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curt
Apr 3, 2009, 2:35 AM
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vegastradguy wrote: curt wrote: ryanb wrote: Heh just noticed that it does say it uses the new rubber in the description. Probably a type ...I just thought it was funny zappos decided to do a head to head comparison between the copper head and a strapy high heal... I also saw a video of Charles Cole on the internet saying that the Copperhead shoes have the new Mystique rubber. I ordered a pair--and they came with Onyx, so I am now exchanging them for the Project shoes. Curt I want to say that 5.10 is phasing in the mystique-- my apologies for not covering that more in the OR blog...i think you'll see the prism series pick up the Mystique rubber somewhat soon...probably within the year.
I hope you are right.
Curt
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yokese
Apr 3, 2009, 2:51 AM
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jt512 wrote: yokese wrote: JT, were you in Crossroads cafe (JTree) last Saturday? Yes. With Curt and Anna(k). I was the one drinking Arrogant Bastard. ;) Jay
Did you allow him to belay you? 
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curt
Apr 3, 2009, 2:55 AM
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yokese wrote: jt512 wrote: yokese wrote: JT, were you in Crossroads cafe (JTree) last Saturday? Yes. With Curt and Anna(k). I was the one drinking Arrogant Bastard. ;) Jay Did you allow him to belay you?
Yes, and I caught him quite uneventfully a number of times that day. 
Curt
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dretket
Apr 3, 2009, 2:57 AM
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You just went up two points because Arrogant Bastard is one of the best beers being brewed today.
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jt512
Apr 3, 2009, 2:58 AM
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yokese wrote: jt512 wrote: yokese wrote: JT, were you in Crossroads cafe (JTree) last Saturday? Yes. With Curt and Anna(k). I was the one drinking Arrogant Bastard. ;) Jay Did you allow him to belay you?
Yeah, but he doesn't actually belay the way he thought he did. While belaying me he noticed that he does hold the brake strand of the rope with his guide hand when sliding his brake hand up the rope when he senses that the climber might fall. That's better than never doing it, at least.
Jay
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curt
Apr 3, 2009, 3:38 AM
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jt512 wrote: yokese wrote: jt512 wrote: yokese wrote: JT, were you in Crossroads cafe (JTree) last Saturday? Yes. With Curt and Anna(k). I was the one drinking Arrogant Bastard. ;) Jay Did you allow him to belay you? Yeah, but he doesn't actually belay the way he thought he did. While belaying me he noticed that he does hold the brake strand of the rope with his guide hand when sliding his brake hand up the rope when he senses that the climber might fall. That's better than never doing it, at least. Jay
Thanks. I was going to drop you just out of spite--but I then realized you would merely post that you were right all along. Obviously, I wasn't about to provide you with that opportunity.
Curt
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granite_grrl
Apr 3, 2009, 11:19 AM
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Parkerkat wrote: I like climbing shoes! +1 I own a few pairs! +3 only down 6 points now!
Sorry.
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Gelada
Apr 3, 2009, 1:51 PM
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dretket wrote: You just went up two points because Arrogant Bastard is one of the best beers being brewed today.
Oh please oh please mutate this into a beer thread.
Tried Arrogant Bastard recently, and my next draft happened to be Blithering Idiot - 11.1% ABV but still oh so smooth. Instant favorite and the name is apt as well.
Weyerbacher is killin' it these days:
http://www.weyerbacher.com/cwo/Beers
Oh and... ain't nobody here know shit about shit and if they ate shit there would be just twice as much shit in their head cuz all ya'll already have shit for brains.
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nivlac
Apr 3, 2009, 2:40 PM
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vegastradguy wrote: curt wrote: ryanb wrote: Heh just noticed that it does say it uses the new rubber in the description. Probably a type ...I just thought it was funny zappos decided to do a head to head comparison between the copper head and a strapy high heal... I also saw a video of Charles Cole on the internet saying that the Copperhead shoes have the new Mystique rubber. I ordered a pair--and they came with Onyx, so I am now exchanging them for the Project shoes. Curt I want to say that 5.10 is phasing in the mystique-- my apologies for not covering that more in the OR blog...i think you'll see the prism series pick up the Mystique rubber somewhat soon...probably within the year.
I noticed that Projects only have a 2mm thick sole - Curt, let me know how they hold up, that's only half as thick as most soles. And I'd be interested to hear more from any reviewers.
