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jt512
Jan 29, 2005, 2:15 AM
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In reply to: In reply to: now STFU n00b! You're right having climbed the better part of 10 years....onsighting .12a sport....and i've NEVER worked a route....onsighting 5.10+ trad....having climbed 10 walls...
On behalf of Ike: STFU, intermediate!
-Jay
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ikefromla
Jan 29, 2005, 2:38 AM
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Thanks Jay.
Josh: i see you take the "STFU n00b" joke really well, i'll be sure to rock it again in the future. I don't care what you've done, as you obviously missed the entire point of my post. the work i put into my climbing is hardly able to be considered lazy. but then again, why the fuck should i defend myself and my pursuits in the sport? you're just some internet happy spraylord who knows nothing about me personally or where i want to go with my climbing. I don't care what you've done, and i'm not about to get into a pissing match by sayin "well i sent this route in so many tries and this one at this crag in so many tries" or whatever.
peace out douche nozzle
PS. flamer can suck it
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flamer
Jan 29, 2005, 5:46 AM
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In reply to: Thanks Jay. Josh: i see you take the "STFU n00b" joke really well, i'll be sure to rock it again in the future. I don't care what you've done, as you obviously missed the entire point of my post. the work i put into my climbing is hardly able to be considered lazy. but then again, why the f--- should i defend myself and my pursuits in the sport? you're just some internet happy spraylord who knows nothing about me personally or where i want to go with my climbing. I don't care what you've done, and i'm not about to get into a pissing match by sayin "well i sent this route in so many tries and this one at this crag in so many tries" or whatever. peace out douche nozzle PS. i'm not only a sporto, and my major goals are much more serious than any of the s--- you've done, just for reference, big guy.
HaHa!! Your "major goals" Put up or shut up...what you plan to do vs. what I've done are 2 entirely different things!! And by the way do you know what I've done? In whiny little kid voice..."My GOALS are way harder than your's!!"
Wow this is great fun!! I'm laughing my ass off!!
josh
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flamer
Jan 29, 2005, 5:48 AM
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duplicate....
josh
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benpullin
Jan 29, 2005, 5:53 AM
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Anyway....
People shouldn't steal perfectly good biners from a sport anchor. People shouldn't steal perfectly good rap rings from a trad rap anchor.
If you do, you're a selfish loser. Think about the next guy/girl.
I have many friends who devote countless hours and dollars bolting, cleaning, and equipping routes. The least people can do to acknowledge this effort is keep their hands to themselves and their own gear.
Feel free to clean any biners left from the ground to the chains. Those are up for grabs. Climb long enough, and you'll have a shoebox full of 'em.
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bandycoot
Jan 29, 2005, 6:04 AM
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Flamer's a jerk. I've got chains (plural) of biners I've found that no one would consider having been stolen. If he's been climbing that long, he has no use for the biners that he finds at a sport anchor like that, than to do a disservice to the climbing community. I still want to know the major difference between a quicklink and a carabiner Flamer.
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flamer
Jan 29, 2005, 6:16 AM
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In reply to: Flamer's a jerk. I've got chains (plural) of biners I've found that no one would consider having been stolen. If he's been climbing that long, he has no use for the biners that he finds at a sport anchor like that, than to do a disservice to the climbing community. I still want to know the major difference between a quicklink and a carabiner Flamer.
Truth is I don't usually take stuff ever....except nasty old webbing that isn't doing anyone any good(and looks even worse) and gear "stuck" in cracks. HELL!! I don't even take booty that much any more cause I don't want some peice of crap somebody left in the rock....with some minor exception's.
The difference between a carabiner and and quicklink is this....a carabiner has a spring loaded gate, a quick link has a screw gate and isn't actually a peice of climbing gear. :D
And a QL is always safer then someone leaving a biner that they wouldn't trust their life on......as was stated.
You know the thing that really piss's me off about this thread??
The "rock art" thing....I mean really...what was someone thinking???
josh
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I'll be in RR again this spring....wanna hook up and climb??
josh
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kman
Jan 29, 2005, 6:47 AM
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In reply to: PS. i'm not only a sporto, and my major goals are much more serious than any of the s--- you've done, just for reference, big guy.
