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goopermc
Mar 18, 2002, 5:47 PM
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My climbing partner (maculated) is a sport climber where I am a boulderer. Recently she asked my why I like bouldering more then climbing tied in.
I gave her this answer her: I believe that bouldering is more pure the climbing with a rope. There are no other things to consider, it is truly just you and the rock.
I also don’t like the waiting involved in climbing for a rope. It seems like you get to wait for 15 minutes to climb for 5.
I ask the rock climbing bouldering community “why do you boulder instead of climbing tied in”?
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dontneedfeet
Mar 18, 2002, 6:14 PM
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For one thing, it's cheaper. Bad reason, but I'm in school...and debt sucks.
You also get on the rock more. Belaying for a long time sucks after a few shifts...
The only thing I really miss about it is the height. Short of free soloing, you don't get as high up, get that sense of accomplishment you do roping in.
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sheppe
Mar 18, 2002, 6:20 PM
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--Quote--
I gave her this answer her: I believe that bouldering is more pure the climbing with a rope. There are no other things to consider, it is truly just you and the rock.
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Humbug says I! Climbing is climbing, whether you're down low, or three pitches up. The reason I boulder? There's no-one around to give me a belay, or I need a workout. I enjoy bouldering and sport climbing, and whether I'm attached to a rope or not is irrelevant (outside of the obvious safety aspect). I just wanna climb
-Sheppe
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rrrADAM
Mar 18, 2002, 6:32 PM
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Because I enjoy it, and it makes me a better all around climber, by improving my feet and power.
But I prefer long multi-pitch Trad Routes the most. As quoted in the newest issue of Climbing, "Trad climbing will take me where Sport Climbing [or any other type for that matter] never will." ~Bobbi Bensman
rrrADAM
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i don't boulder, it's too easy. bouldering is an instant gratification thing. what's going to last longer, that "hey, rad" feeling of sending V-hard in a day, or the "oh my f---ing god" euphoria of redpointing your hardest route ever after two weeks of work?
you may have to wait through 15 minutes of belaying to get on a route, but then you get to climb 100ft worth of boulder problems.
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camhead
Mar 18, 2002, 6:49 PM
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I don't like bouldering, because it is way tough to hang-dog when doing it.
"Take!"
THUNK!!!
"Ow."
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daisuke
Mar 18, 2002, 7:03 PM
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I boulder to increase strength, learn to balance my body and move better.
It's not instant gratification, it's training without the need to haul all the gear around and tie in and need a belayer and so on and so forth. I wouldn't exactly call bouldering "climbing" though. to climb means to ascend up something, and with bouldering it's sideways on half the problems. but whatever you want to call it, it's still fun and it's still an accomplishment!
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coldclimb
Mar 18, 2002, 7:55 PM
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I boulder for the fun of it. I see a rock, I tell my friends, "Hey, watch this," and climb it just to have fun. It's all climbing, and it's all fun. Bouldering also helps in training.
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goopermc
Mar 18, 2002, 7:57 PM
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It sounds like everyone here boulders beacause they can't climb tied in. Don't we have any unadulterated boulderers here?
sheppe: "I believe that bouldering is more pure the climbing with a rope". I guess that pure was the wrong word to use. I didn't mean that bouldering was better then climbing tied in (Even though it is ), I just mean there was less external stuff to worry about. You don't have to worry about pro, knots, clips, etc. All you have to worry about is your next move.
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sarhawp
Mar 18, 2002, 8:30 PM
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I find that I can learn a lot faster bouldering than I can on a rope. I can try a problem, get stuck, get off the rock, study it, contemplate ideas, try again, get spit off the rock again, sit back down, contemplate some more, have a consultation, and try again till I get it. On a rope I feel like I just bore the heck out of my belayer trying to figure a route out. I also hate the rope--just too constricting when I TR.
I just get a better feeling when I boulder than when I do routes.
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miagi
Mar 18, 2002, 8:39 PM
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For me I like bouldering for a number of reasons.
1. You dont have to waste time setting up ropes and gear.
2. All you need is a pad, and chalkbag.
3. Its great training. Instead of going up 30 feet and reaching a good training spot (crux) and then fall off having to start all over again, you have it all at your fingertips
4. Crags are a little hard to find. Boulders arnt that hard to locate.
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melonhead
Mar 18, 2002, 10:22 PM
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Come-on. I mean sure bouldering is "cute", but no where near a pure form of climbing. If you guys want pure, go free soloing at your limit. Don't see any boulderers doing that. Now that's a pure form of climbing. Not jumping on a crash pad.
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sheppe
Mar 18, 2002, 10:44 PM
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goopermc,
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I guess that pure was the wrong word to use. I didn't mean that bouldering was better then climbing tied in (Even though it is ), I just mean there was less external stuff to worry about. You don't have to worry about pro, knots, clips, etc. All you have to worry about is your next move.
