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dxmetal
Jul 27, 2004, 9:51 PM
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for general mountaineering in the lower 48 during late fall/winter and early spring, which is preferable ??? Advantage / disadvantages ??
thanks
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atg200
Jul 27, 2004, 9:59 PM
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i use both.
i like sunglasses 80% of the time. goggles are really nice if you start getting blasted by strong winds and spindrift.
skiing down is much nicer than downclimbing, and goggles are great for that.
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sspssp
Jul 27, 2004, 11:35 PM
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In warmer conditions, I had too many problems with googles fogging up (even when using anti-fogging products), but other people seem not to have this problem.
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dxmetal
Jul 28, 2004, 4:06 PM
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what color lens on the goggle ?? amber orange or the usual dark colors ??
I know amber orange or yelllow lens are great for overcast sky but in the mountains ???
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overlord
Jul 28, 2004, 4:11 PM
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if its sunny, get dark lenses.
even better if you get some where you can change them (i have some from scott, i use them for DH (with my helmet)).
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sharpie
Jul 28, 2004, 5:10 PM
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Have you checked out Panoptx (http://www.panoptx.com/)? They seem like they might be a good solution...
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anykineclimb
Jul 28, 2004, 5:34 PM
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The only problem with these glass/ goggle hybrid(Panoptx, wiley-x) is you would still have issues with fogging. In Sunglass mode, the lenses still seal around the eyes even if you try to wear them "loose" Great dry dry , very cold areas, but not for summer mountaineering.
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dxmetal
Jul 28, 2004, 6:31 PM
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should we shell out the extra $$ for polarized lenses ?? i know polarized is useful for boaters due to reflection from the sea/river. What about for the mountains ??
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thegreytradster
Jul 28, 2004, 7:46 PM
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See if you can get these from your local welding supply shop with a medium green lens. All the UV and IR protection you need to 14k ft.
Good side glare protection, (wire side shields only) don't fog up, (except when you first put them on if cold), rugged as hell, so ugly as to be their own fashion statement and inexpensive compared to designer sunglasses.
http://www.aosafetysrx.com/frames/shieldsbc.htm
As for polarized, No! most polarized lenses are not dark enough to provide enough UV protection.
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sspssp
Jul 28, 2004, 9:00 PM
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In reply to: The only problem with these glass/ goggle hybrid(Panoptx, wiley-x) is you would still have issues with fogging. In Sunglass mode, the lenses still seal around the eyes even if you try to wear them "loose" Great dry dry , very cold areas, but not for summer mountaineering.
Yep, that was my experience. I got prescription wiley-x. It was an expensive mistake.
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helmut
Jul 30, 2004, 3:35 PM
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I too like to carry both, I generally wear my sunglasses all the time unless the sun hasn't come out yet, then I don't wear them. Once the sun starts to come out, I put my sunglasses on. If it's starts to get really windy with blowing snow and snow starts to get inside of my sunglasses I take my sunglasses of and put my goggles on. By chance if the wind begins to subside, I will remove my goggles and put my sunglasses back on. Repeat until darkness descends.
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oregonalpine
Aug 6, 2004, 4:37 AM
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Carrying both is the only way to go in my mind... otherwise you'll be dealing with spindrift and no goggles or sweaty and fogged up, which is very unpleasant. Drop the extra cash and carry the few ounces, its well worth it.
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drake
Aug 7, 2004, 12:56 AM
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I like my sunglasses dark. Your basic wrap around Oakley type.
I carry goggles because if you end up in gusting/blowing wind and snow, sunglasses will not keep the snow out. If it is cold enough, your eyes tear up and blur your vision. Even colder & windier, the fluid on your eyes can freeze. Spindrift can make life tough. You can't move if you can't see.
Panoptics don't work because they have a single lens. You need a double lens to "reduce" fogging. All goggles and glasses can fog. Goggles do it less.
Another thought is that goggles can keep you from getting snow blind if you lose or break your glasses.
I wore my goggles on my summit day on Denali. The wind chill made it 50 below zero.
Drake
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