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NCcrew


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I recently switched from indoor gyms and top roping to trad climbing and i love BD gear so naturally i looked to their packs to get a good 30-40L but none of them had the gear loops, i really like this option on the smaller 10-20L i use for day trips top roping as it allows me to keep some of the less used rack separate and either haul it up or leave it at a ledge as i go.

Any suggestions on a good 30-40L with gear loops and all the normal bells and whistles? The nicer the bag the better so money is not the important issue here


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Some of the Arcteryx bags like the khamsin 40/50/70/etc have them


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Deuter makes a bunch of good ones. You'll pay quite a bit for them, but they're good.

Pace 28 SL
Guide 30+ SL
Cruise 26 SL


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Osprey made one recently that I used for a year or so. Pair of gear loops, was a 40L bag. Bright yellow, dont remember its name. Never carried well on my hips so I traded it out, but I'm sure it fits great for some people.


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Bought the MEC Cragalot pack last July at the Vancouver MEC store. Love it! It has the gear loops plus is the right size for carrying a rope or rack pus water, layers etc. Comfy. And not overkill (I bought an Arcteryx Muira 50 which was overkill; awesome pack but heavy!) The MEC pack is 45L. I think you can order it via mec.ca


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I have a grivel rock light pack that has two gear loops on the waist belt. it also has two gear loops inside the pack for keeping things handy. It is a 30/35L. I can't remember what it was called though. I have found that it is actually more comfortable to wear with a harness making it great to climb with.


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Check out the Mammut Face 22. Currently on sale at the REI-Outlet.com
Compact, lots of features.
Mammut Face Technical Daypack - 22 Liters - '09 Closeout
Item # 799725
$74.93$114.95*
REDUCED PRICEYou Save 34%

http://www.rei.com/product/799725


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I usually use a CCW Valdez. About $115. Gear loops, the size you want. I found CCW last year after a round of obsessive pack comparisons.

http://www.coldcoldworldpacks.com/intro.htm


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That sounds like exactly what I need, grivel is the manufacturer? I've never heard of them.


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Grivel is the manufacturer. They make a lot of equipment for ice climbing. That may be why you have never heard of them. There stuff is quality though.


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Take a look at Cold Cold World. All the packs have gear loops on the belt and daisy chains on the pack body.

They are a small shop and you can e-mail the owner directly. He makes everything by hand and they are awesome. It reminds me of old Dana Designs stuff, and I think that he makes the best packs (with Cilo Gear being a close second). For a VERY reasonable price, Randy, the owner, will customize your CCW pack to include or exclude whatever features you want.

I have the Chernobyl and could not be happier!


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Millet Prolight. Comes in 35/45/55 and a host of pretty colors. It's narrow, simple, durable, and inexpensive.

My favorite climbing pack for all seasons.


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CCW packs are great. Check out the Icesac/Ricesac from Wild Things too.


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REI pinnacle pack fits the bill...


NCcrew


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I found the Grivel site and found two good packs the "rock day 30" and the "alpine 35 +5" but i see no way to order them!?


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Liberty mountain is Grivel's new US distributor, but they don't seem to carry those packs. You either have to go to Europe, pick something else, or pay ~$50 for shipping.


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I dont mind paying $50 for shipping if i knew where to order it, i need to blow all this christmas money on new gear before i do something stupid like save it.... LOL


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http://knradventuregear.com/Packs/grivelpacks/grivrock.htm this may have been the site where i ordered mine.


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NCcrew wrote:
I dont mind paying $50 for shipping if i knew where to order it, i need to blow all this christmas money on new gear before i do something stupid like save it.... LOL

Jesus. Do something your god damn self.


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gmggg wrote:
NCcrew wrote:
I dont mind paying $50 for shipping if i knew where to order it, i need to blow all this christmas money on new gear before i do something stupid like save it.... LOL

Jesus. Do something your god damn self.

What am i not doing myself??


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Gregory makes a pack called the Alpinisto. It's got gear loops at the waist. Just out of curiosity what do you plan to do with those gear loops? I only have ever used them when hauling gear for large groups and occasionally when mountaineering but other than that everything fits in the pack.

By the way you can see a review of the pack here: http://gregsclimbingreviews.blogspot.com/...o-backpack.html#more


NCcrew


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I like to put some of my heavier cams etc on the gear loops to lighten the weight on my harness, that way the weight is distributed across the pack and onto my shoulders and gives me some ease of movement


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tedman wrote:
Osprey made one recently that I used for a year or so. Pair of gear loops, was a 40L bag. Bright yellow, dont remember its name. Never carried well on my hips so I traded it out, but I'm sure it fits great for some people.

The Exposure series. Good bags.

They now make the Variant series and the Mutant. Also good.

Racking on the pack sucks. Removing the waistbelt is better unless you're on *really* easy ground.


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I've got the old Karimor Alpiniste 40L, it's got super rugged gear loops, and it sits nice and high above your waiste so it doesn't get in the way if you have a harness on. It's really comfortable, and it's got a sleeve inside that makes it expandable to about 60L. And it was very cheap.

I don't know how the new one's are though. I see they are now purple and white. They are more expensive , but not too much.


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Might I throw an idea out there...

The best pack you can get is the one that fits YOU the best.

Shop around!

I love my REI Pinnacle pack. It has all of the features I look for, like a side zipper for easier access to gear, gear loop on one of the hip pads, bladder integration, two interior gear loops, and removable frame stays and frame sheet (because you don't really always need them).

To boot, it's not that expensive either.

However, find a gear shop in your area and do a lot of research. Nothing will kill an approach quicker than a horrible fitting pack. Climbing approaches tend to be more strenuous than just regular hiking trails, so look for the pack that is going to wobble around the least and hug your back like a...well...like a backpack!

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