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jt512


Aug 7, 2007, 9:35 PM

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Re: [lemon_boy] training with a weighted vest?
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lemon_boy wrote:
For the person who first asked the question about adding weight while climbing, here are several examples where I have used the tactic, or feel that it would have been beneficial.

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First example

I was working on a bolted sport route, about 90 feet tall with very sustained climbing up to a difficult rest at about 80 feet. Above that is sort of a boulder problem that takes you to a difficult anchor clip. I had tried the route quite a few times, and had the movements pretty wired. I was able to climb very quickly through the sustained part, and felt like I was climbing pretty well. When I first would get to the rest, I wasn’t really pumped, but after a few moments the pump would finally catch up and it was grim. I would milk the rest for about 15 minutes, which was kind of strenuous in its own way. Then, as I would tackle the last 10 feet, it felt like somebody had put a concrete block in my chalkbag. I absolutely could not clip the anchors, and would slither off every time.

Finally, I decided to do the route a couple times with an 11mm rope tied as a trail line to my haul loop. Right off the bat, on the middle section I could tell that I really needed to get forward on my feet a bit more. The rest spot became more strenuous, and the final boulder problem was brutal. After a few tries with the trail line, I was in the same boat as I was before. The following day, I ditched the trail line, and when I hit the rest spot I felt quite a bit better. The last section felt better, and I felt a lot more confident (which was key). I was finally able to clip the anchors.

It is unclear why you think that climbing with the extra 11 mm rope a couple times helped you send the route. I doubt that a couple of laps with an extra 8 lb caused you to gain significant strength for your next attempt. The fact that you had to get your weight more over your feet is logically because the rope moved your center of gravity posteriorly. This necessitated your having to shift your weight forward when climbing with the extra rope. This is an example of added weight necessitating a change in the way the movement is performed, precisely the deleterious effect that aerili warned us about.

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Second example

I had been doing quite a bit of crack cragging when a friend called and asked if I wanted to do a route on the diamond. The only problem was that he wanted to do it at the beginning of November. Immediately I realized that I was going to have to climb with a small pack to carry water, shoes to walk off, and extra clothes. So, for a couple weeks, I spent some time climbing steep cracks with a pack containing these sorts of items. I definitely feel this was beneficial. ...

So climbing with a pack on helped you climb with a pack on. This is - word for word - what aerili predicts.

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Third example

Similar to example 2.

Jay


(This post was edited by jt512 on Aug 7, 2007, 9:35 PM)



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