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reprieve
Feb 25, 2004, 9:58 PM
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I am beginning to get serious about outdoor sport climbing, so I need to start getting my own gear. How many draws are generally needed for sport? Obviously I would need at least 8 - would I need more? 10? 12? How many do you guys take to the crag for sport climbing?
yah yah, noobclimbing.com...everybody's got to start some time.
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vegastradguy
Feb 25, 2004, 10:01 PM
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a dozen is a good start. 10 for the route, 2 for anchor.
if you climb in an area where the routes have a ton of bolts, count the # of bolts on the longest route and add 2 for anchor.
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overlord
Feb 25, 2004, 10:05 PM
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depends on the are in question.
i would go for 12 since having too many is never a problem.
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reprieve
Feb 25, 2004, 10:06 PM
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yeah, good point. I guess I also should have specified that I'm looking to gear-up for single-pitch only. Is there an established "maximum" number of bolts on a single-pitch line?
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caughtinside
Feb 25, 2004, 10:07 PM
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try to look at a guide for the areas you'll be going to most. They'll usually tell you how many draws you need, in addition to the number of bolts on each climb.
But yeah, having too many is never a problem. 20+ draws can be helpful if you're going to be working more than one line at a time.
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antigrav
Feb 25, 2004, 10:30 PM
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A route at a local crag has 17 (or is it 18...) bolts... Guess what the name of the route is... Yup, it's called "Bolt Junkie". That's the max number for one pitch I've seen...
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tahoe_rock_master
Feb 25, 2004, 10:33 PM
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It would be a good idea to have about 12 or 13. I take 13 and that is enough 95% of the time. If you do really well protected, or really long routes 18+ would not be a bad idea
Also, check the guidebook for where you will be climbing most of the time. That will give you a good idea. You could also ask other climbers in your area how many they carry.
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reprieve
Feb 25, 2004, 10:42 PM
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In reply to: You could also ask other climbers in your area how many they carry.
Yeah, that's probably going to be the best way to get the most precise answer.
Thanks for the good feedback.
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overlord
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In reply to: yeah, good point. I guess I also should have specified that I'm looking to gear-up for single-pitch only. Is there an established "maximum" number of bolts on a single-pitch line?
ost single pitches have 10 draws or less, but i have climbed one with 14.
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tedc
Feb 25, 2004, 11:04 PM
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200' route. Bolt every 6'. 2 for anchors. I think you need 35 draws. Oh, and another rope to rap down.
BTW, I have a rope and some draws for sale. :wink:
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hosh
Feb 25, 2004, 11:41 PM
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Depends on how many bolts. I've got 8 draws and I've never needed more.
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sbclimber
Feb 26, 2004, 12:20 AM
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climbed a route with 19 (or was it 20) bolts at Red Rocks in Black Velvet Canyon. waaayyy too many bolts
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reprieve
Feb 26, 2004, 1:02 AM
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In reply to: BTW, I have a rope and some draws for sale. :wink:
What kind, how many, and how much?
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b_fost
Mar 6, 2004, 3:55 AM
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In reply to: In reply to: BTW, I have a rope and some draws for sale. :wink: What kind, how many, and how much?
I think he's kidding :wink:
but yeah, I would ask the locals how many they carry/ have. good luck!
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rokklym
Mar 6, 2004, 4:02 AM
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I'd say 20 is a good amount to have. You don't want to spot a great route and not have enough draws to do it. I'd say a nice mix of long and short draws is good to have. plus a couple of them on 24" runners doubled up is good to have too. Rope drag is bad thing!
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bittersweet_climbing
Mar 6, 2004, 4:10 AM
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12 would be a good start. Sport climbs are 100' max, usually. Most are around 60 or 70. Even on a 100' climb, that is one clip per 10'. If the bolts are really close, you can skip some. I think I have 12, and haven't needed more, yet. I am sure you could use your friends if you need more, assuming you are climbing with him.
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berkov
Mar 6, 2004, 4:21 AM
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I wouldn't get more than 12 to start out I have never needed more if a single pitch route has more than that it is over bolted or you are climbing a staircase with lots of ledges to land on whenever I have done long routes and it looks like I will run short I wait untill i am safe from hitting the ground and enough rope out for a small fall factor and I will go every other bolt or what ever I feel comfortable running out on for multipitch you should be climbing with someone with experience and if they do they will have gear too
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