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subtle
Dec 20, 2004, 8:08 PM
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It’s time to settle this once and for all. The Trad vs. Boulderer Wars have gone on long enough, and at too great a cost. Too many lives have been lost, too many futures ruined, and too much valuable pr0n surfing time squandered. Trad Climbers, think of all of the ham sandwiches you’ve had to skip and all of the pointless excess finger strength you’ve developed sitting in front of your keyboard (in a Bob Seger T-shirt) feverishly trying to come up with spicy variants on the term “arrogant young punks”. Boulderers, wouldn’t you rather be back on your parent’s couch, playing the X-Box version of DynoMechaCrimpPimp - Xtreme Rock Dudez and…thinking…errr, well…playing that video game? With a realllly big slurpee?
I know you would.
If this were Athens, we would no doubt debate the relative merits in front of the Senate, and then the citizens of the republic would decide. If this were Mad Max III, we’d all pile into the ThunderDome and finish it. If this were 1700’s France, we’d duel…although tricams and bubba brushes at 20 paces would be a little anti-climactic. If this were West Side Story, we’d have a righteous dance-off in the streets. Ahhhh…nothing like a good dance-off…
…umm, where was I?
So, what to do? Citizens, what say you?
Homard!
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dingus
Dec 20, 2004, 8:12 PM
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Kill them. Kill them all.
DMT
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ebelay
Dec 20, 2004, 8:17 PM
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If this were rockclimbing.com, I'd say this horse has been beaten, killed, dug back up, kicked around and buried again thousands of times.....wait this IS rc.com, so I'm going to say what everybody is thinking.....STFU!
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subtle
Dec 20, 2004, 8:23 PM
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Nah, I don't think you know what everybody is thinking.
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euroford
Dec 20, 2004, 8:30 PM
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i think he had me right on.
and i wasn't really aware of a trad vs. boulderer war.
bouldering is kinda like wacking off. it may be fun, and we all do it every now and than (some times lots), but its sure not the real thing.
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grimpiperx
Dec 20, 2004, 8:33 PM
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I say segregation!We have a TradClimbing.com and a BoulderGripper.com. We segregate the states there so there would be Trad states and Boulder states. The ownership of the state would be done by a game of rock-paper-siccors between Boulderers and Tradclimbers. The Sportclimbers could range free in the boulderer's land bolting the shit out of anything to high to highball. But if you were in a Trad state you could only wear non-MadRock lace ups and you would be stoned with stoppers if you brought a bouldering pad into a trad state. If you were in a bouldering state any gear that can take a KN and is made of metal would be baned. If you were caught with such gear they would grind you up and turn your body into SuperChalk. Trad climbers would not have listen to noisy boulderes everywhere taking over the planet and quibling over grades. And the boulderer's would stop getting beat up by old-people with lots of gear. Your computer would tell the websites where the user is logging on from so that would decide which website you would be sent to. But in this way people who wished could still do both, they would just have to go to the next state to climb in a different style. Oh and Aid climbers can get Florida.......
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j_ung
Dec 20, 2004, 8:41 PM
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Well sure, it's been hashed and rehashed, but never in such a heartwarming, irreverent way. I think all of us trad cllimbers should-- Oh, wait, I boulder sometimes. OK, I think all of us boulderers should-- Hold on, I climb trad, too. Well maybe we could band together and go get those sport-- crap. Those damn dirty aid-- fuck! Those soloists-- SHIT!
I am my own enemy.
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grimpiperx
Dec 20, 2004, 8:41 PM
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In reply to: If this were rockclimbing.com, I'd say this horse has been beaten, killed, dug back up, kicked around and buried again thousands of times.....wait this IS rc.com, so I'm going to say what everybody is thinking.....STFU!
Hey Leave Subtle alone! :twisted: He is being funny as are all of his posts that I have seen. He is not trying to incite something because he acurately makes fun of both sides.
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keinangst
Dec 20, 2004, 8:43 PM
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Trad and bouldering are the only true forms of rock climbing. Used in combination, a "trad boulderer" can outclimb every other style.
