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climbingtrash
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tripperjm wrote: climbingtrash wrote: climbs4fun wrote: snoopy138 wrote: climbs4fun wrote: I haz to somehow average 15 posts a day for the next month or so. So you bitches need to entahtainz me to make it easier. that is awl do ewe lose your green jacket if you don't get to 10k in time? Nah. Just more of my digniteh Dignitty? Hipster please...yore posting in teh BET! I really wish ewe were knot posting in teh BET.
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climbingtrash
Feb 28, 2013, 3:14 PM
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climbingtrash
Feb 28, 2013, 3:14 PM
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trash carez
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climbingtrash
Feb 28, 2013, 3:16 PM
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francheyez gram sent...
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macherry
Feb 28, 2013, 3:30 PM
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lena_chita wrote: tripperjm wrote: macherry wrote: granite_grrl wrote: snoopy138 wrote: granite_grrl wrote: Found the ol' Majid/JakeD story and used it in reply to bearbreader. Hopefully that thread is about to get a whole lot more awesome. I do love that story. It's a story well worth loving. Even it goes unnoticed in that thread it was nice to dig it up again. i enjoyed it Ewe noes.... ewe kin actually lurk hear withowt posting. WOW! macherry, I am impressed! Jack didn't tell you to GTFO, he was actually attempting politeness, as much as he is capable of, anyway... How do you do that, and could you give me some lessons, please?
heh for some reason he tolerates me. i don't post up much or make an annoyance of myself (like trashy).
we have had some reasonable exchanges
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climbingtrash wrote: francheyez gram sent...
trashy carez!
But at least you are not trashing up my phone inbox, like znupe.
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climbingtrash
Feb 28, 2013, 3:50 PM
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macherry wrote: lena_chita wrote: tripperjm wrote: macherry wrote: granite_grrl wrote: snoopy138 wrote: granite_grrl wrote: Found the ol' Majid/JakeD story and used it in reply to bearbreader. Hopefully that thread is about to get a whole lot more awesome. I do love that story. It's a story well worth loving. Even it goes unnoticed in that thread it was nice to dig it up again. i enjoyed it Ewe noes.... ewe kin actually lurk hear withowt posting. WOW! macherry, I am impressed! Jack didn't tell you to GTFO, he was actually attempting politeness, as much as he is capable of, anyway... How do you do that, and could you give me some lessons, please? heh for some reason he tolerates me. i don't post up much or make an annoyance of myself (like trashy). we have had some reasonable exchanges you need to go back and read this thread Go back to page wun or GTFO.
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climbingtrash
Feb 28, 2013, 3:51 PM
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lena_chita wrote: climbingtrash wrote: francheyez gram sent... trashy carez! But at least you are not trashing up my phone inbox, like znupe.
that could change. sn00b pm'd
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Feb 28, 2013, 3:52 PM
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camhead wrote: granite_grrl wrote: snoopy138 wrote: granite_grrl wrote: lena_chita wrote: camhead wrote: tripperjm wrote: snoopy138 wrote: lena_chita wrote: snoopy138 wrote: camhead wrote: snoopy138 wrote: lena_chita wrote: snoopy138 wrote: granite_grrl wrote: lena_chita wrote: snoopy138 wrote: camhead wrote: granite_grrl wrote: snoopy138 wrote: granite_grrl wrote: snoopy138 wrote: caughtinside wrote: snoopy138 wrote: dr_feelgood wrote: snoopy138 wrote: caughtinside wrote: camhead wrote: Dammit, Lena, J teh boi facefriended drivel but knot me! Also, boring gnus. Ice storm last night, not sure how the roads are. Driving to Atlanta today for some interviews, driving was cheaper than flying. I finally broke down and learned how to tie a tie yesterday, which I'd successfully avoided for the past few decades. Did you guys know that the first google autocomplete you get for "how do you..." is "tie a tie?" that is awl. Boston, Atlanta and DC? You're checking out all the climbing hotspots. probibly has an interview lined up in chicago, two. I hope he