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leadingedge
Feb 13, 2002, 11:33 AM
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Try a different shoe. If you have narrow feet then I recon Boreal Matrix.
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case22
Feb 14, 2002, 12:17 AM
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I wouldn't recommend the Matrix. It's almost too soft. One of my partners have them, and he doesn't hardly ever wear them because of how soft they are. It depends on what kind of climbing you do. Are you a beginner, intermediate, or advanced climber? I myself have a pair of Boreal Quetzals. They were a good beginning slipper shoe. They took awhile to break in, but they're finally soft now. However, my shoes of choice are my La Sportiva Meraks. They aren't too soft, but they're not too hard. Plus, they're good on all kinds of climbs.
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biff
Feb 14, 2002, 12:26 AM
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I have a pair of cliff (blue) and a pair of matrix.
I love both. I have a average-wide foot. the stiff sole and great heel fit make the cliff great for edging and heel hooking. The nice soft asymetric shape of the matrix make them great for pockets.
The heel on the matrix is not a good fit on my foot at all, there is almost a quarter inch of space between parts of my heel and the shoe. they are terrible for me when heel hooking on edges, but I don't care. their performance in pockets makes up for it.
as far as a change in design .. sorry I can't help you. but I have prety much average foot, size 10 maybe a bit wide, I have a pair of 8.5 cliff because they were tight, yet comphy in the store. I which I got the size 8, and endured the pain for the first few months, since they have streched a bit more than I expected.
hope that helps
[ This Message was edited by: biff on 2002-02-13 16:28 ]
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case22
Feb 15, 2002, 1:12 AM
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I really like the Meraks. The toe is really pointed, so it's great in pockets. It's pretty soft, but it's not so soft that it will get torn up. My friend doesn't wear his Matrix shoes at the gym because they would be torn up too fast. My other friend told me that they were rated the best shoes by a climbing magazine. I don't remember which one, but they rated a lot of gear, and they were at the top of the list.
Hope I helped you some!
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rastalizard
Feb 16, 2002, 1:08 PM
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I have had a pair of the new Cliff Blues for 6 months,my major problem is with the rubber.The rubber is tearing away from the shoe in places where one does not even apply pressure.In other words they don't handle wear and tear well and already need a resole .The fit is really good and they make a good multi-purpose shoe but I will never buy another pair.
Hope that helps
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