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grabngrip
Nov 12, 2003, 6:07 PM
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I want to g down to joshua tree soon. i've been asking arounf and people have been telling me that would be a good place to start climbing outdoors, since i've only done indoor climbing. so does anyone have tips on how to get the ball roling?
Daniel :)
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msiddens
Nov 12, 2003, 6:43 PM
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Daniel,
It's a KILLER place to climb but perhaps not the BEST place to teach yourself outdoor climbing. If you want to get the ball rolling, I'd reccomend getting a guide to show you the ropes:
http://www.vertical-adventures.com/guides/
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http://www.joshuatreerockclimbing.com/
Good luck!
MS
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addiroids
Nov 12, 2003, 7:14 PM
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I would not recommend Vertical Adventures because Bob Gaines (the owner) is a cocky sob who turned Tahquitz into a sport crag.
That being said, www.uprising.com is a gym in Palm Springs, and they have great guides. I would rec them and joshuatreerockclimbingschool.
TRADitionally yours,
Cali Dirtbag
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micronut
Nov 12, 2003, 7:20 PM
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don't pay, but go with someone who knows what's up. You'll have a much better time. I took my little brother out to J-Tree for 5 days a couple weeks ago, and we climbed 25+ routes of many star quality.
does anyone apprentice anymore?
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grabngrip
Nov 12, 2003, 7:22 PM
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thanks alot guys. i apreciate it
Daniel :)
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esoteric1
Nov 12, 2003, 7:56 PM
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lmao! whats bob up to these days? rap bolting?...and tahquits...a sport crag? dude, go sail a trad line if ya dont like face climbing, jesus
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xcire
Nov 12, 2003, 8:03 PM
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Do a search under my name and jtree. I have asked the same questions and there should be some good information for ya.
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jt512
Nov 12, 2003, 8:05 PM
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In reply to: I would not recommend Vertical Adventures because Bob Gaines (the owner) is a cocky sob who turned Tahquitz into a sport crag.
Pure BS. Vertical Adventures has a fine reputation, and its guides are among the most accomplished climbers in the country.
-Jay
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crazywacky
Nov 12, 2003, 8:24 PM
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Sorry guys, but I have to disagree with those of you who say that J-tree is not a good place to learn outdoor climbing.
I started climbing there in 1992. It was and is a great place to learn the sport. Bolted and "Trad" climbs alike in almost every grade. "Sporty" bolted climbs and well protected to freakishly ran out trad routes.
Take some draws, about 30 feet of webbing, and a 60 M rope and there are enough bolted climbs to keep you busy for a year.
Toss in a half dozen cams and a set of stoppers, and you have even more options.
Do get a guide book. It'll help you find climbs in the range you want, and keep you on the right trail for apporaches. Not that they're hard approaches. In fact, they're some of the easier ones I've seen.
Go out, have fun, and be safe.
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bishopclimber
Nov 12, 2003, 8:48 PM
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In reply to: I would not recommend Vertical Adventures because Bob Gaines (the owner) is a cocky sob who turned Tahquitz into a sport crag. Cali Dirtbag |
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antimatter
Nov 12, 2003, 8:56 PM
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In reply to: I would not recommend Vertical Adventures because Bob Gaines (the owner) is a cocky sob who turned Tahquitz into a sport crag. That being said, www.uprising.com is a gym in Palm Springs, and they have great guides. I would rec them and joshuatreerockclimbingschool. TRADitionally yours, Cali Dirtbag
I had a great experience with Veritcal Adventures a few years ago (Scott Cosgrove taught the class).
Bob seems nice enough but admittedly, I've never spent much time with him. As far as sport bolting goes, which lines are those?! I'm anxious to get off the "please God let me get to that next bolt 15 feet further up" routes.
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handcrack
Nov 12, 2003, 9:43 PM
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Let me add my vote of confidence to Bob Gaines. He's a good guy and runs a first-class operation.
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mungeclimber
Nov 12, 2003, 10:01 PM
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Indeed, for the little bit that I knew him, Bob and his outfit were good peeps.
Tahquitz a sport crag? Please provide an itemized list of routes to see if they meet the sport crag definition.
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esoteric1
Nov 13, 2003, 1:28 PM
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Hey adderoids, or hemeroids, whatever your name is,
the fact that you had to take a class says it all, ive been on alot of bob`s routes and i actualy search out his routes, the guy rocks as far as putting up routes. all the cracks have pretty much been climbed out there, so, wheres the next place to look? out on the faces of course, just cause you cant send desperate face lines doesnt make him a sport climber. eat your words, or ill feed them to ya.
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wallrat
Nov 14, 2003, 3:18 PM
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Flame wars are why this site has become such a bore to visit...please give the other posters the right to have their say, will you? Their opinions are at least as valid as yours.
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toejam
Nov 14, 2003, 6:34 PM
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I took a class with Vertical Adventures to jumpstart my trad leading. Clark Jacobs was the instructor and it was great. Met Bob on a climb there and he seemed a warm, friendly guy.
Tahquitz a sport crag? Hah!
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howdidshedothat
Nov 14, 2003, 6:56 PM
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I think you should hook up with someone who knows what's going on. Maybe take some basic classes like anchors. This should help to get things going. Down the road you can take some more advanced classes. The point to my blabbing is go with someone that has a lot of experience... 8)
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