gets the Omaha jorb. somebody at teh red was telling us about the tons of sick limestonez in iowa that nobody knows about/pays attention to ... might have been eastern iowa, though. guys used to spritz about it on the knob years back. Probably your standard 35' riverbank crumbly limestone, but who knows. There's a few gems or Euro Vacations just about everywhere. yeah, GG was quite skeptical, but the guy was adamant that it was the gratest shit ever. 75', sick overhanging, etc. who nose. I don't remember any of this. it was the guy talking to us at the Shire, over by KSB (the fun 10d with all the iron-pulling) Oh yeah. I think I was happier not remember that conversation. Seriously, was the guy bald, late 30s, with a cigarette rasp in his voice? Kinetic Tony has done some Iowa developement. The rock looks decent. Not enough for a trip, but if I was ever taking a leisurely drive across I-80 I would check it out. Of course, everytime I'm driving through Iowa I have nothing on my mind but getting the fuck out of there. I don't believe so. So that rules out Troy, but not Tony. Tony wouldn't be acting like a gerk. In fact, he would be positively brimming with enthusiasm and offering to take you on a tour... Did the guy have any cliff bar signs on his gear? As in, ALL over his gear? If not, then we just discovered that there is a 3rd guy who knows about the secret radness of Iowa limestone.  I think this guy was leading a group of gumbies who were lurving the Shire. also accurate Hey, you wouldn't have met a group of newbs who were lurving the Shire you you two weren't ALSO at the Shire. Just saying... yes, and it turned out that (a) it's on the way over to Amarillo and Samurai (one of the many gnu proj's I picked up that trip), and (b) that KSB rowt is a kickass warmup. The n00b wall on the shire is not good warmup, though. that was a gud day, actually ... KSB was fun, fell off towards the end of the left traverse on my onsite attempt of Amarillo, zent on try 2, took a beatdown figuring out the boulder porblem on samurai, then went across the valley and zent the Citizen's Arete (2nd try of the day, after hanging draws on try 1). Citizens arête was Lena's mega proj earlier. I think it finally went down after a few years work. well, I have a sneaking suspicion that she went off rowt in the middle and never actually zent. Oh really? Well, keep your suspicions to yourself, unless you have photos to prove it! this sounds a bit like a tacit admission. We awl noes she cheated herself.... cuz that's whut no-talent, sawed oft sprayers due. I dunno. I think that if Lena was going to cheat herself on Citzen's Arete she would have done it in one of the first half dozen redpoint burns she took. And the hangboreding tawk is almost over. Been doing more actual climbing, and I think I am going to name my pins Anderson Cooper, Adam Lambert, and Lance Bass, because those bad boys are COMING OUT on Friday. HeyOOO!!! Awww, someone came to my defense! I am touched! It's O.K., bitter old guys prefer clipbored to hangbored, it happens with age. We will all be there someday. And yay! on the pins coming out. But... you are taking them out the same day you are flying across country? Isn't it a bit.... I dunno, poorly planned? Are you saying you didn't cheat yoreself on Citzen's Arete? yeah, isn't that where you got yore self-cheating beta from? Well, that's what I thought, but apparently I'm incorrect? For the very serious record, I did not see Lena zend Citizen's Arete, but she never used any dubious tactics while I belayed her on it. That is not going to stop me from making up random facts to slander her, though.
I think it has to be not true to be slander.
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drivel
Feb 28, 2013, 4:14 PM
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carabiner96 wrote: caughtinside wrote: carabiner96 wrote: I nailed a median last night and blew out a tire. Found put this morning that I need a new rim as well. There's a few hundred bucks I wasn't expecting :/ Good news is I got on the BoD for PDox. Not supposed to nail those medians. what is up with your organization? Is teh mal back in? What about that new pro chairwoman? Yeah, we're at a $600 at the car shop. There goes my new skis >:( Things are in flux with PDox, as always, but I think I'll be able to make a difference because I speak day dreamer Timmy as well as CFO business finance speak... They need someone bilingual like that to make progress because now everyone just gets frustrated with each other.
