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dingus
Feb 26, 2004, 3:14 PM
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In reply to: T'was Abalakov all along... Brian in SLC
Nice work.
Someone mentioned Muir. No one mentioned Ruskin, who romantisized the Alps and encouraged people to get back to nature and climb, away from the Industrial Revolution of the mid-1800's in England. Though the Whymper tragedy dampened his enthusiasm for climbing the influence remains.
Check on the Jardine thing. Point taken. My first cams were G-1 Wild Country Friends too. Still have a few of them.
DMT
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camhead
Feb 26, 2004, 3:32 PM
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no one has mentioned Stallone yet? His massive biceps legitimized campusing and dynamic movement, paving the way for John Gill. His innovative use of the bolt gun singlehandedly kickstarted the sport revolution. Most importantly, in the movie Cliffhanger he instructed Gullich with a hemp rope, which is probably where the previous statement came from. Ron Kauk owes a lot to Stallone as well.
Climbing was suffering in a slump until this "John Rambo" came along and revolutionized it with his vigilante "loose cannon" ethics. We owe a lot to him. he is a one man army of climbing mayhem.
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shortfatoldguy
Mar 14, 2004, 6:48 PM
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^^Camdude, I think Olevsky stole that from Ben Franklin. It should be amended to say "...and a representative republic is when the lamb is packing a .40 S&W with two spare mags."
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harihari
Mar 22, 2004, 4:58 AM
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William Wordsworth. English Romantic poet 1770-1850 or so. Wrote "The Prelude" (which has a section on walking and scrambling in the high Alps).
This guy was largely responsible for introducing (to the English-speaking world) the then-radical idea that the human experience of raw (but magnificent) Nature could be an aesthetic one. Also hugely contributed to the idea that these intense personal experiences were an essential part of personal transformation, somethign whcih modern climbers again and again bring up.
Wordsworth, who lived in the Lake District and spent a lot of time scrambling and walking, got a a whole generation of people fascinated with the outdoors, and with wild and exotic places. Along with various of his German contemporaries who did more or less the same thing (E.g. Novalis), he not only got people outdoors, but showed us a way of thinking that made any kind of intense experience of nature a part of both personal development and connection with the natural world.
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elemeno
Apr 20, 2004, 4:02 AM
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Stallone sold me one of those star trek machines.
Reinhold is number one.
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irockclimb
Jul 24, 2004, 4:10 AM
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id saw Alex lowe or dean potter. i have great repsect for both of them
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jefffski
Jul 31, 2004, 8:38 AM
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i interpret influence to mean the people who brought us very idea of climbing. without their contributions perhaps people like Royal Robbins, Chouinard, Hill, Gullich, might never have started.
I'd have to say WHYMPER. his climb of the matterhorn was like man landing on the moon. he popularized the notion of climbing.
if i had to add a second name it would be HERZOG, whose book ANNAPURNA was read by millions.
A third would be HILLARY--the most famous climber of all time.
these men brought climbing into our lives.
All the others, as great as they may indeed be lived and some continue to live almost in obscurity to all those who don't climb.
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worleybird25
Jul 31, 2004, 1:19 PM
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JOHN SHERMAN!!!!!!! What has changed climbing more than anything else? I believe the answer is bouldering. With bouldering came John Sherman's V-system. Bouldering and the V-system have brought an enormous level of competition to the sport of climbing. THis competitive nature of climbing is what John Sherman regrets about his creation. In an interview on the triple crown video John Sherman says that he feels like Dr. Frankenstein, the man who created a monster that he himself could not destroy.
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jtme
Jul 31, 2004, 1:38 PM
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Robert Underhill
Glen Dawson
Jules Eichorn
Norman Clyde (in particular)
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trackhead
Jul 31, 2004, 1:53 PM
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Hillary, Tenzing.
Rheinhold.
Chouinard.
Beckey.
To name a few.
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bvb
Jul 31, 2004, 5:11 PM
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dumb question. the obvious answer is bvb.
now kindly STFU, noobs.
seriously though, i'd have to say it was some guy in a lab...the dude who invented perlon ropes, making it possible to safely take repeated falls.
