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usmc_2tothetop
Jan 3, 2004, 4:21 PM
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Heaven and Hell both exist.
They exist only in our minds.
They say god knows and see's all.
They say god will forgive you for your sins.
And that, in the end you will be judged.
Well I have something to teach you.
Something to enlighten yourself to your own existence of thought.
GOD IS YOU.
God is our minds.
Knowing and seeing all because you never miss a second of your life.
And in the end you will be judged.
Judged by your own self.
And the question is can you forgive yourself for your sins.
Because in the end.....
A thought of question will enter the mind with its attempt of conclusion.
Did you create?
Did you become?
Did you contribute and learn?
And did you Love?
Or will you feel that irresolution of guilt and regret.
That you did not create.
You did not become.
You did not contribute nor learn.
And you did not Love.
That feeling that you cannot leave this place just yet.
But knowing you don't have a choice.
And at that very moment.
The end of what we call life.
Knowing your triumph or knowing your failure....
....will give you your heaven or hell.
~ Nathan J McBride
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usmc_2tothetop
Jan 3, 2004, 4:24 PM
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some people may object or disagree with my beliefs. But they are my beliefs and my opinions. At the same time I hold a high respect for other peoples opinions and beliefs. My ears and perception are always open to others. How else would I learn.
If any one has any poems please feel free to share them.
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cracklover
Jan 3, 2004, 5:00 PM
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Not altogether different than your outlook, but worth sharing, I think:
From The Marriage of Heaven and Hell, by William Blake. I know it's long, but there's a lot of wisdom there... at least read a bit.
In seed time learn, in harvest teach, in winter enjoy.
Drive your cart and your plow over the bones of the dead.
The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom.
Prudence is a rich ugly old maid courted by Incapacity.
He who desires but acts not, breeds pestilence.
The cut worm forgives the plow.
Dip him in the river who loves water.
A fool sees not the same tree that a wise man sees.
He whose face gives no light, shall never become a star.
Eternity is in love with the productions of time.
The busy bee has no time for sorrow.
The hours of folly are measur'd by the clock, but of wisdom: no clock can measure.
All wholsom food is caught without a net or a trap.
Bring out number weight & measure in a year of dearth.
No bird soars too high, if he soars with his own wings.
A dead body revenges not injuries.
The most sublime act is to set another before you.
If the fool would persist in his folly he would become wise.
Folly is the cloke of knavery.
Shame is Prides cloke.
Prisons are built with stones of Law, Brothels with bricks of Religion.
The pride of the peacock is the glory of God.
The lust of the goat is the bounty of God.
The wrath of the lion is the wisdom of God.
The nakedness of woman is the work of God.
Excess of sorrow laughs. Excess of joy weeps.
The roaring of lions, the howling of wolves, the raging of the stormy sea, and the destructive sword, are portions of eternity too great for the eye of man.
The fox condemns the trap, not himself.
Joys impregnate. Sorrows bring forth.
Let man wear the fell of the lion. woman the fleece of the sheep.
The bird a nest, the spider a web, man friendship.
The selfish smiling fool, & the sullen frowning fool shall be both thought wise, that they may be a rod.
What is now proved was once only imagin'd.
The rat, the mouse, the fox, the rabbet; watch the roots; the lion, the tyger, the horse, the elephant, watch the fruits.
The cistern contains: the fountain overflows.
One thought fills immensity.
Always be ready to speak your mind, and a base man will avoid you.
Every thing possible to be believ'd is an image of truth.
The eagle never lost so much time, as when he submitted to learn of the crow.
The fox provides for himself. but God provides for the lion.
Think in the morning. Act in the noon. Eat in the evening. Sleep in the night.
He who has suffer'd you to impose on him knows you.
As the plow follows words, so God rewards prayers.
The tygers of wrath are wiser than the horses of instruction.
Expect poison from the standing water.
You never know what is enough unless you know what is more than enough.
Listen to the fools reproach! it is a kingly title!
The eyes of fire, the nostrils of air, the mouth of water, the beard of earth.
The weak in courage is strong in cunning.
The apple tree never asks the beech how he shall grow; nor the lion, the horse, how he shall take his prey.
The thankful reciever bears a plentiful harvest.
If others bad not been foolish, we should be so.
The soul of sweet delight can never be defil'd.
When thou seest an Eagle, thou seest a portion of Genius. lift up thy head!
As the catterpiller chooses the fairest leaves to lay her eggs, so the priest lays his curse on the fairest joys.
To create a little flower is the labour of ages.
Damn braces: Bless relaxes.
The best wine is the oldest, the best water the newest.
Prayers plow not! Praises reap not!
Joys laugh not! Sorrows weep not!
The head Sublime, the heart Pathos, the genitals Beauty, the hands & feet Proportion.
As the air to a bird or the sea to a fish, so is contempt to the contemptible.
The crow wish'd every thing was black, the owl, that every thing was white.
Exuberance is Beauty.
If the lion was advised by the fox. he would be cunning.
Improvement makes strait roads, but the crooked roads without Improvement, are roads of Genius.
Sooner murder an infant in its cradle than nurse unacted desires.
Where man is not, nature is barren.
Truth can never be told so as to be understood, and not be believ'd.
Enough! or Too much.
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GO
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roughster
Jan 3, 2004, 5:01 PM
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roughster moved this thread from General to Community.
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usmc_2tothetop
Jan 3, 2004, 5:24 PM
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I like that one. Quite interesting
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shakylegs
Jan 3, 2004, 5:30 PM
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There once was a man from Nantucket...
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pehperboy
Jan 3, 2004, 7:15 PM
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Interesting timing as I just got a call from one of those stupid Christian ministries looking to bring me round to their ridiculous interpretations of scripture so they can in the end get at my money. Anyhow, I say, "if you're looking to talk to me about the Christina faith, I'm not interested.
"So you're not a Christian?" he responded.
"Well, not in the traditional sense."
At that point he wanted to hear more, but I declined not only because I know where that would lead (to a long, tedious, circular argument with no end as these people will disregard all logic to insist on their stupidity), but also because I did not want to even try to articulate my interpretation of the Gospels to someone whose had their mind made up on guilt, sin and restraint.
When I read the poem that's what I would have liked to have cited to this guy, as it is consistent with what I learned mainly through reading Blake. So when cracklover posted the proverbs of Hell, it made even more sense.
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rope_burn
Feb 13, 2004, 2:02 AM
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That heaven and hell poem is everything I have ever said but in a more articulate organized way. As of now it is my favorite poem and will probably try to commit it to memory so that I can run it off to all those people who don't understand. I will not try to take the credit though. Good job.
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maculated
Feb 13, 2004, 4:22 AM
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Blake kicks bootay. Yes he does. Even his criticism is good stuff.
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moeman
Feb 23, 2004, 3:38 AM
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Bump. This thread is required reading
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elkattio
Feb 23, 2004, 4:40 AM
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like you said ... you have the right to believe that ...
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