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Should I carry a knife while climbing? I keep one in my backpack but not on my rack. If so, what knife do you recommend? I've had a great Buck knife since someone threw it during a riot and it hit me. Should I drill a hole in it and attach a lanyard?


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Make sure you get something that stays the hell closed.. had someone's drop out of their pocked from about 10 feet up on a route while i was belaying them and hit me in the shoulder.. luckily it stayed closed but did pop open when it hit the ground.. coulda been ugly/painful


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Get the petzl one, the small one with serrated blade. It has a hole for a biner.


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coulda been ugly/painful

thats why i don't see use in carrying them on the rack..more harm than good..only use is for rescue.....or carving the route name in a tree or something


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only use is for rescue.....or carving the route name in a tree or something

It is stuff like this that gets on my nerves. Have some respect for the wilderness.


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I really like my Buck "whittaker metro":
http://www.buckknives.com/catalog/detail/154/230.

Its really small, light, sturdy, and sharp.

I like that you can clip a 'biner directly into the handle-no lanyard to break.

Also, you can easily open it with one hand.

Oh, and its cheap (~$20)


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Should I carry a knife while climbing?

What kind of climbing are you doing? If all you're doing are bolted climbs and thus probably not in a position where you need/want to cut anything, then I wouldn't see the need to carry a knife while actually on route.

On the other hand, if you find yourself building anchors w/ webbing or cutting down old ratty ones, you may find that a knife comes in handy.

Personally, since I'm a bit of a knife knut, I almost always have my Benchmade 705 in my pocket when I climb, but the only time that I really need it is for anchor management. I always keep a spare in my pack as well, just in case.

Cheers,

Mark


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only use is for rescue.....or carving the route name in a tree or something

It is stuff like this that gets on my nerves. Have some respect for the wilderness.

joke friend..calm down there eh?


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Chris O'Donnell used a knife in Vertical Limit, and I carry one, but I've only used it to pry open cans of beer when I've cut my fingernails too short.


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somethig thats light, sharp and you can open osing one hand only.


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Which was the movie were the dad cut himself free to save the 2 kids?


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only use is for rescue.....or carving the route name in a tree or something

It is stuff like this that gets on my nerves. Have some respect for the wilderness.

joke friend..calm down there eh?

And you call that trolling? Sheesh. You are supposed to post a follow up about how you read carving names in trees helped birds eat the bugs in the bark, and that this was good for the tree.


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Spyderco Dragonfly:
http://www.discountknivesonline.com/images/C28SBK.jpg


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only use is for rescue.....or carving the route name in a tree or something

It is stuff like this that gets on my nerves. Have some respect for the wilderness.

joke friend..calm down there eh?

And you call that trolling? Sheesh. You are supposed to post a follow up about how you read carving names in trees helped birds eat the bugs in the bark, and that this was good for the tree.
shhhh!, don't stay that out loud!, people like masterjuggler aren't ready to hear such things! a time will come but thats not today...


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I always carry a knife as a form of backup - say if I need to cut a sling in half and am willing to do so, or say part of a shirt gets hopelessly stuck in a belay device.

One handed is certainly a very very strong plus. Having one that has a half serated blade is another because webbing and such is a PITA to cut with a straight blade since it's cut resistant.

Light weight and the ability to clip it where it won't fall is good too.

The knife I got (GerberAR 3.5 BBS Product Number 5871)
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http://www.gerberblades.com/...products/5871_lg.gif

You can either use the metal clip on it - which holdes exceptionally well, or it has a hole you can thread accessory cord through and clip on your harness. It's not too heavy, not too big, but has a blade suitable for most any typical knife duty. Fast opening, extremely sharp, cuts better than most high dollar technical knives I've used and it can usually be found for under $30.


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I only carry a knife when I am on multipitch trad routes. I have used it for cutting off excess/worn rappel slings and for cutting my cordalette in half when retreating so that I wouldn't have to leave it all behind. There could be other uses as well, I think its a good idea on multipitch. I also recommend a partly serrated blade.


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Fourteen inch cleaver.
You never know when someone is gonna piss you off!!!


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thats why i don't see use in carrying them on the rack..more harm than good..only use is for rescue.....

That's the thing about emergencies, you just never know when you're going to have one. As others have said, for multipitch routes knives have their place. I carry a knife, tibloc, 2 rap rings and 20' of supertape on an emergency biner on every multipitch route.

If you carry a knife, it is very important to secure it. In my experience, leaving it clipped in your pocket is insufficient. Clip it to a biner directly or with cord. Make sure it opens easily when you want it to, but not when you don't.

mark


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I carry the very small and flat Gerber Ridge on a lanyard, along with a tiny LED flashlight because you never know...

The Ridge is 19.95 at Lowes. The serrated edge really makes a fast cut of webbing or rope.

http://www.gerberblades.com/...products/5898_lg.gif


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The small orange Petzl knife. Carry it (and some webbing) on multi-pitch.


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The first thing I do whenever I purchase a new harness is sew a strip of 1 inch webbing to it in a vertical position. By leaving the 'top' of the webbing open I can slide a small knife in there and it is always available for emergencies.


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Get the petzl one, the small one with serrated blade. It has a hole for a biner.

The only disadvantage to the petzl one is it feels cheap and plasticy, and it has to be opened with two hands all the time, no flicking it out.

I have a short ascent by Buck. Its a great knife and has a biner hole built in no cordlet, and it doubles as a bottle opener.


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I have a big strong locker which goes up with me every time, on it:
-Two prussik loops for emergency use (different one used to back up raps)
-Photon microlight3
-Couple of quicklinks
-Spyedrco Rescue Jr.
Light, stays closed but can be opened w/one hand, even gloved, serrated edge makes cutting webbing, rope, cord whatever a breeze. The sheepsfootpoint makes it a lot safer, pretty damn hard to poke through yourself or your gear without the sharp tip...

Edit to add: a nice length of dut tape goes on my helmet, ot on those rare ocassions I dont wear one, it goes around the spine of the biner.

$.02
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One should always have a knife. ;) Better yet, carry five or six, and you'll always have a perfect one for the job!

I used to carry a schrade S10 on climbs with me. It's as thin as two pieces of sheet metal placed together, and light enough to be just barely weighable, and holds an edge magically. But sadly, it's not as durable as it should be. Mine broke. Now I have to choose one of my other knives. :(

The schrade S10 is on the right edge in that pic, fourth one up from the bottom. I would definately recommend that knife, but really, any knife will do.

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