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sungam


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The part when you're planning and say to yourself "well, shit! this isn't so bad! I can scrape this much together in no tim-FUCK I FORGOT TRANSPORT!!!!!" and the price doubles?
Aw damn - Easyjet does not fly Glasgow to Anchorage.
Hmmmmmmmmm


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You could always attempt the NW Face on Devil's Thumb. Then you wouldn't need return airfare...

Seriously, I think all flights into Alaska are through Seattle, and then via Alaska Air. What is your ultimate destination after Anchorage?

Devils Thumb NW Face. As yet, unclimbed.





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You may want to think about the volcano explosion first... don't you have to fly past that to get to Alaska?


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kachoong wrote:
You may want to think about the volcano explosion first... don't you have to fly past that to get to Alaska?

Maybe he can bike across the floating ash.

And Canada.


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sungam wrote:
The part when you're planning and say to yourself "well, shit! this isn't so bad! I can scrape this much together in no tim-FUCK I FORGOT TRANSPORT!!!!!" and the price doubles?
Aw damn - Easyjet does not fly Glasgow to Anchorage.
Hmmmmmmmmm

if you are going with Johhny, you better add another 3x for SAR to the cost of getting you back home . You know how Johnny manage his belay with gri gri.


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Edge, why has Devil's Thumb not been climbed? It look beautiful!


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Edge, why has Devil's Thumb not been climbed? It look beautiful!

Combination of chossy rock and high objective danger from the hanging snowfields. That part of SE Alaska gets heavy precipitation, and avalanches rake the face on a regular basis.

It has been attempted many times, and only a few make it back down alive to tell the tale.

Of course the opposite side of the peak is listed in Classic Climbs in North America.


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edge wrote:
You could always attempt the NW Face on Devil's Thumb. Then you wouldn't need return airfare...

Seriously, I think all flights into Alaska are through Seattle, and then via Alaska Air. What is your ultimate destination after Anchorage?

Devils Thumb NW Face. As yet, unclimbed.
[image]http://lh3.ggpht.com/_UoHpTkP-3ec/SfaasPOwBrI/AAAAAAAAPto/hmWJlaz_CEE/S5001698.JPG[/image]

[image]http://i.pbase.com/g3/20/434420/2/111975313.MQsWdciE.jpg[/image]

I've red tagged it. So I'd appreciate if you guys would stay off it for a while and give me some time to work it. I'll let you know when I'm done.


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kachoong wrote:
You may want to think about the volcano explosion first... don't you have to fly past that to get to Alaska?
Wasn't going to be going anywhere till July. The end location was going to be a certain well-known national park and a hill with an identity crisis. As is the exped is scrapped due to lack of funding. It was still very much in it's infancy anyways.
We have a new, closer, cheaper target. Actually, since they are closer and cheaper we have several of them, TBH I don't know why we didn't think of this first, it's just that magic number that drew us over, I guess.


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hugepedro wrote:
edge wrote:
You could always attempt the NW Face on Devil's Thumb. Then you wouldn't need return airfare...

Seriously, I think all flights into Alaska are through Seattle, and then via Alaska Air. What is your ultimate destination after Anchorage?

Devils Thumb NW Face. As yet, unclimbed.
[image]http://lh3.ggpht.com/_UoHpTkP-3ec/SfaasPOwBrI/AAAAAAAAPto/hmWJlaz_CEE/S5001698.JPG[/image]

[image]http://i.pbase.com/g3/20/434420/2/111975313.MQsWdciE.jpg[/image]

I've red tagged it. So I'd appreciate if you guys would stay off it for a while and give me some time to work it. I'll let you know when I'm done.

Sorry, Chris Sharma already reserved it for the next Dosage movie.


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onarunning wrote:
hugepedro wrote:
edge wrote:
You could always attempt the NW Face on Devil's Thumb. Then you wouldn't need return airfare...

Seriously, I think all flights into Alaska are through Seattle, and then via Alaska Air. What is your ultimate destination after Anchorage?

Devils Thumb NW Face. As yet, unclimbed.
[image]http://lh3.ggpht.com/_UoHpTkP-3ec/SfaasPOwBrI/AAAAAAAAPto/hmWJlaz_CEE/S5001698.JPG[/image]

[image]http://i.pbase.com/g3/20/434420/2/111975313.MQsWdciE.jpg[/image]

I've red tagged it. So I'd appreciate if you guys would stay off it for a while and give me some time to work it. I'll let you know when I'm done.

