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bmaurice
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In reply to: Tendons are not like muscles in that they do not get stronger as they are used and as they wear. tendons defiently get stronger if you train them right and allow for adiquite healing time. if your just starting try geting a bunch of printer paper and crumpiling it up as tight as you can one by one, try using all your digits. sounds dumb but after a couple minutes you will already start to feel a burn.
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agdavis
May 20, 2009, 3:00 PM
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bmaurice wrote: In reply to: Tendons are not like muscles in that they do not get stronger as they are used and as they wear. tendons defiently get stronger if you train them right and allow for adiquite healing time. if your just starting try geting a bunch of printer paper and crumpiling it up as tight as you can one by one, try using all your digits. sounds dumb but after a couple minutes you will already start to feel a burn. preferably scrap printer paper
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OliverBlow
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Yes, they do get stronger as you use them, but not in the same way muscles do. With a muscle you essentialy break part of it, and every time it grows back it grows back stronger. With tendonds you are trying to get them stronger by stretching them out, using them and pulling on them. If you break part of one then you could permenently damage yourself. I hope I answered your question Tactix.
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rockandlice
May 22, 2009, 2:02 AM
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Tactix23 wrote: can anyone here tell me what is the best way to train grip on a sunday? Sorry, 'tis a sin to do such things on the lord's day.
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Tactix23
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Yes and I appreciate the serious replies.. Although the hat story was kind of entertaining haha Guys I apologize if I get pissed off but you gotta understand that I'm trying to do the right thing by asking. I really do want to break into outdoor rock climbing but I don't really know how just yet. I was talking to a chick who worked at the gym and she said you need someone to take you out your first couple of times.. All I know, is I don't have the cash at the moment to drop on my own gear considering these ropes appear to be what 150$? Plus carabiners et One last question, because I don't want to make another thread for it My elbow has been hurting after climbing. It's on the outside of my elbow so I was starting to think it was tennis elbow. Usually it hurts after about an hour to 2 hours of climbing. But yesterday it kicked right in after my first climb. Now I understand, no pain no gain. But I do want to be weary of making it worse. I drum about an hour a day and have been playing for 18 years now I asked a few people at the gym and they said that "yeah that is going to happen and it eventually goes away". But one of them I couldn't really take serious since he said he eventually had to get cortisone shots which I know is not a good thing heh. Any help on that subject? Thanks
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Tactix23
May 23, 2009, 3:03 AM
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Just wanted to say that after getting stumped yesterday by a 5.9 I had already beaten, I was pissed off. So today, I decided to do as many easy routes as I could before I could go to work and really focus on deriving all the power from my legs. My elbow definitely felt a lot better. And I have most certainly been using my arms too much
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altelis
May 23, 2009, 3:43 AM
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How could you be possibly getting tennis elbow while rock climbing? Sheesh. Moron.
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d0novn
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if you are having trouble with 5.8 you should just probably quit climbing. Especially a gym 5.8. Most people on this site I assume climb higher than a 5.10. But go with angrys idea and masturbate because you need your basic strength before you apply it to rock!! Do you think everyone climbs with another person?? Probably should not use a hang board. Just go outside and climb. gyms are for old men to hit on little girls.
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Tactix23 wrote: My elbow has been hurting after climbing. It's on the outside of my elbow so I was starting to think it was tennis elbow. Usually it hurts after about an hour to 2 hours of climbing. But yesterday it kicked right in after my first climb. Now I understand, no pain no gain. But I do want to be weary of making it worse. You're stressing your tendons in unusual ways by climbing. I had the same thing when I first started climbing; I was making big throws, catching past the deadpoint, and generally flopping around like a tuna. Better technique will help you avoid situations that damage you and will let your tendons strengthen slowly. Climbing easier climbs and focusing mostly on technique was a fantastic idea, I'd recommend you continue to do that, but probably not to the exclusion of climbs at your limit. Try to make sure you're getting adequate rest as well, and probably try to avoid doing the same move over and over for two hours. As far as making the transition to outside rock, it can be tough. Like you said, the gear isn't exactly cheap, even if you're only sport climbing. It's probably for the best to get out there with someone who knows what's going on. That's not what I did, but I can see some advantages (safety and gear, namely).
