig 8 as well as ATC on the same rope?? Read very carefully.....GO SEEK INSTRUCTION.
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dingus
Mar 31, 2009, 4:37 PM
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dj_orka wrote: dingus wrote: FINE, do it YOUR WAY then HOSS. good LUCK. DMT Not very comprehensive are we. troll troll troll yer post gently down the stream.... DMT
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Mar 31, 2009, 4:41 PM
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dj_orka wrote: dingus wrote: FINE, do it YOUR WAY then HOSS. good LUCK. DMT Not very comprehensive are we. It MIGHT take SOME thought ON your PART (when COMPARING the TWO methods) TO come UP with THE method THAT you REALLY want. AND no, YOU aren't.
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dj_orka
Mar 31, 2009, 4:43 PM
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LET ME RE- ASK the QUESTION ... ( DINGUS ... your name says it.. stay clear of replying... ) IF I WANT TO RAPPELL and I want to have My rope back once Im at the bottom. What would be the SETUP.
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dingus
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dj_orka wrote: LET ME RE- ASK the QUESTION ... ( DINGUS ... your name says it.. stay clear of replying... ) IF I WANT TO RAPPELL and I want to have My rope back once Im at the bottom. What would be the SETUP. THAT is a NEW question NOT the SAME as the OLD ONE. AT least now you WANT to RAPPEL. So my WORK was NOt in VAIN. Try that google thing son! use the following letters (cut and paste) 'learn how to rappel' DMT
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Mar 31, 2009, 4:52 PM
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dj_orka wrote: LET ME RE- ASK the QUESTION ... ( DINGUS ... your name says it.. stay clear of replying... ) IF I WANT TO RAPPELL and I want to have My rope back once Im at the bottom. What would be the SETUP. Dingus and others were trying to tell you. Put rope through ring to halfway point. Put both strands of rope into ATC Rappel. Pull rope. Don't forget to tie knots in the end of the rope and make sure both ends are down on the ground. You really should get someone knowledgeable to show you before you try this. Now, please apologize to Dingus. And don't get killed
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Mar 31, 2009, 4:56 PM
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dj_orka wrote: LET ME RE- ASK the QUESTION ... ( DINGUS ... your name says it.. stay clear of replying... ) IF I WANT TO RAPPELL and I want to have My rope back once Im at the bottom. What would be the SETUP. Nice touch cheesetitting the quote. At least you didn't intentially mispell "rapell." I was getting tired of that gag.
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Mar 31, 2009, 4:59 PM
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dj_orka wrote: What I was gonna do is this: use a couple of trees as anchors to attach tubular webbing to them and have an O RING passing through the webbing. ( by the way I use O rings because I am not recuperating the Tubular weebbing and the rings. this Way Im not leaving behind some expensive carabiners. Redundancy!!!! Equalize your webbing... make your master point redundant... also, use TWO rings! ...and don't learn everything from the intraweb.
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dj_orka wrote: LET ME RE- ASK the QUESTION ... ( DINGUS ... your name says it.. stay clear of replying... ) IF I WANT TO RAPPELL and I want to have My rope back once Im at the bottom. What would be the SETUP. FIND INSTRUCTION but it's your life so: pull the rope through the o ring until it is at its halfway mark, two ends dangling down to the ground. tie knots in the ends of the ropes before you throw them so you don't accidentally rap off of one end and fall to an untimely death. use your atc-er, i mean "tube-style belay device"-to pull each strand of rope through each individual tube on the two-tube device. place this through a locking biner on your belay loop. rappel. once on the ground, untie the rope ends and pull the rope. http://canyonwiki.com/...ex.php/Rappel_device
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yokese
Mar 31, 2009, 5:45 PM
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Interesting combination of ignorance and arrogance. Hang around, you'll fit perfectly in RC.com.
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dj_orka
Mar 31, 2009, 6:28 PM
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DIngus... you're a real tard.... Google it yourself. Rappelling searches are almost all about Fixed ropes. The only one who answered properly is limeydave.
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dj_orka
Mar 31, 2009, 6:29 PM
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Thank you !!!! Finally An answer... Thank you For answering the Question perfectly .. you understood exactly what I meant.
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dingus
Mar 31, 2009, 6:34 PM
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dj_orka wrote: DIngus... you're a real tard.... This tard knows how to rappel. You don't. DMT
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dj_orka
Mar 31, 2009, 6:35 PM
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THANK YOU !!! PERFECT EXPLANATION !!!
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dj_orka
Mar 31, 2009, 6:36 PM
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Yep... maybe But I prefer knwoing how to read and look further than the tip of my nose than rappelling... makes me feel a tad smarter than you ..... Dingo
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dingus
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And yet you came here begging for advice and could not be bothered to do a search. Subtard. DMT
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limeydave
Mar 31, 2009, 6:43 PM
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dj_orka wrote: Yep... maybe But I prefer knwoing how to read and look further than the tip of my nose than rappelling... makes me feel a tad smarter than you ..... Dingo Dingus has forgotten more than you are likely to ever know. Quit being a tard - he's well respected around these parts. Take the advice, and quit being tosser or it'll be the last piece of advice you get from any of us...
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