/keep the flames alive
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j_ung
Dec 20, 2004, 8:46 PM
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In reply to: Trad and bouldering are the only true forms of rock climbing. Used in combination, a "trad boulderer" can outclimb every other style. /keep the flames alive
Could we call it... trolldering? :wink:
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ikefromla
Dec 20, 2004, 8:49 PM
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:deadhorse: oh wait, let me do it again :deadhorse: and again :deadhorse: yeah. that's about right.
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curt
Dec 20, 2004, 8:51 PM
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In reply to: Trad and bouldering are the only true forms of rock climbing. Used in combination, a "trad boulderer" can outclimb every other style.
Yeah, what he said. Now on the other hand, those worthless sport climbers...... :lol:
Curt
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cyanamid
Dec 20, 2004, 8:58 PM
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:boring:
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bandidopeco
Dec 20, 2004, 9:01 PM
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hmm,
Maybe we should form a truce by proclaiming that Ron Kauk be king and ruler off all. Who better to lead us then the author of Astroman, thriller and Midnight Lightning? It should be a consideration that both styles saw there growth occur in the same place by the same people.
I mean come on. Why is this still being discussed. With the danger of grinding equine bones to dust isn't discussing this like (quoting a recent metaphor) debating the various pros and cons between missionary and doggy style?
From now on all simmiler threads should come with this caveat:
*I can't/am to weak to go climbing so I need to argue about nothing.
Lastly I would like to quote a route name from Cave Rock:
Shut the feck up and climb!!!
ps, anyone down for the Owen's River Gorge on Wed?
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toejam
Dec 20, 2004, 9:03 PM
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Simple solution. Bolt all the cracks and highball problems.
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napoleon_in_rags
Dec 20, 2004, 9:07 PM
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In reply to: In reply to: Trad and bouldering are the only true forms of rock climbing. Used in combination, a "trad boulderer" can outclimb every other style. Yeah, what he said. Now on the other hand, those worthless sport climbers...... :lol: Curt
Be careful what you say. Whichever side that can lure sport climbers into an alliance will win the war.
On one hand Trad and Sport both use ropes.
On the other, the bolt/ no bolt debate is as fierce as the abortion debate.
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tradboulderer
Dec 20, 2004, 9:15 PM
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I just wanted to let everyone know that I own this sh___y, ironic, paradoxical, internally conflicted, schizophrenic, incongruous name. Guess who I am and win a cookie. BTW, this name is for sale. Any bidders?
-Post written sans thesaurus in the true hardman fashion. Keep it real.
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subtle
Dec 20, 2004, 9:20 PM
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Well, obviously, you're the chosen one...
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irockclimbtoo
Dec 21, 2004, 12:50 AM
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paige
Dec 21, 2004, 12:59 AM
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Does anyone love the TRer's? We want to be part of your war... Oh forget it! We will just go to Florida with the Aid Climbers.
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cjstudent
Dec 21, 2004, 1:00 AM
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In reply to: I just wanted to let everyone know that I own this sh___y, ironic, paradoxical, internally conflicted, schizophrenic, incongruous name. Guess who I am and win a cookie. BTW, this name is for sale. Any bidders? -Post written sans thesaurus in the true hardman fashion. Keep it real.
lol, with that username, this guy is just ASKING for nasty private messages calling him a hypotcrite!! how can you win in any thread with that user name?
wonder if boltclippingtradguy is available.
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grimpiperx
Dec 21, 2004, 1:12 AM
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In reply to: Does anyone love the TRer's? We want to be part of your war... Oh forget it! We will just go to Florida with the Aid Climbers.
Finnaly someone says something about my post :roll: Sorry you TopRopers are confined to the gyms, a gym in any state though, with in that gym you can practice whatever form of climbing you like though which is I guess a little boost.
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p_grandbois
Dec 21, 2004, 1:17 AM
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If you look at this rationally their is really only one problem, those damn bolts, and the idiots that put them on cracks, or on highball problems. Let's just channel all that anger towards the morons who do this.
oh yah and :deadhorse:
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angry
Dec 21, 2004, 2:21 AM
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Where does all this hate come from, I love everyone. Except spurt climbers, and teenagers, or white people with dreds, and fat people are icky. Oh I almost forgot about those goobers in the camo pants.
Like I said, I love everyone, lets all get along.
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shear_strength
Dec 21, 2004, 2:41 AM
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Who ever wanks the hardest looses the war.
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