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billcoe_
Sep 26, 2005, 6:12 PM
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In reply to: In reply to: In reply to: Curt you have to be one of the biggest elitist assholes I have ever encountered on this site... Only "one of the biggest?" - s---, I'll have to try harder. :lol: Curt Don't worry Curt, your up there in my book! Cheers, Jim
Yeah Curt, some of your response to people sure are bordering on being downright mean. As far as being only one of the biggest, I suspect that the hapless scrotum has encountered JT earlier.
-as if on cue-
Hi Jt! :lol:
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jimdavis
Sep 26, 2005, 8:40 PM
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:lol:
Now I remember why I watch this thread!
I think I owe you a Thank You, Curt. This has been a fun thread (but I still dont like your technique).
Cheers,
Jim
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curt
Sep 26, 2005, 10:09 PM
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In reply to: :lol: Now I remember why I watch this thread! I think I owe you a Thank You, Curt. This has been a fun thread (but I still dont like your technique). Cheers, Jim
I know. It's kind of like a train wreck, isn't it? As bad as it is--you just can't look away. :lol:
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scotia
Sep 27, 2005, 5:20 AM
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I can't believe you are still talking about this! Jesus Curt GROW UP, do you honestly just start shit with people in forums to get a kick out of it? Is it confidence that you lack? You may consider me a nOOb but at least I have tried to come at you with some kind of intelligent response. I think it is hilarious that a 21 yr old can have more of an adult discussion than a guy your age. Top notch chief, top notch. I'll be sure to tell your kindergarten teacher to be sure that you actually nap during nap so wittle Curty doesn't get all cwanky.....
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curt
Sep 27, 2005, 3:02 PM
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In reply to: I can't believe you are still talking about this! Jesus Curt GROW UP, do you honestly just start s--- with people in forums to get a kick out of it? Is it confidence that you lack? You may consider me a nOOb but at least I have tried to come at you with some kind of intelligent response. I think it is hilarious that a 21 yr old can have more of an adult discussion than a guy your age. Top notch chief, top notch. I'll be sure to tell your kindergarten teacher to be sure that you actually nap during nap so wittle Curty doesn't get all cwanky.....
You keep telling me how immature my posts are in this thread, yet you haven't added one shred of useful content here. Furthermore, your climbing background and experience are so laughable that it's obvious you are in no position to comment intelligently on this belay technique--or anything else climbing related, for that matter. You better stay in the gym, n00b.
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scotia
Sep 27, 2005, 4:31 PM
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Simply put, your belay system has no backup. While it posseses enough friction to lock off the rope in the event of a fall there is no arrest point if the belayer were to be knocked off balance or would have to move in the event of a rockfall. While I have seen this belay used for glacier travel and sometimes alpine climbing, those systems do use an ice axe as a backup. Rope damage, more specifically to the sheath would be my concern based on your photo showing it running over a large stone/small boulder. There is an intelligent repsonse, now if you can please tell me any reasons that what I said is in any way wrong, I would love to know.
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curt
Sep 27, 2005, 5:08 PM
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In reply to: Simply put, your belay system has no backup. While it posseses enough friction to lock off the rope in the event of a fall there is no arrest point if the belayer were to be knocked off balance or would have to move in the event of a rockfall. While I have seen this belay used for glacier travel and sometimes alpine climbing, those systems do use an ice axe as a backup. Rope damage, more specifically to the sheath would be my concern based on your photo showing it running over a large stone/small boulder. There is an intelligent repsonse, now if you can please tell me any reasons that what I said is in any way wrong, I would love to know.
Well, a "waist belay" also has no back-up. The other issues you raised have also been addressed in this thread. As far as the sheath goes, this is a top-rope belay technique only--and I probably wouldn't be using my good lead rope for that anyway.
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scotia
Sep 27, 2005, 6:31 PM
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True a waist belay has no backup, but you can move in the event of a rockfall, the fact that the point of contact for your belay is what you need to move makes me feel very sketchy about it.
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jt512
Sep 27, 2005, 6:45 PM
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In reply to: True a waist belay has no backup, but you can move in the event of a rockfall...
You're supposed to be tied in when you belay.
And you call Curt's method unsafe. Sheesh.
-Jay
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scotia
Sep 28, 2005, 6:05 AM
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I simply meant that you have complete mobility of your legs and feet. You could move freely and still have the rope secure around yor waist. You could not do this with Curt's foot belay since you need your feet to move and there is a great chance that the rope could come loose during a sudden motion (such as having to quickly change position in the event of a rockfall).
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golsen
Sep 29, 2005, 9:25 PM
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hahaha....
cant belive this is still going on....
Curt, dude, lets go climbing! I will belay you with the wonderful foot belay you showed me how to do on the internet! hahaha.....
I want you to lead me up somethin worthwhile, where we can test that sucker out! I promise I will use all the techniques you told me were good!
And if that hardman Jay wants a bEElay I can do that too.....
Lets do sometin worthwhile so you guys can show me how good you are....I also really want to see how good that BEElay is.......
Oh yes, Curt says that some beers are mandatory for this beelay, so if I have to piss and am Beeelaying you and haev to stepp around thats cool Right????
sounds like fun all the way around.........
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fracture
Sep 30, 2005, 1:46 AM
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This thread should be made sticky.
Seriously.
:D
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curt
Sep 30, 2005, 2:34 AM
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In reply to: This thread should be made sticky. Seriously. :D
Why bother? It's never going away? :lol:
Curt
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tradrenn
Sep 30, 2005, 3:10 AM
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In reply to: Why bother? It's never going away? :lol: Curt
Not if we keep responding to it.
Doh
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billcoe_
Sep 30, 2005, 3:27 AM
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In reply to: In reply to: Why bother? It's never going away? :lol: Curt Not if we keep responding to it. Doh
No, I think Curt means that as long as he keeps reviving it. :lol:
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daithi
Sep 30, 2005, 11:29 AM
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In reply to: I think it is hilarious that a 21 yr old can have more of an adult discussion than a guy your age. Top notch chief, top notch. I'll be sure to tell your kindergarten teacher to be sure that you actually nap during nap so wittle Curty doesn't get all cwanky.....etc.
Give it up man! What do you hope to achieve with this? Do you honestly think curt will turn around and say, "Dude you're right, the foot belay was the worst idea ever. What was I thinking? When I thought of all the noobs out there plummeting to their death as their belayers were knocked off their feet, I just couldn't advocate the method any more. Oh and I totally respect your qualifications and your climbing abilities now." No chance, so why waste your breath (of the virtual kind)?
In reply to: [curt] do you honestly just start shit with people in forums to get a kick out of it?
Undoubtedly the answer is yes so why get so worked up about it. 8^)
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Sep 30, 2005, 2:33 PM
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What I learned from this thread is that Curt is a master baiter. :lol: We pretty much already knew this though.
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sweetchuck
Jun 29, 2006, 4:30 PM
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3 cheers for the foot bealy! :lol:
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Hey.....here is what I would be most concerned about this belay, what to do if you step in some bear shit with your right shoe and you are right footed?????????? I read an article that bear scat degrades your ropes!!!!!Please Curt, answer that one for me.............Frank
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from Page 1:
In reply to: Any bets on how long this one will last. :wink:
almost 2 years, 23 pages and counting! :!:
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