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hammerhead
Feb 9, 2005, 3:54 PM
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Hi, So we're putting the Christmas decorations up in the attic that has access through the garage. I'm perched at the very top of a 6' ladder and my wife is trying to hand me the big storage bins of decoration. We'll I can see right off that this isn't going to work. So I take a look around the attic and notice some 2x4 that are nailed across the main joists. So, I put on my harness, grap a few slings and biners, climb up the ladder and looped a sling around one of the 2x4's and extended it with another and clipped it to my harness. I had just enough slack that I could bend over and grab boxes from my wife and still have enough security that if I took a fall it would be about 6 inches. Al
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mccarthykm
Feb 9, 2005, 4:06 PM
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I've done tree trimming while using my stuff for protection. My brother belayed, I used a ladder to get into the branches and would girth the trunk with slings as I moved throughout the tree trimming dead and broken branches.
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sustainedclimber
Feb 9, 2005, 4:52 PM
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My dad recently signed up to have satellite TV installed and the installation guy said he needed to get on the roof of the house at the peak and walk around up there. Our roof happens to be a 60 degree angle on each side and so is rather dangerous to walk around on. My dad has asked me to make something safe that the guy could use in order to go about his business. I am having difficulty coming up with an idea mostly because what I know to be safe will probably not be trusted by the installation guy. If anyone has any ideas, I'm all ears. -Josh
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greenmachineman7
Feb 9, 2005, 5:01 PM
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how bout a ladder?
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mccarthykm
Feb 9, 2005, 5:04 PM
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throw some bolts in the roof and give the guy a pair of crampons. or if your dad's into less destructive things you can do what roofers do and hammer in small sections of 2X4's to use like a ladder. If you are really intent on using climbing gear and if you have a chimney nearby, use the chimney as an anchor in combination with the 2X4's
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usmc_2tothetop
Feb 9, 2005, 5:09 PM
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MSR Stove for obvious reasons Mountaineering ace makes a great back itcher. Rope...again for obvious reasons. When the kids are in bed :wink:
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montafoner
Feb 9, 2005, 5:25 PM
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I did the same as mccarthykm. I actually daisy chained myself around the tree and set up a toprope with pulley to lower the limbs down so that they wouldn't land on the powerlines, roof or neighbor's car. A few years back we needed to tow our old car to the mechanic. Instead of paying for a tow truck, we took a couple of old carabiners and some old 7mm cord and connected the cars. Luckily the rope was elastic enough not to jolt the car too much. I "drove" the dead car and not having power steering or power brakes was an adventure I will not volunteer for again.
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quickclips
Feb 9, 2005, 5:27 PM
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I've used my stuff for lots of things. My brother is rebuilding an old truck so when we needed to get the cab off, I set up a pulley system w/ a gri gri. My old climbing rope is now used as a haul line for the old canoe I use as a sled. I like the sling in the attic idea.
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walrus
Feb 9, 2005, 6:02 PM
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I ran rope from one chimney on one side of the roof to a chimney on the other side. I attached another rope and ascender to this rope and used it as a movable anchor.
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montafoner
Feb 9, 2005, 6:11 PM
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Oh, I would be careful slinging a chimney top. They are not designed for a sideways pull (no rebar). It's similar to slinging sandstone. Lest you fall off the roof and pull the chimney with you...ouch.
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wjca
Feb 9, 2005, 7:30 PM
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sustainedclimber, Make sure the satellite company knows that you have a dangerous roof to crawl aroung on, then let them figure out how to get on to and walk around it. It is their job and they are taking the risk. If you rig up something and the guy falls off anyway, find a lawyer.
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slacklinejoe
Feb 9, 2005, 7:36 PM
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For the Sat guy: anchor to a car parked on the opposite side of the house, throw the rope up and over, pad the edges. No sweat. Actually though, the guy is most likely very used to it and won't need anything at all. I would offer to rig it for him, but most likely he'd refuse anyway. I know when working on roofs for construction we got very confident at it after a while and it wasn't much of a cause for concern. If they are working off a ladder, then there's nothing at all to worry about.
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slacklinejoe
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For the Sat guy: anchor to a car parked on the opposite side of the house, throw the rope up and over, pad the edges. No sweat.