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Tactix23
May 23, 2009, 12:24 PM
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d0novn wrote: if you are having trouble with 5.8 you should just probably quit climbing. Especially a gym 5.8. Most people on this site I assume climb higher than a 5.10. But go with angrys idea and masturbate because you need your basic strength before you apply it to rock!! Do you think everyone climbs with another person?? Probably should not use a hang board. Just go outside and climb. gyms are for old men to hit on little girls. That's funny because I get nothing but praise from every good climber there. Every time they try and help me beat something they say "HOLY SHIT you're climbing THAT and you've only been here 10 times?" And I guess you didn't read the thread when I said I don't have time nor the connections yet to go outside. I signed up for 1 month of gym climbing for fun. Don't sweat it
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Tactix23
May 23, 2009, 12:25 PM
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altelis wrote: How could you be possibly getting tennis elbow while rock climbing? Sheesh. Moron. ha
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Tactix23
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czo wrote: Tactix23 wrote: My elbow has been hurting after climbing. It's on the outside of my elbow so I was starting to think it was tennis elbow. Usually it hurts after about an hour to 2 hours of climbing. But yesterday it kicked right in after my first climb. Now I understand, no pain no gain. But I do want to be weary of making it worse. You're stressing your tendons in unusual ways by climbing. I had the same thing when I first started climbing; I was making big throws, catching past the deadpoint, and generally flopping around like a tuna. Better technique will help you avoid situations that damage you and will let your tendons strengthen slowly. Climbing easier climbs and focusing mostly on technique was a fantastic idea, I'd recommend you continue to do that, but probably not to the exclusion of climbs at your limit. Try to make sure you're getting adequate rest as well, and probably try to avoid doing the same move over and over for two hours. As far as making the transition to outside rock, it can be tough. Like you said, the gear isn't exactly cheap, even if you're only sport climbing. It's probably for the best to get out there with someone who knows what's going on. That's not what I did, but I can see some advantages (safety and gear, namely). thanks man I appreciate that... I was gonna try and get more into with the woman who worked there but I had brought my girlfriend so you know how it is I really don't see a problem though with starting indoors. I'm training myself with doing specified routes. I think once I get outside, the fact I can use ANYTHING to get up the rock will be a lot better than learning to use anything to get up the rock and then sucking in the gym. it's all good though
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dan2see
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Tactix, it's good to be focused, and it's good to be consistent and persistent. It's good that you want you skill level to improve and improve. But your body needs a well-rounded life, just as your mind does, and I think you're focusing much too much on training and skill. So if you have a day off, go out for a walk and enjoy the fresh air and sunshine. Call up a friend (boy or girl) and go to the movies. Read a book. Or stay home and wash the dishes. These are all valuable activities, and your body will benefit. Somebody once said, "Climbing is about your body, and mind, and soul". Climbing can be pretty intense, even when you're not climbing.
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Tactix23
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dan2see wrote: Tactix, it's good to be focused, and it's good to be consistent and persistent. It's good that you want you skill level to improve and improve. But your body needs a well-rounded life, just as your mind does, and I think you're focusing much too much on training and skill. So if you have a day off, go out for a walk and enjoy the fresh air and sunshine. Call up a friend (boy or girl) and go to the movies. Read a book. Or stay home and wash the dishes. These are all valuable activities, and your body will benefit. Somebody once said, "Climbing is about your body, and mind, and soul". Climbing can be pretty intense, even when you're not climbing. fair enough, and thanks for the advice... I do have hobbies for fun.. I would also like to get into mountain biking and track riding motorcycles. Should be a good year coming up!
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May 23, 2009, 10:40 PM
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Go for it!
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d0novn
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okay yeah sure. im sure youll be alot better outdoors in the gym because of all the super hard "training" you do. first off, if people are praising you than you are 1 either fat or mentally disabled, 2 if you are 3 years old or younger, or 3 if your missing a leg. When my little sister tried a 5.8 she made it up. her first time. Most people start out at 10a so kudos. Maybe next time you shouldnt throw such an angry bitch fit if you want support from fellow climbers who actually climb and not spend their sundays masturbating as their "off" day. Even if you climb once a week, if you are the nutrition specialist that you are and a doctor as well as you have proven, you should at least be at hm, a 10d.
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d0novn
May 25, 2009, 3:40 AM
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oh yeah and crimpers on a gym 5.7 is not even real. Not even until past 11a do you get a legit crimp. You know like a finger tip grip?? You should work your grip. alone
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d0novn wrote: okay yeah sure. im sure youll be alot better outdoors in the gym because of all the super hard "training" you do. first off, if people are praising you than you are 1 either fat or mentally disabled, 2 if you are 3 years old or younger, or 3 if your missing a leg. When my little sister tried a 5.8 she made it up. her first time. Most people start out at 10a so kudos. Maybe next time you shouldnt throw such an angry bitch fit if you want support from fellow climbers who actually climb and not spend their sundays masturbating as their "off" day. Even if you climb once a week, if you are the nutrition specialist that you are and a doctor as well as you have proven, you should at least be at hm, a 10d. fail
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d0novn wrote: oh yeah and crimpers on a gym 5.7 is not even real. Not even until past 11a do you get a legit crimp. You know like a finger tip grip?? You should work your grip. alone aaaaand? Fail.