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Well, to each their own. Bouldering is nice, if you don't have the gear/a belayer/what have you, but it takes me all of one minute to tie in, double check the gear, and start leading. Then following getting tied in, I get to climb for ninety feet on a single pitch. The rope isn't in the way when you're leading, and if you're TRing then you can ask for a loose belay, if the rope bugs ya. Bouldering is nice for instant gratification, and for training, but IMHO it isn't as rewarding as leading a climb that pushes your limits. Just my two cents.
-Sheppe
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treyr
Mar 18, 2002, 10:54 PM
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To get strength. If you can climb hard moves then it helps you get stronger but it does not work with endurance
Trob
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nikegirl
Mar 19, 2002, 1:26 AM
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I love bouldering! I love climbing...I love it all!!
Bouldering is easy to do solo.
I don't need to have anyone with me.
Where vertical, I've gotta coincide scheduals!
Sheesh!!
CAMHEAD??? LOL
QUOTE:
I don't like bouldering, because it is way tough to hang-dog when doing it.
"Take!"
THUNK!!!
"Ow."
LOL
Oh my goddess!!
I almost blew snot on that one!!!! Laughed out loud reaaaally loud!! Hillarious!
Bouldering builds core strength, like no tomorrow, and I love to work the feet!!! And it's DAMN HARD work.
T
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metoliusmunchkin
Mar 19, 2002, 1:57 AM
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Bouldering, in my thoughts, is the purest form of climbing. Climbing, distilled to its most aseptic and its most based component, would be bouldering.
There are no hassles, no ropes, no needed equipment, no intricacies or complications whatsoever. Just you, and the rock, that's it.
That is why I love to boulder. The very essence of climbing...
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spodski
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i believe that no one is wrong no one is right everyone has there own opinion, but if you cant go climbing on a rope do the next best thing go bouldering its the same thing just that you dont use a rope
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phil_nev
Mar 19, 2002, 12:40 PM
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"i don't boulder, it's too easy. bouldering is an instant gratification thing."
so wutang thinks bouldering is too easy??? Unless your consistently sending v10+ boulder problems then u shouldnt even thnik that. Even then.... sorry, but i have to laugh, at your comment. My advice to toy is to jump on say a V5 boulder problem, say a sit start dyno problem, then come back and say bouldering is too easy......
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rrrADAM
Mar 19, 2002, 1:07 PM
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This reply is all in jest, so take no offense.
"i like bouldering because its a lot harder than doing routes. think about it, when your climbing routes you can't do as hard of moves as you can when bouldering. because it is so much shorter you can be much more aggressive than you can when doing routes because you'll get too tired to keep climbing for any length of time."
Spoken like a true "youngster"...
I remember when I was a teen and couldn't last more than a couple minutes, they called it premature ___________. I was a "minute-man". Now I'm in my 30's, and I find that what teens can do over and over, all night long, for brief periods each time... I can do once, all night long.
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passthepitonspete
Mar 19, 2002, 1:16 PM
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You cannot solo big walls unless your endurance is legendary.
Not only am I getting older, but emphatically I am getting better.
All night long is never a problem, dude. But only "once" per night, Adam?
Tich, tich.
Do not despair, lad. In a few years, you will be as old as me!
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russman
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My wife and I are in the process of starting our Bouldering career (this Spring) as well as keeping up our Sport Climbing...and I am waiting to learn Trad.
The main reason I am starting it is becasue SHE wants to....there is no better reason to start and learn when your wife or girlfriend/boyfriend says...I want to do that. I said OK...I will buy the stuff. We just need the crashpad now and will be set up. The funny thing is...around here there is no wait for a climb (can find tons with no climbers) Most climbs are short (no long belays)....just ANOTHER form of climbing to me
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The feeling of not wearing the haress and ropes to be taken care of. In singapore where there are very few natural rock walls, it's hard to do rock climbing. Although there are many man-made big walls around, i still prefer bouldering. I'm new to climbing, so i'll start with bouldering first.
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nikegirl
Mar 19, 2002, 3:14 PM
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Ok, rrradam and ptpp:
THAT TIME????? I DID blow snot!!!
HAHAHAHAHAH!!!!
T
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Hey Wu-Tang...if you think bouldering is too easy than it's obvious you aren't looking hard enough for those tough bouldering routes. Although some may consist of only 3-4 moves, they're the hardest 4-5 moves to conquer.
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Mar 19, 2002, 3:33 PM
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metoliusmunchkin,
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Bouldering, in my thoughts, is the purest form of climbing. Climbing, distilled to its most aseptic and its most based component, would be bouldering.
There are no hassles, no ropes, no needed equipment, no intricacies or complications whatsoever. Just you, and the rock, that's it.
That is why I love to boulder. The very essence of climbing...
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Again with this 'purest form of climbing' thing. Again, I say humbug! Climbing is climbing, whether there's a rope or not. The rope is there so you don't die! Are you telling me that because I'm attached to a rope, I'm not 'climbing purely'? Gimme a break....
-Sheppe
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