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sparky13
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ok, so this is my first post, so bear with me.
i am 13 and climbing around a v4, v5, real rock and gym, and I'm working on about a 5.10 but i don't have ropes so i don't get around to top roping and stuff much. i have been climbing for a couple of years and i want to go far, you know, get good, but i don't know where to go from here. any ideas would be great.
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taydude
Oct 12, 2009, 3:31 AM
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Climb man! Keep climbing. Get some projects to keep you motivated. If you climb in the gym work yourself to death once in a while. I try to leave the gym absolutely exhausted and sore all over every once in a while. Make sure you rest and don't injure yourself.
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gunkiemike
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V4-V5 are in the 5.12 realm. Why are you still working 5.10?
Answer that and you will know what to work on. Yea, the old "train your weakness" approach.
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treebierd
Oct 13, 2009, 3:34 AM
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My first advice is always to go outdoors and climb... but it might be a little hard to get yourself outdoors whenever you want considering you have to depend on others to get you there. If you can boulder at a V4-V5 level and are having trouble with 5.10 then endurance is your limiting factor. Does your gym have many routes for you to climb? If so then focus on routes. However if your gym is predominately bouldering then you should focus on long pumpy problems. If you dont have long problems then just add a hard traverse at the beginning of a challenging problem that you have already sent.
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mleogrande
Oct 13, 2009, 4:03 AM
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To make continous progress just keep climbing hard. Keep it challenging and do many different moves and problems. Some days I focus on endurance and other days power. I train different grips likes slopers and crimps. Don't push results too fast, because you want to avoid injuries.
If you can climb V4/5 then you be onsighting 5.10. If this is not the case, then many you should analyze what you may be doing wrong. Remember, when climbing tall routes technique and energy conservation is key. Knowing how to rest and not overgrip are essential skills to sending a long sustained climb.
Good Luck
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el_layclimber
Oct 13, 2009, 5:15 AM
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sparky13 wrote: ok, so this is my first post, so bear with me. i am 13 and climbing around a v4, v5, real rock and gym, and I'm working on about a 5.10 but i don't have ropes so i don't get around to top roping and stuff much. i have been climbing for a couple of years and i want to go far, you know, get good, but i don't know where to go from here. any ideas would be great.
Have fun.
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jt512
Oct 13, 2009, 5:23 AM
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"Levle"? Are you fucking serious: "levle"?
Jay
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bennydh
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jt512 wrote: "Levle"? Are you serious: "levle"? Jay
If the OP isn't a troll, then he is 13, and he is serious. The F bomb and non-constructive retort were unnecessary, and you can be a better climbing ambassador to the youth that may trickle into these forums with serious questions.
Some of us noticed the spelling error, read that the OP is 13, and practiced some levle of restraint.
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sungam
Oct 13, 2009, 9:34 AM
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bennydh wrote: jt512 wrote: "Levle"? Are you serious: "levle"? Jay If the OP isn't a troll, then he is 13, and he is serious. The F bomb and non-constructive retort were unnecessary, and you can be a better climbing ambassador to the youth that may trickle into these forums with serious questions. Some of us noticed the spelling error, read that the OP is 13, and practiced some levle of restraint.
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sparky13
Oct 13, 2009, 1:46 PM
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thanks for all the input guys it was great and i'll work on it.
Truett
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shockabuku
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bennydh wrote: jt512 wrote: "Levle"? Are you serious: "levle"? Jay If the OP isn't a troll, then he is 13, and he is serious. The F bomb and non-constructive retort were unnecessary, and you can be a better climbing ambassador to the youth that may trickle into these forums with serious questions. Some of us noticed the spelling error, read that the OP is 13, and practiced some levle of restraint.
What does being 13 have to do with being able to spell "level" correctly?
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johnwesely
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shockabuku wrote: bennydh wrote: jt512 wrote: "Levle"? Are you serious: "levle"? Jay If the OP isn't a troll, then he is 13, and he is serious. The F bomb and non-constructive retort were unnecessary, and you can be a better climbing ambassador to the youth that may trickle into these forums with serious questions. Some of us noticed the spelling error, read that the OP is 13, and practiced some levle of restraint. What does being 13 have to do with being able to spell "level" correctly?