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dretket
Apr 3, 2009, 3:32 PM
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Nice, I'll have to check those out. I'm fortunate enough to come from the Portland, OR area. We have breweries all over the place. Have you tried Rogue's Dead Guy Ale?
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ja1484
Apr 3, 2009, 3:42 PM
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angry wrote: brotherbbock wrote: Myxomatosis wrote: brotherbbock wrote: yeah it is. jt is notorious for picking on people. JT has a bully syndrome. Just install his "killfile" programme so you can block him. should be renamed "killjay" instead. he is the only one who needs blocking. I've found a lot of people to block with his program. I've never considered Jay.
We've had our disagreements, but I'll take him over the hundreds of retards, gumbies, and Boulder Brosefs that continually discuss the same 10 topics on this fucking forum.
See sig.
I guess there's a reason I don't post much any more. If you're not trolling, you're wasting your time here.
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Gelada
Apr 3, 2009, 4:52 PM
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dretket wrote: Nice, I'll have to check those out. I'm fortunate enough to come from the Portland, OR area. We have breweries all over the place. Have you tried Rogue's Dead Guy Ale?
Oh yeh I have. Enjoyed it as well - pretty different than most stuff out there. I'm sure we could go back and forth all damn virtual day, but the two Breweries I am pysched on at the moment is the aforementioned Weyerbacher and Loast Coast Brewery.
The latter has the most badassily balanced brown ale - Downtown Brown.
Oh and.. rar rar rar the Projects wargble wargble wargble You suck/I'm cool wah wah wah
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dretket
Apr 3, 2009, 5:53 PM
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You forgot to add in a random reference of dick or gay. I'll have to check out the Lost Coast brewery, I'll be down in that area in May.
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curt
Apr 3, 2009, 6:30 PM
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nivlac wrote: vegastradguy wrote: curt wrote: ryanb wrote: Heh just noticed that it does say it uses the new rubber in the description. Probably a type ...I just thought it was funny zappos decided to do a head to head comparison between the copper head and a strapy high heal... I also saw a video of Charles Cole on the internet saying that the Copperhead shoes have the new Mystique rubber. I ordered a pair--and they came with Onyx, so I am now exchanging them for the Project shoes. Curt I want to say that 5.10 is phasing in the mystique-- my apologies for not covering that more in the OR blog...i think you'll see the prism series pick up the Mystique rubber somewhat soon...probably within the year. I noticed that Projects only have a 2mm thick sole - Curt, let me know how they hold up, that's only half as thick as most soles. And I'd be interested to hear more from any reviewers.
I have the 2mm Mystique rubber on my 5.10 Daescent approach shoes. I have had them for about 3 months and have done lots of climbing in them--on some of the sharpest rock on the planet (Oak Flat, AZ) and there is absolutely no visible wear on the soles yet. That is what is so amazing about the Mystique rubber--it is far stickier than any other rubber, but (according to 5.10) it wears 5 to 8 times longer than other climbing shoe rubber.
And no, I have no idea how they achieved this combination.
Curt
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debaser655321
Apr 3, 2009, 6:34 PM
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The Zappos page is ready for FAILblog.org :
-2 mm thick Stealth® Mystic™ outsole which is a brutally tough rubber that is designed to be lightweight, abrasion resistant, durable and the highest in friction.
-The picture clearly shows the shoes have Onyx soles.
BTW, you all suck, dick dick dick dick dick, worst thread ever."""" and ; : ,
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Apr 3, 2009, 6:37 PM
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There is a video on spadout.com of a FiveTen rep saying the copperheads have the Mystique rubber as well. Maybe they intended to have the mystique, but went back and used onyxx instead?
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k.l.k
Apr 3, 2009, 6:56 PM
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curt wrote: That is what is so amazing about the Mystique rubber--it is far stickier than any other rubber, but (according to 5.10) it wears 5 to 8 times longer than other climbing shoe rubber.
That would be especially miraculous from a marketing standpoint.
Those of us who cared about such things have had 2 and 3mm soles available for years. I used to regularly have an appropriate pair of shoes ground thin, just because of the improvement in sensitivity and feel.
Ironically, one of the places it can make the most difference is in a stiffer pair of shoes that you'd use on dimes.
It's been years since I've bothered.
I'll reserve judgment on the friction claims. Most of my climbing now is on rock that doesn't have anywhere near the texture of Queen Creek or JTree, and so the differences in rubber are far less noticeable than when I was a SoCal local.
In any event, five ten doesn't make a shoe that fits me, aside from Mocs, so I'll wait until they bring the new jeebus to those.
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