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phatcat
Feb 9, 2005, 7:49 PM
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i cleaned my parents roof over the summer. its a "typical" roof, not too steep, and strait, but has a 3 story drop on one side, and i had to clean the gutters. my dad had installed two huge eye bolts on either end of the crest of the roof. i used an old rope and tied it between the two bolts. next, i clipped an old locker to the rope, and tied a static line to that locker. this static line was then attached to me, so as i walked up and down the roof, the biner would slide along the rope tied across the roof. the biner got a bit scraped up, but it wasnt a big deal. So how did i attach myself? i used a ti-block. i probably should of backed it up with a prussik, or just used a prussik instead. anyway, this allowed me to adjust the length of the line, so i could be as close to the edge as i needed to be, and still have slack. when i was right on the edge i had the system somewhat tight, and a little weight on it. if i slipped, i wasn't going anywhere.
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ebonezercabbage
Feb 9, 2005, 7:56 PM
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Being a roofer in the summer, ihave gotten fairly comfortable with all kinds of roofs, from flat roofs, to rubber roofs, walk roofs (40 degree or less pitch), and jack roofs (higher than 40) which is what you have. But being comfortable with it only means that we take steps to ensure the saftey of what we do. A jack roof is called that for a simle reason, you put roof "jacks" and planks down to have a stable surface to walk on. Your cable guy should know this already, or at least will when he comes to give you an estimate. He will (should) to your door with the necessary equipment for your high pitch roof, if he doesn't, i would ask myself how much experience this guy actually has, and think about asking for a different guy. It might mean waiting a little longer for your cable, but you don't want to have to deal with the hassle of an injury (even though it wouldn't be your fault). But remember, they may not jack your roof. I work in the removal of and laying down of roofs, not adding onto. On occasion i have done repairs on these kinds of roofs in which i wouldn't lay down planks because i'll only be up there for a short time, they may think the same.
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jimfix
Feb 9, 2005, 8:04 PM
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A 3/8' eye bolt into you bedroom ceiling joist and you can have no end of fun with you harness and ropes :wink: A number 10 wired hex is great for tenderising meat/ disagreeable children. But I'll never forget one year we had a @!$% of a land lord, so we had a "we'll never get our bond back party" and practiced dry tooling traverses on the dry wall.
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sustainedclimber
Feb 9, 2005, 10:38 PM
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In reply to: throw some bolts in the roof and give the guy a pair of crampons. Brilliant!! I'll mention it to him. I believe that the company should be in charge of figuring out a way to get up there and do their thing. This way, no sweat off my back if they screw up hardcore. To add to the conversation, I have in the recent past made use of climbing gear in order to belay my dad out of a window to check things on the side of the house. Works like a charm! -Josh
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sigep_rockstar
Feb 10, 2005, 12:37 AM
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got bored one day and went rappelling off of the second floor stair railing
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iltripp
Feb 10, 2005, 12:53 AM
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When I lived in a dorm, my roomate kept walking in on me with a girl, so we went to the TV lounge and I used some slings to put enough tension on the door to keep it from opening.
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respect_rock
Feb 10, 2005, 12:59 AM
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just hung up a hammock with some old climbing rope. I've been meaning to get it up for a while and the rope was just sitting in the garage so it worked out well.
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In reply to: I've been meaning to get it up for a while unlucky buddy, pills may be the way to go?
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horseonwheels
Feb 10, 2005, 1:52 AM
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Throw a rope over an exposed beam in your house + Figure 8 attached to a locking biner + Call your girlfriend over and get her in your harness = Home made sex swing
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tallnik
Feb 10, 2005, 2:08 AM
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Full body harness might make the above more comfortable... :twisted:
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niftydog
Feb 10, 2005, 2:14 AM
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In reply to: got bored one day and went rappelling off of the second floor stair railing I've been meaning to do that for ages at my local tech college. Four floors of stairwell with sturdy handrails and a clear drop... hammock kit for camping; two slings, two krabs, one short length of old Blue Water II. Adjustment curtesy of a clove hitch! - Self belay while cleaning gutters - Work positioning in large tree in front yard - Same old piece of blue water rope tied to a prying bar with a constrictor knot used to pull stumps - Long slings used as shoulder straps to transport mattresses and bases with ease - Same old piece of blue water rope and some omega steel krabs used to drag my old BMW out of the garage so it could be sold...
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