I TALK TO THE ATHLETES SO CORPORATE DOESN'T HAVE TO
...how much gu do I have on my face?
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cracklover
Feb 28, 2013, 4:24 PM
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lena_chita wrote: tripperjm wrote: macherry wrote: granite_grrl wrote: snoopy138 wrote: granite_grrl wrote: Found the ol' Majid/JakeD story and used it in reply to bearbreader. Hopefully that thread is about to get a whole lot more awesome. I do love that story. It's a story well worth loving. Even it goes unnoticed in that thread it was nice to dig it up again. i enjoyed it Ewe noes.... ewe kin actually lurk hear withowt posting. WOW! macherry, I am impressed! Jack didn't tell you to GTFO, he was actually attempting politeness, as much as he is capable of, anyway... How do you do that, and could you give me some lessons, please?
Seems like a straightforward equation to me:
Ma's boobs > Lena's boobs > My boobs.
I really thought you were smart enough to figure that out. I'm disappointed, really.
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macherry
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cracklover wrote: lena_chita wrote: tripperjm wrote: macherry wrote: granite_grrl wrote: snoopy138 wrote: granite_grrl wrote: Found the ol' Majid/JakeD story and used it in reply to bearbreader. Hopefully that thread is about to get a whole lot more awesome. I do love that story. It's a story well worth loving. Even it goes unnoticed in that thread it was nice to dig it up again. i enjoyed it Ewe noes.... ewe kin actually lurk hear withowt posting. WOW! macherry, I am impressed! Jack didn't tell you to GTFO, he was actually attempting politeness, as much as he is capable of, anyway... How do you do that, and could you give me some lessons, please? Seems like a straightforward equation to me: Ma's boobs > Lena's boobs > My boobs. I really thought you were smart enough to figure that out. I'm disappointed, really. GO
nope
not so much
and i don't have long hair either
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snoopy138
Feb 28, 2013, 4:59 PM
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climbs4fun wrote: camhead wrote: hehe, train wreck alert: http://www.rockclimbing.com/..._reply;so=ASC;mh=25; Someone revived a decade-old thread to reveal some more dramz on Enigma. At first I thought she was talking about Amber, because she messed up some quote strings, but after telling Amber, I think the comments were directed at Enigma. Wow. Without clicking the link, I think I remember that train wreck.
I didn't read whatever that old thread is, but the train wreck is really in the gnu post.
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snoopy138
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tripperjm wrote: camhead wrote: cracklover wrote: carabiner96 wrote: macherry wrote: camhead wrote: Some low grade dramz here. http://www.rockclimbing.com/...4;page=unread#unread Seriously, I mean, we all know that Lena is a gerk, but I am not sure what Olderic's gripe is. I'm pretty psyched that he dug up teh Kansas City controversy, though! Hopefully some more fun will come out of it. jeez and i never go into the climbing forums the guy had a stalkerty stalkerty vibe I've actually met Eric, and he seemed as normal as any old climbing bum can be. I think he's the type of guy who smoked way too much pot in his youth and is now turning into a crotchety old man. He's got to be late 60s by now. Maybe he has a 3rd grade crush on Lena? I've climbed a fair bit with him, and he's the most different online to in person of anyone I've known. Something about the internet just seems to constantly rub him the wrong way, and then get under his skin until he blows up, as he does with some regularity. Okay, now I'm starting to sound like a stalker. Am not! Just happen to know and like the IRL guy. The online version, not so much. G  Someone needs to make a chart of the online to IRL quotient of users. You know, Eric at one end for "very different," and Angry at the other in "pretty much the same." This past fall, we were at Endless Wall. Me and a friend were BS-ing with some other climbers for a bit. After a while, I walked around the corner to go pee or something. As soon as I was out of earshot, the folks we were talking to said, "You know who that was? I think that was camhead!" Ewe really are a legend.... in yore own mind.
standards for self-legendary status are slipping.