I don't know. I am pretty sure it is a 1st or 2nd grade spelling word.
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laurichj
Oct 13, 2009, 10:11 PM
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e and l are typed with different hands, if you type quickly it's easy to hit them in the wrong order.
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shockabuku
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Which is why you should proofread your posts before demonstrating your failings to the world.
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johnwesely
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I send all of my posts to my editor before I even think of hitting submit.
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sungam
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johnwesely wrote: I send all of my posts to my editor before I even think of hitting submit.
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sungam wrote: johnwesely wrote: I send all of my posts to my editor before I even think of hitting submit. He pays me handsomely for the work I do, as well.
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johnwesely
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hafilax wrote: sungam wrote: johnwesely wrote: I send all of my posts to my editor before I even think of hitting submit. He pays me handsomely for the work I do, as well. The editor or johnwesely? Is one of them a big tipper?
Don't mention tipping. He thinks he is getting a really good deal. I wouldn't want him to get any ideas.
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sungam
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hafilax wrote: sungam wrote: johnwesely wrote: I send all of my posts to my editor before I even think of hitting submit. He pays me handsomely for the work I do, as well. The editor or johnwesely? Is one of them a big tipper?
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sungam wrote: hafilax wrote: sungam wrote: johnwesely wrote: I send all of my posts to my editor before I even think of hitting submit. He pays me handsomely for the work I do, as well. The editor or johnwesely? Is one of them a big tipper? I was implying I was his editor.
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sungam
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hafilax wrote: sungam wrote: hafilax wrote: sungam wrote: johnwesely wrote: I send all of my posts to my editor before I even think of hitting submit. He pays me handsomely for the work I do, as well. The editor or johnwesely? Is one of them a big tipper? I was implying I was his editor. You were his editor or you are his editor. I'm really confused. What does his editor pay you for?
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sungam wrote: hafilax wrote: sungam wrote: hafilax wrote: sungam wrote: johnwesely wrote: I send all of my posts to my editor before I even think of hitting submit. He pays me handsomely for the work I do, as well. The editor or johnwesely? Is one of them a big tipper? I was implying I was his editor. You were his editor or you are his editor. I'm really confused. What does his editor pay you for? I am his editor. He pays me a pretzl quickdraw a month.
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ryanb
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jt512 wrote: "Levle"? Are you fucking serious: "levle"? Jay
Fun fact:
There is no official body governing english spelling. Languages like German and French and have been subject to reform and standardization as the official languages of their respective countries but english hasn't. As such, english is a rich, constantly evolving, tapestry of dialects, creoles, slang and 1337sp34ks.
When some one corrects your spelling it just means they think, for no reason whatsoever, their educated-upper-class-dictated idiolect is better then yours.
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sungam
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ryanb wrote: jt512 wrote: "Levle"? Are you fucking serious: "levle"? Jay Fun fact: There is no official body governing english spelling. Languages like German and French and have been subject to reform and standardization as the official languages of their respective countries but english hasn't. As such, english is a rich, constantly evolving, tapestry of dialects, creoles, slang and 1337sp34ks. When some one corrects your spelling it just means they think, for no reason whatsoever, their educated-upper-class-dictated idiolect is better then yours.
You misspelled 13375p34k5, you fucking moron.
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ryanb wrote: When some one corrects your spelling it just means they think, for no reason whatsoever, their educated-upper-class-dictated idiolect is better then yours.
Isn't it?
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ryanb
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johnwesely wrote: ryanb wrote: When some one corrects your spelling it just means they think, for no reason whatsoever, their educated-upper-class-dictated idiolect is better then yours. Isn't it?
No.
English spelling is a set of hoops you jump through to signal you are a member of a certain social group "educated but not successful".
Unless you are trying to impress a librarian or an anal retentive it is not worth your time to worry about it too much, successful people recognize this.