Sorry, Chris Sharma already reserved it for the next Dosage movie.

Well I'll defer to him, as long as he gets my draws back to me.

I actually gew up about 80 miles from the Thumb. Had I known it was going to be considered such a juicy prize today I woulda ticked it off along with the dozens of other FA's I got up there before the age of 16.


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sungam wrote:
kachoong wrote:
You may want to think about the volcano explosion first... don't you have to fly past that to get to Alaska?
Wasn't going to be going anywhere till July. The end location was going to be a certain well-known national park and a hill with an identity crisis. As is the exped is scrapped due to lack of funding. It was still very much in it's infancy anyways.
We have a new, closer, cheaper target. Actually, since they are closer and cheaper we have several of them, TBH I don't know why we didn't think of this first, it's just that magic number that drew us over, I guess.

What are you going to do now?


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johnwesely wrote:
sungam wrote:
kachoong wrote:
You may want to think about the volcano explosion first... don't you have to fly past that to get to Alaska?
Wasn't going to be going anywhere till July. The end location was going to be a certain well-known national park and a hill with an identity crisis. As is the exped is scrapped due to lack of funding. It was still very much in it's infancy anyways.
We have a new, closer, cheaper target. Actually, since they are closer and cheaper we have several of them, TBH I don't know why we didn't think of this first, it's just that magic number that drew us over, I guess.

What are you going to do now?
We'll see. We have limited funds, and only a month. And we want to be as far away from other people as possible. The options are still nearly limitless, though.


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sungam wrote:
johnwesely wrote:
sungam wrote:
kachoong wrote:
You may want to think about the volcano explosion first... don't you have to fly past that to get to Alaska?
Wasn't going to be going anywhere till July. The end location was going to be a certain well-known national park and a hill with an identity crisis. As is the exped is scrapped due to lack of funding. It was still very much in it's infancy anyways.
We have a new, closer, cheaper target. Actually, since they are closer and cheaper we have several of them, TBH I don't know why we didn't think of this first, it's just that magic number that drew us over, I guess.

What are you going to do now?
We'll see. We have limited funds, and only a month. And we want to be as far away from other people as possible. The options are still nearly limitless, though.

[ignorance] How far can you get away from people in Europe? [/ignorance]


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johnwesely wrote:
sungam wrote:
johnwesely wrote:
sungam wrote:
kachoong wrote:
You may want to think about the volcano explosion first... don't you have to fly past that to get to Alaska?
Wasn't going to be going anywhere till July. The end location was going to be a certain well-known national park and a hill with an identity crisis. As is the exped is scrapped due to lack of funding. It was still very much in it's infancy anyways.
We have a new, closer, cheaper target. Actually, since they are closer and cheaper we have several of them, TBH I don't know why we didn't think of this first, it's just that magic number that drew us over, I guess.

What are you going to do now?
We'll see. We have limited funds, and only a month. And we want to be as far away from other people as possible. The options are still nearly limitless, though.

[ignorance] How far can you get away from people in Europe? [/ignorance]

Australia, mate! They themselves have done it before.


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I wonder if anyone has shipped themselves in a box, freight, and made it alive that far. Probably not the best idea to save on transportation.


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I wonder if anyone has shipped themselves in a box, freight, and made it alive that far. Probably not the best idea to save on transportation.

If they put you on a plain you would die for sure because the cargo hold is not pressurized.


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johnwesely wrote:
sungam wrote:
kachoong wrote:
You may want to think about the volcano explosion first... don't you have to fly past that to get to Alaska?
Wasn't going to be going anywhere till July. The end location was going to be a certain well-known national park and a hill with an identity crisis. As is the exped is scrapped due to lack of funding. It was still very much in it's infancy anyways.
We have a new, closer, cheaper target. Actually, since they are closer and cheaper we have several of them, TBH I don't know why we didn't think of this first, it's just that magic number that drew us over, I guess.

What are you going to do now?

He figured Ibiza would be a tougher challenge.


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So I guess you either need a pressurized shipping box or go with ground.