You call him a spray lord and then you go on to say that your goals are much bigger than any of the s--- he has done. :lol: :lol: Sounds like you have some spray in you too. Mines bigger than yours :lol:
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ikefromla
Jan 29, 2005, 8:17 AM
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well i guess i could always say what they are... oh wait, no. in fact, fuck all that.
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ikefromla
Jan 29, 2005, 8:26 AM
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In reply to: HaHa!! Your "major goals" Put up or shut up...what you plan to do vs. what I've done are 2 entirely different things!! And by the way do you know what I've done? In whiny little kid voice..."My GOALS are way harder than your's!!" this is great fun!! I'm laughing my ass off!! |
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bandycoot
Jan 29, 2005, 8:43 AM
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In reply to: I'll be in RR again this spring....wanna hook up and climb??
Sure! Only no sport crags... :lol:
I thought you were flaming, just wanted to call you on it.
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one900johnnyk
Jan 29, 2005, 2:53 PM
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In reply to: because its sandstone. water softens the rock- alot. climbing after a heavy rain can do two things: 1) compromise protection (including bolts) and 2) destroy the rock and thus destroy a beautiful route. so in other words, climb after a rain and you risk not only breaking holds and falling, but theres also a much smaller chance that those bolts will actually stay in the rock (or cams, nuts, etc). so, you can end up dead and destroy the rock at the same time.
you mean it's desert sandstone.. come to TN it's as hard as granite almost... but anyway am i to take away from this assessment of the bolts that they are not glue-ins? which i would imagine have less of an issue with that., although i'm not certain since i've never climbed on the stuff.
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flamer
Jan 29, 2005, 3:11 PM
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In reply to: In reply to: I'll be in RR again this spring....wanna hook up and climb?? Sure! Only no sport crags... :lol: I thought you were flaming, just wanted to call you on it.
Sport crags are a last resort anyway!!
And you are right I was flaming and getting carried away with it....even to the point that i started saying things I don't really believe or do....sometimes I forget to think before I open my mouth(or tap the keys)....anyway March in RR...resolution arete?
And Ike....dude I'm hurt! I do hope our path's cross...I'm always up for meeting and climbing with new partners, especially motivated ones.
This internet shit is just that....shit.
josh
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reno
Jan 29, 2005, 3:44 PM
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Wow.... ya ask a question, and see what happens.
Why can't folks debate the issues without resorting to personal attacks?
Josh/Flamer is a pal, a heck of a climber, and someone I'd trust without hesitation.... even if he is a hose monkey. ;)
And I agree with him: the "rock art" issue is far more problematic than a single carabiner.... or two... or a whole rack.
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vegastradguy
Jan 29, 2005, 4:09 PM
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sorry, desert sandstone.
theres a few glue ins around here and there, but regardless, because you are face climbing alot of the time, you shouldnt be on it after a rain, even if the bolts are glue-ins, because the holds can still break.
anyway, i'm just passing along local ethic- i'm actually suprised that many folks dont know to stay off the rock after a rain....
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aimeerose
Jan 30, 2005, 4:27 AM
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I, too, am most worried about the "rock art". It really is offensive and ugly and never goes away. The stuff at Tsunami wall most surely was done by climbers or their children since there is no reason for anyone else to hike up there. It really is horrible.
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hello_heino
Jan 30, 2005, 4:30 AM
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What about rock art from people hundreds of years ago? Though we cherish the wonderful pictographs also found all over Red Rock, perhaps they too were considered unsightly and arrogant when first created.
Chill out, baby.
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ikefromla
Jan 31, 2005, 3:24 AM
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i'm sorry to have flipped out, but if i had met someone in person with that little respect for other pursuits in climbing, i woulda been pissed. i suspect that most of us would be. peace out.
ike
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ikefromla
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In reply to: And Ike....dude I'm hurt! I do hope our path's cross...I'm always up for meeting and climbing with new partners, especially motivated ones. This internet s--- is just that....s---. |
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