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lena_chita
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Feb 28, 2013, 5:45 PM
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cracklover wrote: lena_chita wrote: tripperjm wrote: macherry wrote: granite_grrl wrote: snoopy138 wrote: granite_grrl wrote: Found the ol' Majid/JakeD story and used it in reply to bearbreader. Hopefully that thread is about to get a whole lot more awesome. I do love that story. It's a story well worth loving. Even it goes unnoticed in that thread it was nice to dig it up again. i enjoyed it Ewe noes.... ewe kin actually lurk hear withowt posting. WOW! macherry, I am impressed! Jack didn't tell you to GTFO, he was actually attempting politeness, as much as he is capable of, anyway... How do you do that, and could you give me some lessons, please? Seems like a straightforward equation to me: Ma's boobs > Lena's boobs > My boobs. Ma's boobs>GO boobs>Lena's no-boobs GO
I corrected your misconception there. But I am afraid you don't understand, Jack is more of an ass, man.
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drivel wrote: carabiner96 wrote: caughtinside wrote: carabiner96 wrote: I nailed a median last night and blew out a tire. Found put this morning that I need a new rim as well. There's a few hundred bucks I wasn't expecting :/ Good news is I got on the BoD for PDox. Not supposed to nail those medians. what is up with your organization? Is teh mal back in? What about that new pro chairwoman? Yeah, we're at a $600 at the car shop. There goes my new skis >:( Things are in flux with PDox, as always, but I think I'll be able to make a difference because I speak day dreamer Timmy as well as CFO business finance speak... They need someone bilingual like that to make progress because now everyone just gets frustrated with each other. I TALK TO THE ATHLETES SO CORPORATE DOESN'T HAVE TO ...how much gu do I have on my face?
Not enough yet, but with that many pages to go, I am sure you'll manage.
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tripperjm
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climbingtrash wrote: climbs4fun wrote: climbingtrash wrote: snoopy138 wrote: climbs4fun wrote: I haz to somehow average 15 posts a day for the next month or so. So you bitches need to entahtainz me to make it easier. that is awl do ewe lose your green jacket if you don't get to 10k in time? that would knot be a bad thing? Somehow I've had the green jacket for 9 years or so. Though for a while I was an admin, so it was red? I don't remember now what color it was. Jak hates teh green jaket. Me, I'm not racist like that.
When I wunts yore opinion,
I'll poynt at ewe with my middle finger.....
until then shut teh fuk up!!!
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tripperjm
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climbs4fun wrote: climbingtrash wrote: climbs4fun wrote: snoopy138 wrote: climbs4fun wrote: I haz to somehow average 15 posts a day for the next month or so. So you bitches need to entahtainz me to make it easier. that is awl do ewe lose your green jacket if you don't get to 10k in time? Nah. Just more of my digniteh Dignitty? Hipster please...yore posting in teh BET! You missed the reference Donny. Go back to page 1 of the original thread. Let us know when you have caught up. Should only take a couple of years.
It's pretty obvious, dispite trashys claim to have read teh entire thread, he's a lyeing sub 5k sack... cuz that wus an easy won.
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tripperjm
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climbingtrash wrote: climbs4fun wrote: climbingtrash wrote: climbs4fun wrote: snoopy138 wrote: climbs4fun wrote: I haz to somehow average 15 posts a day for the next month or so. So you bitches need to entahtainz me to make it easier. that is awl do ewe lose your green jacket if you don't get to 10k in time? Nah. Just more of my digniteh Dignitty? Hipster please...yore posting in teh BET! You missed the reference Donny. Go back to page 1 of the original thread. Let us know when you have caught up. Should only take a couple of years. Or..or...OR...ewe could PM me teh crib notes?