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gambler
Jul 31, 2004, 6:35 PM
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Captain Granitic....nuff said
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curt
Jul 31, 2004, 6:45 PM
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In reply to: dumb question. the obvious answer is bvb. now kindly STFU, noobs.
Bob, you misread the topic.
It is not "Who has climbed under the influence the most." :wink:
Curt
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ikefromla
Jul 31, 2004, 7:04 PM
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In reply to: seriously though, i'd have to say it was some guy in a lab...the dude who invented perlon ropes, making it possible to safely take repeated falls. |
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My opinion: Salathe. At least as far as rock climbing goes.
Before him it was usually about the summit. With the climb of Lost Arrow Chimney he made the statement it's not just about getting to the top. I view that climb as the birth of "rock climbing" vs. moutaineering.
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howlermonkey
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For me it was the French - I "had" to read Annapurna for a high school English class. Herzog, Lachenal, Terray, and Rebuffat. Later, it was another Frenchman (of sorts), Chouinard. But nothing and no one inspired me so much as my first view of El Capitan, driving into the Valley with my old man at the tender age of eight years. BTW, the root word of "hardman" is Harding, and Galen helped us all clean up our act.
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tcantor333
Aug 7, 2004, 8:51 PM
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This just like that question about the greatest rock band of all time, or , maybe the other one about the best Led Zepellin album, or possibly which "Doublemint Twin" is cuter.
I have to agree with those that speak of the legends of the sport, which Dean will one day be. But most influencial, try one of these: Shipton, Weissner, Mallory, Robbins, Harding, Chouinard, Herbert, Frost, Steck, Beckey, Rebuffet (ya know where the term gaston came from, right?) et al then Bridwell, Rowell, Long, Hill, Bachar, Sorensen, Hersey, Gullich, Kauk, Ament, Lowe, Roskelley, Unsoeld, Whittaker, Robinson, take your pick, and oh yeah don't forget that Messner guy or Peter Croft or Alex Lowe or a number of others that continue in a very long list of which many are left unmentioned. Shoot, I think if you study the history on these individuals and many others you'll find that what has influenced climbing the most is the spirit, determination, style, and love of the sport that are embodied by all of these individuals and drive climbers to success in general; Dean Potter included. Let's not discount the contributions of the many to emulate the acheivements of one, as great as those acheivements are. Now there's a research paper for ya.
Cheers!!!
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tcantor333
Aug 7, 2004, 9:59 PM
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Well, I guess the sport is an amalgam of the efforts of many.
If Stallone gets a vote than Clint Eastwood gets mine. The Eiger kicks A$$ on that little piece of choss in Cliffhanger.
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punk_rocker333
Aug 9, 2004, 11:51 PM
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Fred Beckey.
Over 1,000 first ascents and at 82 years old he still leads 5.12.
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areyoumydude
Aug 10, 2004, 12:00 AM
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In reply to: Fred Beckey. at 82 years old he still leads 5.12.
:roll:
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kachoong
Aug 10, 2004, 12:47 AM
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Royal Robbins
Don Whillans
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stevep
Aug 10, 2004, 6:16 PM
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In reply to: Fred Beckey. Over 1,000 first ascents and at 82 years old he still leads 5.12.
I have tremendous respect for the climbing accomplishments of Fred, who probably has more first ascents then anyone ever, but I'm pretty sure he's not leading 5.12 these days.
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bubbatolius
Aug 10, 2004, 6:57 PM
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Climbing is so broad that it is hard to pick one. So just to add to the growing list... Kurt Albert for defining the concept of freeclimbing and redpoint.
For me personally: Messner and Chouinard
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gambler
Aug 11, 2004, 12:39 AM
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In reply to: punk_rocker333 wrote: Fred Beckey. Over 1,000 first ascents and at 82 years old he still leads 5.12. I have tremendous respect for the climbing accomplishments of Fred, who probably has more first ascents then anyone ever, but I'm pretty sure he's not leading 5.12 these days. In reply to: I think he saw that SUV comercial where they added up class 3 rapids and class 2 rapids = class 5 |
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gambler
Aug 11, 2004, 12:40 AM
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oops I screwed up that quote thing again....doh
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