You miss understood, a begginer does not have refined over hang technique (see the part i bolded in your other post). For all they do have feet on the wall they are rarely using them properly.. and yes it does amount to something better described as pull ups than climbing.

You just don't seem to accept that a stronger climber has a better start to climbing when shown down the right path of tehcnique training. They can put in more miledge at the same level as the weaker climber to learn even more. They can also be taught certain techniques that genuinely require X amount of strength.

On the last part you are just being petty or again miss understood. For her to build upto 5 pull ups would be better described as strength training. That higher base of strength will allow a higher base of endurance to develop within climbing.

Allot of newer climbers also spend far greater time on easier angle terrain. The fingers and forearms get a better work out. Then when it comes to over hangs you may find (if you watch enough new climbers) that the leading reason for the fall wa upper body strength or even core. Having a greater base of upper strength eliminates it as the prodominent reason for failure (technique aside) and thus alows the fingers and for arms to develop under the greater weight inherent of steeper terain.

Now i sence again you will take the part i said ''technique aside'' out of context. Think logical, a person with lower strength and bad technique can not be in a better position than a person with higher strength and the same level of technique (can we assume the climbers are clones of the same so you cant take that road of avoidence).

If you assume fingers, forearms and technique are allways going to be the weakest and train you must.. don't complain when you realise your upper body and the likes of core become the real weakness.