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tripperjm
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lena_chita wrote: Time for a weekly sprayfest. Campusing is coming along pretty well. My goal was to be able to go up without hand matching, but I need to come up with a new one, b.c I already did that, and that tool only 3 campus workouts. Daytripped with Heffe. Climbed well, felt really bouncy. Life is good. Tied with the girl who beat me in the past two comps, and then beat her in the tie-breaker. WOO! For the first time ever, I actually got the same score as Heffe, and that is kinda an accomplishment, bc he does really well in bouldering comps. He placed 4th in men's overall, and we are talking Manderson's friend Fred who is freaking strong getting 3rd, so that means I would have placed 4th among the guys... another woo! Speaking of Heffe, can I deviate from my gerkiness long enough to say that he's been a total sweetheart lately? He won the winter boulder league at the gym, and instead of picking a prize for himself, he picked a girl's Rock Candy hoodie for me, b.c he remembered me saying that i would like one. And guess who made my breakfast today? Awww, heartmelt, puddles, and Valentine's day cooking classes. (No, no, I am joking about the last one!) That's awl. [/spray]
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lena_chita wrote: Man, I haven't had such a lazy Sunday in ages! Feels good to be lazy once in a while. Made some progress on my jean quilt. it would be nice to finally have it done, bc my "design board" is my bedroom floor. Went to the gym this afternoon to do some wall stripping and setting. The request was for a "hard" route. It is difficult for me to gauge the grade while setting, and it has happened more than once that i have planned to make a hard route and ended up with a moderate that requires some tweaking to "harden" it. So I finish setting, and ask a guy to give me a catch. Run though the route, it turned out really nice, flows well, but I think, maybe not quite hard, maybe hard minus... Which in our gym-speak corresponds to ~11b/c. Meanwhile, a visiting guy has been walking circles around the construction cones, dying to try this new route. So he get's on it, and falls on the 1st move. And 3rd move, and 5th move, and 6th move... you get the idea. Comes down and pronounces it to be a "solid 5.12, really sustained, one hard move after another". Not sure, if you can call a 25ft climb a sustained anything, but... heh! Another guy gets on it, same thing... apparently it is harder than I thought. They both like the route, at least that much is good. But now I am wondering if my difficulty gauge really needs recalibrating, or if I had just set one of those "easy-for-people-between-4'10"-and-5'2"-difficult-for-everyone-else" routes. Grading gym routes. Such a fun exercise!
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tripperjm wrote: climbingtrash wrote: climbs4fun wrote: climbingtrash wrote: snoopy138 wrote: climbs4fun wrote: I haz to somehow average 15 posts a day for the next month or so. So you bitches need to entahtainz me to make it easier. that is awl do ewe lose your green jacket if you don't get to 10k in time? that would knot be a bad thing? Somehow I've had the green jacket for 9 years or so. Though for a while I was an admin, so it was red? I don't remember now what color it was. Jak hates teh green jaket. Me, I'm not racist like that. When I wunts yore opinion, I'll poynt at ewe with my middle finger..... until then shut teh fuk up!!!
actually, even if you point at him with yore middle finger ... he should really still just shut the fuck up.
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epoch wrote: lena_chita wrote: Man, I haven't had such a lazy Sunday in ages! Feels good to be lazy once in a while. Made some progress on my jean quilt. it would be nice to finally have it done, bc my "design board" is my bedroom floor. Went to the gym this afternoon to do some wall stripping and setting. The request was for a "hard" route. It is difficult for me to gauge the grade while setting, and it has happened more than once that i have planned to make a hard route and ended up with a moderate that requires some tweaking to "harden" it. So I finish setting, and ask a guy to give me a catch. Run though the route, it turned out really nice, flows well, but I think, maybe not quite hard, maybe hard minus... Which in our gym-speak corresponds to ~11b/c. Meanwhile, a visiting guy has been walking circles around the construction cones, dying to try this new route. So he get's on it, and falls on the 1st move. And 3rd move, and 5th move, and 6th move... you get the idea. Comes down and pronounces it to be a "solid 5.12, really sustained, one hard move after another". Not sure, if you can call a 25ft climb a sustained anything, but... heh! Another guy gets on it, same thing... apparently it is harder than I thought. They both like the route, at least that much is good. But now I am wondering if my difficulty gauge really needs recalibrating, or if I had just set one of those "easy-for-people-between-4'10"-and-5'2"-difficult-for-everyone-else" routes. Grading gym routes. Such a fun exercise! We have the setters post up what they think the route is/should be, then go 1-2 letters above and below and have check-boxes next to the grades. After a week, the highest grade is set and that's what the route is graded. Keeps routes appropriately graded.