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Tactix23 wrote: My elbow has been hurting after climbing. It's on the outside of my elbow so I was starting to think it was tennis elbow. Usually it hurts after about an hour to 2 hours of climbing. But yesterday it kicked right in after my first climb. Now I understand, no pain no gain. But I do want to be weary of making it worse. I drum about an hour a day and have been playing for 18 years now I asked a few people at the gym and they said that "yeah that is going to happen and it eventually goes away". But one of them I couldn't really take serious since he said he eventually had to get cortisone shots which I know is not a good thing heh. Any help on that subject? Thanks Even though you are a complete idiot, I am going to respond, because even complete idiots don't deserve to be permanently crippled when it is preventable. First of all, if you are climbing more than four days a week, you are climbing too often; your body needs time time to recover. Secondly, do a search for "epicondylitis and stretch". Do the search on this site and on the Web. There are standard stretches for this condition. They work. Jay
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Tactix23
May 25, 2009, 1:57 PM
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d0novn wrote: okay yeah sure. im sure youll be alot better outdoors in the gym because of all the super hard "training" you do. first off, if people are praising you than you are 1 either fat or mentally disabled, 2 if you are 3 years old or younger, or 3 if your missing a leg. When my little sister tried a 5.8 she made it up. her first time. Most people start out at 10a so kudos. Maybe next time you shouldnt throw such an angry bitch fit if you want support from fellow climbers who actually climb and not spend their sundays masturbating as their "off" day. Even if you climb once a week, if you are the nutrition specialist that you are and a doctor as well as you have proven, you should at least be at hm, a 10d. I'm not even gonna bother to tell you what kind of fucking loser you are. but I will play ball and answer your bullshit A) I'm 5'10 150 B) Obviously whatever gym you and your sister are climbing at is easy as fuck. Nobody new could fucking touch a 10 at my gym. Not even a 7.... I know what a crimp is guy.. I couldn't find a picture of the ones we have at my gym so I'll take a picture tomorrow. But let me assure you that even a stuck up faggot like yourself couldn't even get up your first time. And you got a bad attitude guy. Calling me a nutrition specialist when all I did was try and share knowledge on a forum? Grow up.. Pull the stick out of your ass and maybe stop being such a miserable bitch
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Tactix23 wrote: d0novn wrote: okay yeah sure. im sure youll be alot better outdoors in the gym because of all the super hard "training" you do. first off, if people are praising you than you are 1 either fat or mentally disabled, 2 if you are 3 years old or younger, or 3 if your missing a leg. When my little sister tried a 5.8 she made it up. her first time. Most people start out at 10a so kudos. Maybe next time you shouldnt throw such an angry bitch fit if you want support from fellow climbers who actually climb and not spend their sundays masturbating as their "off" day. Even if you climb once a week, if you are the nutrition specialist that you are and a doctor as well as you have proven, you should at least be at hm, a 10d. I'm not even gonna bother to tell you what kind of fucking loser you are. but I will play ball and answer your bullshit A) I'm 5'10 150 B) Obviously whatever gym you and your sister are climbing at is easy as fuck. Nobody new could fucking touch a 10 at my gym. Not even a 7.... I know what a crimp is guy.. I couldn't find a picture of the ones we have at my gym so I'll take a picture tomorrow. But let me assure you that even a stuck up faggot like yourself couldn't even get up your first time. And you got a bad attitude guy. Calling me a nutrition specialist when all I did was try and share knowledge on a forum? Grow up.. Pull the stick out of your ass and maybe stop being such a miserable bitch n00b fight!! Jay
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Tactix23
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hell yeah Just looked up the type rocks and they are called "micro holds". Either way, like I said before, highly doubt your sister could get up a micro holds her first time. Unless your gym has jugs all the way up to 5.10 which would be stupid. They should stop at 5.5-6
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Micro is a brand you moron. good job at the gym by the way. Because i have never climbed anything over 5.10 or never, you know even climbed outdoors. I'm talking about outdoor ratings you foolish twat. I spend my time outdoors and not in the gym trying to hit on the little children girls like you. Good job you weigh 150, even more reason why you suck. You dont even have a handicap, come on now and the only ones with attitude are you and I. Go to yosemite, maybe you will send a v0 but probably not. Or a 5.4 if your lucky. Maybe you shouldn't bring attitude to a table with actual climbers
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