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Aug 2, 2009, 5:27 PM

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Re: [moose_droppings] First fall on gear
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ACJ wrote:
moose_droppings wrote:
ACJ wrote:
moose_droppings wrote:
ACJ wrote:
I go out and fall on gear a lot, as practice and when pushing my limits.

Keep it up. Won't be long before your another statistic, an unnecessary one at that.

Believe it or not, trad gear is made for catching falls. Crazy idea isn't it. People don't get hurt or become a statistic because they take falls, that happens all the time. They get hurt when they take falls in poor situations where they can hit the rock, gear pulls, or rock breaks. Just because you have an irrational fear doesn't mean that everyone who falls on gear is going to get hurt.

The only time I have EVER been hurt in a fall is sport climbing, a hold broke and I fell awkwardly into the rock, that all makes sense and is understandable.

With all the people out there climbing HARD trad, falling on routes over and over again pushing the limits why aren't we hearing about deaths left and right if it is so dangerous?

Have you got some unknown guarantees against whats bolded?
Take a clue from yourself.
Shit happens, why invite it.

Just as you have no guarantee that you wont slip and fall and die while toproping, I have none as well. I do have the ability to make a judgement as to when it's appropriate to climb into difficult terrain above my gear or down climb to my last piece. I also have the ability to make judgements on rock quality and how solid a placement is. If I am concerned I have the ability to back gear up, or, once again back down.

Falling is a part of climbing it happens to everyone. Even if you are toproping you fall. By taking control of the situation and learning more about rock, gear, and fall consequences you can engage those risks appropriately. Simply looking at falling on gear as a sooner or later you will die kind of situation is silly and fear based. I look at it as a learning opportunity and value the experience I gain along the way.

Not everyone should go out and just take whips all over the place on all their gear. If you are experienced and understand what is going on then it is your choice. I think it is incorrect however to say that falling is guaranteeing some kind of injury. That just breeds fear in an activity that can produce enough of it without the people who practice it adding fuel to the fire.

Your list I bolded is short other variables, but hey, you've got it all covered, right?Unsure

I never said falling is a guarantee of injury, hope your placement skills are better than your reading comprehension. Purposely hucking yourself onto gear is just increasing your odds at something that is inherently dangerous anyway. Saying that you rub elbows with Arnold isn't decreasing them either. Your other examples of risk taking are weak in comparison.

Just to make it clear to other n00bs like you that might read your post, purposely taken falls onto gear is flat out stupid.


Edited to say that the above post was deleted since it was just a duplicate of this one. Don't quite know how it happened.


(This post was edited by moose_droppings on Aug 5, 2009, 6:43 PM)



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