these are great shoes...sooo comfy! i have worn these things everywhere - which is probably a mistake - they have S1 sticky rubber on the soles which is awesome but since it is actually softer then C4 it isnt the best thing to be wearing in urban environments because it jsut wears quickly...but for backcountry approaches to the crag it is at home in the dirt, rock, grass etc. - again, like the other 5.10 approach shoes i have tried it is sooo comfy!!

like i said i wear these almost everyday but if i were paying 85$ (i got the last pair on sale), i would want them to be waterproof which these are not