Basicly that my issue with conscience grading...
it really is just conscience ov teh lowest comon denomanator.
Fuk awl those soft grading losers!!!1 nothing rong with stiff grades...
or even sandbagged grades. Keep it proud.
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camhead wrote: epoch wrote: lena_chita wrote: Man, I haven't had such a lazy Sunday in ages! Feels good to be lazy once in a while. Made some progress on my jean quilt. it would be nice to finally have it done, bc my "design board" is my bedroom floor. Went to the gym this afternoon to do some wall stripping and setting. The request was for a "hard" route. It is difficult for me to gauge the grade while setting, and it has happened more than once that i have planned to make a hard route and ended up with a moderate that requires some tweaking to "harden" it. So I finish setting, and ask a guy to give me a catch. Run though the route, it turned out really nice, flows well, but I think, maybe not quite hard, maybe hard minus... Which in our gym-speak corresponds to ~11b/c. Meanwhile, a visiting guy has been walking circles around the construction cones, dying to try this new route. So he get's on it, and falls on the 1st move. And 3rd move, and 5th move, and 6th move... you get the idea. Comes down and pronounces it to be a "solid 5.12, really sustained, one hard move after another". Not sure, if you can call a 25ft climb a sustained anything, but... heh! Another guy gets on it, same thing... apparently it is harder than I thought. They both like the route, at least that much is good. But now I am wondering if my difficulty gauge really needs recalibrating, or if I had just set one of those "easy-for-people-between-4'10"-and-5'2"-difficult-for-everyone-else" routes. Grading gym routes. Such a fun exercise! We have the setters post up what they think the route is/should be, then go 1-2 letters above and below and have check-boxes next to the grades. After a week, the highest grade is set and that's what the route is graded. Keeps routes appropriately graded. I think that gym routes should go through double-blind peer review processes for grading. Actually, that should go for outside routes, too. It really is the only sensible option.
Well then yore knot gunna like teh grades at teh hole.
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tripperjm wrote: camhead wrote: epoch wrote: lena_chita wrote: Man, I haven't had such a lazy Sunday in ages! Feels good to be lazy once in a while. Made some progress on my jean quilt. it would be nice to finally have it done, bc my "design board" is my bedroom floor. Went to the gym this afternoon to do some wall stripping and setting. The request was for a "hard" route. It is difficult for me to gauge the grade while setting, and it has happened more than once that i have planned to make a hard route and ended up with a moderate that requires some tweaking to "harden" it. So I finish setting, and ask a guy to give me a catch. Run though the route, it turned out really nice, flows well, but I think, maybe not quite hard, maybe hard minus... Which in our gym-speak corresponds to ~11b/c. Meanwhile, a visiting guy has been walking circles around the construction cones, dying to try this new route. So he get's on it, and falls on the 1st move. And 3rd move, and 5th move, and 6th move... you get the idea. Comes down and pronounces it to be a "solid 5.12, really sustained, one hard move after another". Not sure, if you can call a 25ft climb a sustained anything, but... heh! Another guy gets on it, same thing... apparently it is harder than I thought. They both like the route, at least that much is good. But now I am wondering if my difficulty gauge really needs recalibrating, or if I had just set one of those "easy-for-people-between-4'10"-and-5'2"-difficult-for-everyone-else" routes. Grading gym routes. Such a fun exercise! We have the setters post up what they think the route is/should be, then go 1-2 letters above and below and have check-boxes next to the grades. After a week, the highest grade is set and that's what the route is graded. Keeps routes appropriately graded. I think that gym routes should go through double-blind peer review processes for grading. Actually, that should go for outside routes, too. It really is the only sensible option. Well then yore knot gunna like teh grades at teh hole.
He'll like the Big Tony grades.
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