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tenn_dawg


Aug 19, 2003, 5:40 PM
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Aliens VS. Zeros (KO in the first round?)
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Okay, I tend to aviod asking "Gear Queer" questions such as these, but I need some responces with experience.

Who out there has climbed on both CCH Aliens, and the WC Zero's.

I'm not too interested in the smallest 2 sizes of the Zero's, but the bigger 3 that are comparable with the Yellow Green and Red Aliens. (I think)

I've climbed on Aliens, but never on the Zero's. In the store though, the Zero's feel like a real quality cam. I like the fully flexible stems, and the design of the cam head.

A couple of questions though.

Has the wider head width of the Zero's ever caused anyone to actually not be able to place in a placement where an alien would have worked?

The trigger wire system on the Zeros is kind of strange. The wires run through 2 "guides" then to the cam lobes. Has anyone noticed any bad points in this system? I imagine it may lead to broken guides, and fraying wires, but having not climbed on them, I can't tell.

And finally, anyone in the South East feel generious enough to loan me their Zero's for a couple of thin leads? I'd be glad to leave my entire rack at your disposal for whatever you needed it for. I'm quadruple thick in the hand/fist crack sizes.

Thanks guys,
Travis


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Aug 21, 2003, 2:19 AM
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I hate to do it, but I'm bumping this. I really am curious, and I've got the money to spend. If I wait much longer, I'll burn it all on booze and skanky women.

Travis


piton


Aug 21, 2003, 12:45 PM
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hey travis

i tried the blue zero cam out this past weekend. i think but not sure it is the same size of the blue alien. anyway i ended falling on the zero, problem is with the stem is real flexible which made the zero a challenge to get out. personally i like the aliens a little bit better.

good article on dynamic belay :)


nunyoboy


Aug 26, 2003, 7:18 PM
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the only real advantage the Zeros have over the Aliens besides being more flexible is that they dont lever out in a bottomed out placement. My Aliens seem to be holding up a little better than my Zeros.


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