In your opinion, when does a fall become a whipper?
when you pull 3-5 pieces one after another
Bullshit Majid, you're acting like a noob. That's a zipper.
A whipper is a type of fall, not the distance (in my opinion at least) it implies that you fall straight onto the rope without hitting anything. As opposed to ledging out, decking, or penduluming. Or *shudder* falling on slab.
In your opinion, when does a fall become a whipper?
when you pull 3-5 pieces one after another
Bullshit Majid, you're acting like a noob. That's a zipper.
A whipper is a type of fall, not the distance (in my opinion at least) it implies that you fall straight onto the rope without hitting anything. As opposed to ledging out, decking, or penduluming. Or *shudder* falling on slab.
whipper sounds a lot like whopper with cheese and I am not acting but a true n00b.
1. A fall in which the climber is swung into the rock caused by a hard catch.
2. A big lead fall.
I have seen a lot more people use the second definition then the first. However it would be my guess that the correct definition is number one but over time the definition has changed to number two.
Personally, when I am referring to a whipper I am referring to a long lead fall.
(This post was edited by USnavy on Jun 1, 2009, 7:59 AM)
1. A fall in which the climber is swung into the rock caused by a hard catch.
2. A big lead fall.
I have seen a lot more people use the second definition then the first. However it would be my guess that the correct definition is number one but over time the definition has changed to number two.
Personally, when I am referring to a whipper I am referring to a long lead fall.
I think the OP is asking your opinion as to HOW long, judging from the poll.
I also tend to think of a whipper as a big lead fall. And in voting, I realized that I tended to consider the whipper-threshold as a distance I had not yet fallen - a la, to go where I have not gone before. And that distance could more generally be a function of the style of climbing: sport versus trad (I realize some smaller set of tradsters do indeed commit to big whippers).
It also could be a function of fall factor. For example:
* 30 foot fall on 100 feet of rope is sub-whipper threshold; * 15 foot fall right onto the anchor is a super-whipper!
Oh, and I voted for 15+, but agree with bill, it is hard to pin down a number, 15 feet is not usually that far, 30 is usually a long ways in my book! I recently witnessed a 30 footer, the guy screamed, ran out of air and took a breath and screamed again before coming to a rest inches above a ledge-----sport climbing, he skipped a bolt and blew a clip. That was a whipper!
I have seen a lot more people use the second definition then the first. However it would be my guess that the correct definition is number one but over time the definition has changed to number two.
Anything that involves number two should qualify as a whipper.
What was that urban dictionary definition of "splitter" again?
(This post was edited by multiades on Jun 1, 2009, 12:08 PM)
I have seen a lot more people use the second definition then the first. However it would be my guess that the correct definition is number one but over time the definition has changed to number two.
Anything that involves number two should qualify as a whipper.
What was that urban dictionary definition of "splitter" again?
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