|
crap
Apr 19, 2002, 10:27 PM
Post #1 of 15
(2932 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Jan 25, 2002
Posts: 491
|
A bunch of people posted that they were really happy with their Rock Empire Robot cams when they got them a few months ago. After climbing on them for a while are you still happy with them? How are they holding up?
|
|
|
|
|
fo_d
Apr 19, 2002, 11:33 PM
Post #2 of 15
(2932 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Nov 4, 2001
Posts: 918
|
I have only used mine a few times and I have not fallen on any of them yet, but sofar I still like them, they handle well, the triggers are smooth.
Les
|
|
|
|
|
natec
Apr 20, 2002, 1:02 AM
Post #3 of 15
(2932 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Dec 13, 2001
Posts: 667
|
Ok,
I really like the cams. Haven't fallen on one yet. One complaint, even when used with a long sling, THEY WALK LIKE A MOTHER. Still nice to have as a second set. Take a look into the Trango flex cams. For only $10 more a cam, they are way better.
|
|
|
|
|
andy_lemon
Apr 20, 2002, 1:26 AM
Post #4 of 15
(2932 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Sep 7, 2001
Posts: 3335
|
I still like my robot cams! The lobs are close together... but they aren't much different than Metolius cams as was pointed out to me today.
|
|
|
|
|
fo_d
Apr 20, 2002, 2:16 AM
Post #5 of 15
(2932 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Nov 4, 2001
Posts: 918
|
I bought the #10 Metolious, Climbing mag said they dont walk, but it did a little. I'm wondering if the camolots are the only cams that really dont walk. My only info on the Trango's is from a review in climbing mag and one guy I talked to at REI, he didnt like them. I cant remember exactly what the reveiw said but I think they walk also.
I think what it all comes down to is the robot is good starter cam and good for suplimenting your current rack (thats my beginers opinion). They seem like a lot of cam for the money, I wont worry about adding camolots untill I start climbing harder stuff but I'll probly always have robots in my rack.
Les
|
|
|
|
|
johnhenry
Apr 20, 2002, 7:28 AM
Post #6 of 15
(2932 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Feb 28, 2002
Posts: 202
|
I still think there great! I have abused two sets and fallen on the smallest one. The bigger ones are prone to wobble but in many places (like the desert) the best type of cam in the world is the one that is still on your rack.
As for someones questions about if all cams walk, I would have said yes until I saw the new cams from Splitter Gear. Because these cams are directly opposite one another, rather than staggered like all other types, then they may not walk at all.
It is a great time to be a climber because older design cams are becoming affordable and new innovations, such as Splitter Gear cams and Ball and Spoon cams, are changing the Game altogether!
|
|
|
|
|
rutherford
Apr 22, 2002, 5:56 PM
Post #7 of 15
(2932 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Apr 12, 2002
Posts: 12
|
snip "...and Ball and Spoon cams, are changing the Game altogether!..." snip
Ball and Spoon cams??
please expound...
[ This Message was edited by: rutherford on 2002-04-22 10:56 ]
|
|
|
|
|
quart
Apr 22, 2002, 6:07 PM
Post #8 of 15
(2932 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Jan 23, 2002
Posts: 22
|
After close to a year of heavy use they're still nearly perfect. The smallest three have needed a couple of clean/lube jobs and the biggest one does have a walking issue but aside from that they've been great.
|
|
|
|
|
fo_d
Apr 22, 2002, 7:23 PM
Post #9 of 15
(2932 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Nov 4, 2001
Posts: 918
|
rutherford, I think he is refering to "Ball nuts",a spring loaded chock thingy.
Les
|
|
|
|
|
sezumpf
Apr 22, 2002, 8:32 PM
Post #10 of 15
(2932 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Mar 28, 2000
Posts: 23
|
I have heard from a couple of people that Aliens are great Cams and don't have any issues with walking. Anyone else hear different?
|
|
|
|
|
joemor
Apr 23, 2002, 12:22 AM
Post #11 of 15
(2932 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Dec 3, 2001
Posts: 609
|
the topics robot cams, there not made by alien.
joe
[ This Message was edited by: joemor on 2002-04-22 17:23 ]
|
|
|
|
|
johnhenry
Apr 23, 2002, 5:31 AM
Post #12 of 15
(2932 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Feb 28, 2002
Posts: 202
|
Hey all. Above my reference to "ball and spoon cams" is the generic term, such as active camming devices, used for cams which are placed is drilled holes.
Like the use of the word "friends" for all cams, most people use the company term "removable bolts" though they are much close to cams than bolts.
Simply put, if more F.A. were put up using them, then we would see a bluring between sport climbing and trad.. For aid they make rivets obsolete, there are great for ground up F.A.'s, etc. etc.
They are as revolutionary as Robot cams are cheap and reliable.
Rock on, John
|
|
|
|
|
kyhangdog
Aug 22, 2002, 3:05 PM
Post #13 of 15
(2932 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Oct 4, 2001
Posts: 480
|
Try the Clogs.... they're cheap, strong, and awesome. No cam stops, but I climbed for years without cam stops (Wired Bliss) and never had a problem.
|
|
|
|
|
coach
Aug 22, 2002, 3:12 PM
Post #14 of 15
(2932 views)
Shortcut
Registered: May 11, 2001
Posts: 3348
|
Been using my Robots for a little over a year with no problems. There is some walking with the larger sizes but slings reduces that problem. Have only taken one fall and they held without a problem. Can't complain at all thus far. Great price too!
Climb On
|
|
|
|
|
arlen
Aug 22, 2002, 10:44 PM
Post #15 of 15
(2932 views)
Shortcut
Registered: May 3, 2001
Posts: 127
|
Actually, the fact that any U-stem cam is liable to walk makes me like the Robots more, because I'd be out less if it walked into a fixed position. So far I've found them easier to nudge, twist or yank out of stuck placements than Camalots, which are a gritty bummer when they're overcammed.
I notice that DMM advertises their U-stem units' close center cams as a feature that reduces walking by pivoting. I haven't noticed that to be desirable, but I'm usually above the cam when it's going on.
If I had it to do again, I'd go with the single-stem units from Acme. And I definitely won't double up on my Robots--the range is too narrow. But you can't have mine if that's why you're asking
|
|
|
|
|
|
