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800nate
Aug 18, 2010, 9:05 PM
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I'm new to rock climbing and am considering buying a used harness. Rock Empire is the brand and the model is Opium. Anyone know if this is a decent buy for $35? I wasn't able to find it on the Rock Empire website because it's not a current model.
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toyguy
Aug 18, 2010, 9:44 PM
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I don't claim to be an expert, or an overly seasoned climber, but my opinion of used gear is kinda like a used condom. Might work, might not.... I'm not going to be the one who finds out.
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patmay81
Aug 18, 2010, 9:47 PM
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you can buy a new harness for around 45 or 50, so no its not great. RE is not the best gear. I don't know anything about their soft goods, but if they are like their hard goods (cams specifically), I would be surprised if the harness sold for much of $35 brand new.
quick example:
http://www.rei.com/product/768095
its worth the extra $15 for the extra security. nylon/spectra breaks down, dont trust used soft goods.
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johnwesely
Aug 18, 2010, 10:59 PM
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800nate wrote: I'm new to rock climbing and am considering buying a used harness. Rock Empire is the brand and the model is Opium. Anyone know if this is a decent buy for $35? I wasn't able to find it on the Rock Empire website because it's not a current model.
I think I bought my first harness for 40 dollars at a sale. I can't imagine a world where a used Rock Empire harness would be worth 35 dollars, maybe in Zimbabwe.
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rtwilli4
Aug 18, 2010, 11:08 PM
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If you are new to climbing you shouldn't be buying anything used. The LAST thing you should buy used is a harness.
After you gain some experience then you can buy used... but until then stick w/ new stuff.
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majid_sabet
Aug 18, 2010, 11:09 PM
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toyguy wrote: I don't claim to be an expert, or an overly seasoned climber, but my opinion of used gear is kinda like a used condom. Might work, might not.... I'm not going to be the one who finds out.
I have a lot of use condom in my room
some 500 lbs of it
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Lbrombach
Aug 19, 2010, 2:24 AM
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Buy used shoes if you want, but not your harness. and buy shoes first if you can only afford one. If you leave the gym you're more likely to find someone with an extra harness that fits you than extra shoes that fit you. Also, if you find yourself solo the shoes are still useful for bouldering, while the harness is only good for for fondling on the couch wishing you could go climb something.
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TarHeelEMT
Aug 19, 2010, 3:15 AM
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Bad deal. Don't buy used unless you REALLY know what you're doing. Brand new Black Diamond harness for $40:
http://www.spadout.com/p/black-diamond-momentum-al-climbing-harness/
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ncrockclimber
Aug 19, 2010, 4:10 AM
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majid_sabet wrote: toyguy wrote: I don't claim to be an expert, or an overly seasoned climber, but my opinion of used gear is kinda like a used condom. Might work, might not.... I'm not going to be the one who finds out. I have a lot of use condom in my room some 500 lbs of it
Seriously, lay off the pipe Majid. 
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majid_sabet
Aug 19, 2010, 4:50 PM
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ncrockclimber wrote: majid_sabet wrote: toyguy wrote: I don't claim to be an expert, or an overly seasoned climber, but my opinion of used gear is kinda like a used condom. Might work, might not.... I'm not going to be the one who finds out. I have a lot of use condom in my room some 500 lbs of it Seriously, lay off the pipe Majid.
(This post was edited by majid_sabet on Aug 20, 2010, 12:57 AM)
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kennoyce
Aug 19, 2010, 5:13 PM
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$29.99 Camp Jasper
$29.99 Singing Rock Balance
No, it's not a good deal, I've never used a RE harness, but I'd be willing to bet that it is crap like most of their gear. You can buy better harnesses new for less money, and as has been said, you shouldn't be buying a used harness anyway.
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800nate
Aug 19, 2010, 5:38 PM
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So I ended up buying the harness and my main reason was because it was not really used. The guy i bought it from used it 2-3 times and it looks no different from one off the shelf. I also got tons of webbing, a chalk bag, a few locking carabiners, a few standard carabiners and 3 belay devices. I figured it was well worth the $50 I paid. Everything wasn't new from the store but this was definitely a guy that bought rock climbing gear then never used it.
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vegastradguy
Aug 19, 2010, 5:47 PM
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800nate wrote: So I ended up buying the harness and my main reason was because it was not really used. The guy i bought it from used it 2-3 times and it looks no different from one off the shelf. I also got tons of webbing, a chalk bag, a few locking carabiners, a few standard carabiners and 3 belay devices. I figured it was well worth the $50 I paid. Everything wasn't new from the store but this was definitely a guy that bought rock climbing gear then never used it.
as long as you feel comfortable and know exactly what sort of use the harness has seen, then you should be good to go.
generally, though, softgoods are the sort of thing that shouldnt be re-used, mostly because they wear out, have a definite life-span, and of course are susceptible to damage from chemicals (as well as sunlight) if not cared for properly.