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johnwesely
Oct 13, 2009, 11:13 PM
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ryanb wrote: johnwesely wrote: ryanb wrote: When some one corrects your spelling it just means they think, for no reason whatsoever, their educated-upper-class-dictated idiolect is better then yours. Isn't it? No. English spelling is a set of hoops you jump through to signal you are a member of a certain social group "educated but not successful". Unless you are trying to impress a librarian or an anal retentive it is not worth your time to worry about it too much, successful people recognize this.
No way. I thought God invented the English language, and the rules were completely set in stone. No wonder the language has changed over the years. It all makes sense now. I would rather be educated than successful, and writing poorly does not make you either.
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jt512
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ryanb wrote: johnwesely wrote: ryanb wrote: When some one corrects your spelling it just means they think, for no reason whatsoever, their educated-upper-class-dictated idiolect is better then yours. Isn't it? No. English spelling is a set of hoops you jump through to signal you are a member of a certain social group "educated but not successful".
That's a creative excuse.
Jay
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ryanb
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jt512 wrote: ryanb wrote: johnwesely wrote: ryanb wrote: When some one corrects your spelling it just means they think, for no reason whatsoever, their educated-upper-class-dictated idiolect is better then yours. Isn't it? No. English spelling is a set of hoops you jump through to signal you are a member of a certain social group "educated but not successful". That's a creative excuse. Jay
Thanks. I find posting original ideas to be worth while even if I rarely take the time to spell them perfectly.
You should try it some time.
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ryanb wrote: Thanks. I find posting original ideas to be worth while even if I rarely take the time to spell them perfectly. You should try it some time.
That is really the whole point of using a standard grammar. The more clear your writing is, the better the original ideas are communicated.
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johnwesely wrote: ryanb wrote: Thanks. I find posting original ideas to be worth while even if I rarely take the time to spell them perfectly. You should try it some time. That is really the whole point of using a standard grammar. The more clear your writing is, the better the original ideas are communicated.
Only if the language you are writing in is well suited to expressing those ideas.
allright, i am out ya'll, its been a fun thread.
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ryanb wrote: johnwesely wrote: ryanb wrote: Thanks. I find posting original ideas to be worth while even if I rarely take the time to spell them perfectly. You should try it some time. That is really the whole point of using a standard grammar. The more clear your writing is, the better the original ideas are communicated. allright, i am out ya'll, its been a fun thread.
I really don't think the Sapir Whorf Hypothesis is really related to this discussion. We are on an English language rock climbing forum. the standard language for the forum is English with some slang used by rock climbers. Confusing syntax and spelling will inhibit expressing those ideas to the average user.
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jt512
Oct 14, 2009, 1:23 AM
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ryanb wrote: jt512 wrote: ryanb wrote: johnwesely wrote: ryanb wrote: When some one corrects your spelling it just means they think, for no reason whatsoever, their educated-upper-class-dictated idiolect is better then yours. Isn't it? No. English spelling is a set of hoops you jump through to signal you are a member of a certain social group "educated but not successful". That's a creative excuse. Jay Thanks. I find posting original ideas to be worth while even if I rarely take the time to spell them perfectly.
Original bullshit is still bullshit.
Jay
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lol how bored are you fuckers!
In my experience the only really useful part of correcting a person's spelling on the internet is to incite nerd rage.
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sungam wrote: ryanb wrote: jt512 wrote: "Levle"? Are you fucking serious: "levle"? Jay Fun fact: There is no official body governing english spelling. Languages like German and French and have been subject to reform and standardization as the official languages of their respective countries but english hasn't. As such, english is a rich, constantly evolving, tapestry of dialects, creoles, slang and 1337sp34ks. When some one corrects your spelling it just means they think, for no reason whatsoever, their educated-upper-class-dictated idiolect is better then yours. You misspelled 13375p34k5
I don't know about that part^, but you got this part right on
sungam wrote: you fucking moron.
I suspect the kid's English teacher wouldn't agree with ryanb either.
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shockabuku wrote: I suspect the kid's English teacher wouldn't agree with ryanb either.
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