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number7
Jun 25, 2003, 7:30 PM
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What makes a rope "Dry" is the silicone coating they spray on the shealth during manufacturing. The water resistant spray you can buy almost anywhere is also a silicone spray. I was wondering if anyone has any info as to why you couldn't just buy a "non-dry" rope and spray it yourself. This could also solve the problem of Dry ropes losing their Dry quality after some use.
Any solid info would help.
Mike
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tobcapone
Jun 25, 2003, 7:36 PM
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I'm not sure if I would want to spray my own rope. Who knows what the chemicals would do to it and I would hate to find out 100 feet up.
I don't really care for dry ropes b/c they tend to get "fuzzy" much easier. If you're not doing alot of ice or high alpine climbing I wouldn't say it's worth it.
Also I have a Beal non-dry and a Sterling dry and the Beal non-dry stays drier than the Sterling when I sling it through the snow!
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petsfed
Jun 25, 2003, 7:55 PM
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Dry coatings usually go all over each strand of the sheath. For what its worth, if you really want to dry treat a rope, get the dry treatment wash stuff. You can find it somewhere on www.mgear.com (I don't really want to search right now).
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cricket
Jun 25, 2003, 8:30 PM
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I have also thought about this and wondered what I am going to do when my dry rope doesn't repel the water anymore. I have seen a product by Columbia Sportswear that wetproofs clothing/items in the washing machine. But again, do not know for sure on this...anyone else seen or used this?
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cricket
Jun 25, 2003, 8:32 PM
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I have also thought about this and wondered what I am going to do when my dry rope doesn't repel the water anymore. I have seen a product by Columbia Sportswear that wetproofs clothing/items in the washing machine. But again, do not know for sure on this...anyone else seen or used this?
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gene
Jun 25, 2003, 9:04 PM
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just a random word on dry-ropes ...... if you're going to buy one it's a good idea to buy one from a european manufacturer. The chemical that makes the rope "dry" has to be dissolved in a "carrier"-fluid in order to apply it to the rope fibers. Euro-companies use a nice light solvent that evaporates away nicely afterwards. The US Environmental Protection Agency says that the particular solvent is a No-No, so US companies must use a different solvent that does not evaporate away as well and leaves a nice waxy residue on the rope.
Does your rope tend to get dirty quickly and deposit that black rope-gack all over your hands while belaying???? Most likely rope is US-made dry-rope and the "gack" is the waxy residue (which collects/holds dirt nicely) coming off on your hands.
Of course, being a good american, I deal with the rope-gack and spend my bucks on US-ropes ....... gotta support the team ......
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pinkamy
Jun 26, 2003, 1:21 AM
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Try it on a small piece of rope and see what happens. :)
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gunkiemike
Jun 26, 2003, 1:32 AM
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There are products sold BY THE ROPE MANUFACTURERS for this exact purpose. OK maybe it's only for RE-coating a dry rope, and not trying to waterproof a regular rope. But why oh why would you use fabric silicone like Scotchgard or Nikwax when you don't know what these will do to your rope???
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smiley
Jun 26, 2003, 3:00 AM
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I didn't think these treatments lasted as long, but I suppose buying a new rope would be more expensive. Always worth a try..
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leec
Aug 29, 2003, 5:09 PM
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If you want the full skinny talk to Sterling tech support - these guys know what they are doing and have the best customer service and support going.
I've used their Arid Dry treatment and its a gem - easy to apply and amazing results. 11 out of 10.
Make sure you heat fix after you've dried it - but watch that tumble dryer carefully so's not to over heat your rope.
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