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kennoyce
Aug 19, 2010, 6:05 PM
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That does sound like a good deal considering everything else you got with the harness. Like vegastradguy said though, just make sure that you are certain the harness (and other soft goods like webbing) have been stored properly and never come in contact with any chemicals.
Overall it sounds like you scored.
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ianmeister89
Aug 19, 2010, 11:33 PM
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800nate wrote: So I ended up buying the harness and my main reason was because it was not really used. The guy i bought it from used it 2-3 times and it looks no different from one off the shelf. I also got tons of webbing, a chalk bag, a few locking carabiners, a few standard carabiners and 3 belay devices. I figured it was well worth the $50 I paid. Everything wasn't new from the store but this was definitely a guy that bought rock climbing gear then never used it.
So he bought a bunch of gear and decided he didn't like climbing. Ok. Why would he have 3 belay devices, if he never even got into climbing in the first place?
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johnwesely
Aug 20, 2010, 12:08 AM
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ianmeister89 wrote: 800nate wrote: So I ended up buying the harness and my main reason was because it was not really used. The guy i bought it from used it 2-3 times and it looks no different from one off the shelf. I also got tons of webbing, a chalk bag, a few locking carabiners, a few standard carabiners and 3 belay devices. I figured it was well worth the $50 I paid. Everything wasn't new from the store but this was definitely a guy that bought rock climbing gear then never used it. So he bought a bunch of gear and decided he didn't like climbing. Ok. Why would he have 3 belay devices, if he never even got into climbing in the first place?
6 rope rappels.
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airscape
Aug 20, 2010, 6:45 PM
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majid_sabet wrote: toyguy wrote: I don't claim to be an expert, or an overly seasoned climber, but my opinion of used gear is kinda like a used condom. Might work, might not.... I'm not going to be the one who finds out. I have a lot of use condom in my room some 500 lbs of it
Come again?
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kachoong
Aug 20, 2010, 6:51 PM
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airscape wrote: majid_sabet wrote: toyguy wrote: I don't claim to be an expert, or an overly seasoned climber, but my opinion of used gear is kinda like a used condom. Might work, might not.... I'm not going to be the one who finds out. I have a lot of use condom in my room some 500 lbs of it Come again?
...and again... and again.... 500 times in fact.
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airscape
Aug 20, 2010, 7:00 PM
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kachoong wrote: airscape wrote: majid_sabet wrote: toyguy wrote: I don't claim to be an expert, or an overly seasoned climber, but my opinion of used gear is kinda like a used condom. Might work, might not.... I'm not going to be the one who finds out. I have a lot of use condom in my room some 500 lbs of it Come again? ...and again... and again.... 500 times in fact.
You have 1 lb condoms where you come from?
damn.
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kachoong
Aug 20, 2010, 7:09 PM
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airscape wrote: kachoong wrote: airscape wrote: majid_sabet wrote: toyguy wrote: I don't claim to be an expert, or an overly seasoned climber, but my opinion of used gear is kinda like a used condom. Might work, might not.... I'm not going to be the one who finds out. I have a lot of use condom in my room some 500 lbs of it Come again? ...and again... and again.... 500 times in fact. You have 1 lb condoms where you come from? damn.
Once their full, yeah!
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justroberto
Aug 20, 2010, 8:08 PM
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kachoong wrote: airscape wrote: kachoong wrote: airscape wrote: majid_sabet wrote: toyguy wrote: I don't claim to be an expert, or an overly seasoned climber, but my opinion of used gear is kinda like a used condom. Might work, might not.... I'm not going to be the one who finds out. I have a lot of use condom in my room some 500 lbs of it Come again? ...and again... and again.... 500 times in fact. You have 1 lb condoms where you come from? damn. Once their full, yeah!
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johnwesely
Aug 20, 2010, 9:40 PM
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justroberto wrote: kachoong wrote: airscape wrote: kachoong wrote: airscape wrote: majid_sabet wrote: toyguy wrote: I don't claim to be an expert, or an overly seasoned climber, but my opinion of used gear is kinda like a used condom. Might work, might not.... I'm not going to be the one who finds out. I have a lot of use condom in my room some 500 lbs of it Come again? ...and again... and again.... 500 times in fact. You have 1 lb condoms where you come from? damn. Once their full, yeah! I'm telling your lady...
She knows.
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davidbr
Aug 21, 2010, 10:23 AM
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Be careful buying used hardware as well. If you don't know its history, it could have been dropped, for example, and may not be 100% reliable.
There's another major problem with climbers buying used gear: If you don't know the person, there is a decent chance the stuff is stolen. Inevitably, climbing gear gets left in a lot of places (especially in cars, tents, and at the bases of climbs) for long periods. When we buy used gear from people we don't know, we help create the market for our own stolen kit.
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jaablink
Aug 21, 2010, 12:00 PM
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lol...Did those ever receive those used condoms I mailed you.
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majid_sabet
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jaablink wrote: lol...Did those ever receive those used condoms I mailed you.
I did and I am going to mail you few non condom gift .
MS
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