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koko
Jan 30, 2003, 5:18 PM
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what do you think of colored bolts like the ones metolius makes? are they too hard to find or are they good for access issues etc?
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woodse
Jan 30, 2003, 5:40 PM
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Obviously good for access issues if you're talking about the ones that "blend" with the rock, I'm not too sure about availability and price though...
woodsE
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koko
Jan 30, 2003, 5:44 PM
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yeah, i'm talking about the ones that blend into the rock. what i meant by hard to find is while you're climbing can you find them easily.
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woodse
Jan 30, 2003, 5:49 PM
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I've climbed probably 2-3 routes with the colored bolts and haven't had too much trouble as they were shorter routes, could be tougher on long routes....just need an accurate guide book!
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rprp
Jan 30, 2003, 9:56 PM
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They are good for sport area where access is or might become an issue.
I've done a couple of multi-pitch where I've set up less than ideal natural belay anchors and then while sitting there belaying up my second, finally noticed that there were a couple of the rock colored bolts right in front of my face.
So there are places I wouldn't use them. Try finding one on a 40 foot runout slab...
[ This Message was edited by: rprp on 2003-01-30 13:58 ]
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beyond_gravity
Jan 30, 2003, 10:05 PM
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There is no reason to use them high up where no one on the ground is going to see them.
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brianinslc
Jan 30, 2003, 10:32 PM
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I use colored anchors and recommend them for all routes.
Stainless hangers are not shiny like the zinc plated (esp Fixe's) so aren't too bad especially off the ground aways.
In some locations, folks are using them for target practise, so, even up high on a climb, best to have camo'd.
Fixe is selling the pre painted ones for a reasonable price now.
I paint my with a couple layers of primer, then a couple layers of topcoat. Also have found a texturing paint by Rust-o-leum that puts a camo surface on the bolt making them durn near impossible to see. I also paint the bolts heads, which, even though it chips off a bit when I hammer them in, still a mottled appearance that is difficult to see at any distance.
Shiney hangers are the ones non climbers will see most. Even an off color hanger helps. If folks are worried about being able to find them, use granite color on sandstone and vice versa. At a distance, still very hard to spot by the casual observer.
Painted chain and rapides are nice too!
Brian in SLC
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mountainmonkey
Jan 30, 2003, 10:47 PM
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an easy way to camoflage the hanger+bolt is to make a cardboard cutout for the hanger (each hanger is different depending on manufacturer) and to spray the hanger and bolt in one. grey auto primer is nice to start and the black tectured paint that brianinslc mentioned is a nice touch up. when in doubt, go darker; it will look like a shadow.
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mnicholas77
Jan 30, 2003, 10:59 PM
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They're definatley a good thing as far as access goes. You don't have to buy them colored, you can always paint them with some type of similar colored paint. An old trick...if you can find grill paint in the color you're looking for, paint it with the grill paint and them bake your hangers/cold shuts in the oven.
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