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johnwesely wrote:
sungam wrote:
johnwesely wrote:
sungam wrote:
kachoong wrote:
You may want to think about the volcano explosion first... don't you have to fly past that to get to Alaska?
Wasn't going to be going anywhere till July. The end location was going to be a certain well-known national park and a hill with an identity crisis. As is the exped is scrapped due to lack of funding. It was still very much in it's infancy anyways.
We have a new, closer, cheaper target. Actually, since they are closer and cheaper we have several of them, TBH I don't know why we didn't think of this first, it's just that magic number that drew us over, I guess.

What are you going to do now?
We'll see. We have limited funds, and only a month. And we want to be as far away from other people as possible. The options are still nearly limitless, though.

[ignorance] How far can you get away from people in Europe? [/ignorance]
There are ways, dude. Europe is bigger then just Chamonix and the Dolomites. Though I'm hoping to go to the Dolomites as well this summer...


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If they put you on a plain you would die for sure because the cargo hold is not pressurized.

This is a myth - pets fly all the time in the cargo hold and survive.

I think there's more legroom down there too.


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lrossi wrote:
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If they put you on a plain you would die for sure because the cargo hold is not pressurized.

This is a myth - pets fly all the time in the cargo hold and survive.

I think there's more legroom down there too.

Some might be pressurized, but a guy died a month or two ago from stowing in the cargo hold. The article that reported it, said that a bunch of people have been doing it lately.


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johnwesely wrote:
lrossi wrote:
johnwesely wrote:
If they put you on a plain you would die for sure because the cargo hold is not pressurized.

This is a myth - pets fly all the time in the cargo hold and survive.

I think there's more legroom down there too.

Some might be pressurized, but a guy died a month or two ago from stowing in the cargo hold. The article that reported it, said that a bunch of people have been doing it lately.

Just bring some oxygen, then you can tick it as an 8,000 meter peak Cool


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johnwesely wrote:
lrossi wrote:
johnwesely wrote:
If they put you on a plain you would die for sure because the cargo hold is not pressurized.

This is a myth - pets fly all the time in the cargo hold and survive.

I think there's more legroom down there too.

Some might be pressurized, but a guy died a month or two ago from stowing in the cargo hold. The article that reported it, said that a bunch of people have been doing it lately.

The guy probably died for other reasons. They are pressurized, the outer skin is the pressure skin. Next time your flying watch them load baggage on a plane at the gate. The cargo doors have the same pressures seals as the passenger cabin doors. Years ago, DC-10s had a fault in the cargo door lock that caused one of them to blow off at altitude and depressurize the plane.

Also, it it weren't pressurized, your Axe hair gel and your tube of KY Warming Sensations jelly would come back spewed all over the inside of your luggage. How you gonna get the honeys when that happens?

Unless, a plane was built without a pressurized hold (I think maybe the Russian AN-12 is like that), but I can't imagine any such planes being in the fleets of the commercial carriers.

I might try this riding in the hold business though. I'm sure I could find better booze down there than they serve in the cabin. And free.


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hugepedro wrote:
johnwesely wrote:
lrossi wrote:
johnwesely wrote:
If they put you on a plain you would die for sure because the cargo hold is not pressurized.

This is a myth - pets fly all the time in the cargo hold and survive.

I think there's more legroom down there too.

Some might be pressurized, but a guy died a month or two ago from stowing in the cargo hold. The article that reported it, said that a bunch of people have been doing it lately.

The guy probably died for other reasons. They are pressurized, the outer skin is the pressure skin. Next time your flying watch them load baggage on a plane at the gate. The cargo doors have the same pressures seals as the passenger cabin doors. Years ago, DC-10s had a fault in the cargo door lock that caused one of them to blow off at altitude and depressurize the plane.

Also, it it weren't pressurized, your Axe hair gel and your tube of KY Warming Sensations jelly would come back spewed all over the inside of your luggage. How you gonna get the honeys when that happens?

Unless, a plane was built without a pressurized hold (I think maybe the Russian AN-12 is like that), but I can't imagine any such planes being in the fleets of the commercial carriers.

I might try this riding in the hold business though. I'm sure I could find better booze down there than they serve in the cabin. And free.

It might have been in a third world country. I don't really remember.

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