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indigo_nite
Jan 21, 2004, 8:55 PM
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I've been experiencing elbow tendinitis on and off. a friend said he tried an elbow wrap that contained a magnet.
has anyone tried this? do you have any feedback (positive or other)? also, is it a special magnet or would something like a kitchen magnet have similar effect (if it works at all)?
thanks for any info. -Carol
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lstockett
Jan 21, 2004, 9:07 PM
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My personal opinion is that magnets and other 'alternative medicine' are a waste of time and effort. If something works, then well-run, controlled, published, repeatable scientific trials will prove it. If a treatment hasn't met this criteria then I won't use it.
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sticky_fingers
Jan 21, 2004, 9:25 PM
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Agree with lstockett....simply h()rsesh!t. There isn't enough metal in our body to be affected by small magnets, let alone NON-MOVING magnets.
If you feel you have tendonitis, about the only good Rx is rest, slowly get back into climbing, and stretching the area often (and possibly trying to relax the area when you climb)
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climbaddic
Jan 21, 2004, 9:40 PM
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In reply to: I've been experiencing elbow tendinitis on and off. a friend said he tried an elbow wrap that contained a magnet. has anyone tried this? do you have any feedback (positive or other)?
If strong magnet such as MRI doesn’t have any affect on human body, I doubt regular magnet will do anything to your body.
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bitsofsod
Jan 21, 2004, 9:42 PM
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Can't say that I think magnets will help, but I've read that acupuncture has been clinically proven effective.
Whatever you do -- rest the thing. I haven't climbed since late summer and recently had surgery on my elbow for my tendonitis.
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flagstaff_climber
Jan 21, 2004, 9:45 PM
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Medical magnets are just the latest in a long and not so proud history of quack remedies.
The fields of even the strongest rare earth magnets fall off to negligible levels, ( insofar as having any physical effect on ferrous material ) after just a few centimeters.
Rick
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epic_ed
Jan 21, 2004, 9:49 PM
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Magnets are complete horse crap contrived out of the imagination of multi-level marketing, pyramid scheming jerk offs and are scientifically proven not to heal any maladies, but to seperate you from your wallet.
Ed
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dsafanda
Jan 21, 2004, 9:52 PM
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Why not try leeches?
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j_ung
Jan 21, 2004, 9:53 PM
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Sheeee-it, indigo-nite, they aren't even the latest.
I tried them once for back pain and experienced zero recovery effect. In fact, during the time that I was wearing those things, my back got worse! What's more, the salesfreak who gave them to me had all sorts of bogus "demonstrations" to prove that magnets were superior to all other treatments (including common sense). I convinced him to let me borrow a set for a couple of weeks, with the promise that if they worked, I would buy some and even consider selling them for him. It was a crock.
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wideguy
Jan 21, 2004, 10:01 PM
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OK, so slight hijack here but seems like you guys would know.
Have tendonitis in my elbow. Saw a doc back in late November who persrived anti-inflamatories, ice, an elbow strap and rest. Come back and see me again if it doesn't get better "in a while." Asked him about climbing and he said it would be OK if I took it easy. "May hurt but won't do any further damage." So now we're almost 8 weeks later, I have climbed 3 times but real easy, and no improvement. Still have one more 30 day refill on my meds. Is it time to go back? Should I insist on an ortho consult at some point?
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bitsofsod
Jan 22, 2004, 3:00 AM
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Wideguy -- I've been fighting this for a long time and tried rest, stretching, ice, anti-inflammatories (topical and pills), PT, ultrasound, two cortisone injections and now surgery. What I understand (and I'm not a doctor, even on TV) is that the tendon becomes inflamed, abrasions/spurs develop, and the condition may go away if rested. If not, cortizone shots may help (and they helped me for a few months, then the pain was back). My doc cut open my elbow, cut away the tendon and bone, and now I'm hoping it gets better (85-90% success rate).
The only thing I didn't try before surgery was acupuncture:
http://www.medicalacupuncture.com/aama_marf/journal/vol13_1/article3.html
This recent article addresses the effectiveness of various treatments:
http://www.aapmr.org/zdocs/assembly/03handouts/M146_2.pdf
Good luck, and I think you need to find another doc.
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drkodos
Jan 22, 2004, 3:16 AM
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In reply to: I've read that acupuncture has been clinically proven effective.
I read in the same fine publication that Bat-boy helped us find Hussein....
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curt
Jan 22, 2004, 3:35 AM
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In reply to: I've been experiencing elbow tendinitis on and off. a friend said he tried an elbow wrap that contained a magnet. has anyone tried this? do you have any feedback (positive or other)? also, is it a special magnet or would something like a kitchen magnet have similar effect (if it works at all)? thanks for any info. -Carol
These actually work. And, after your elbow is better, wrap the magnets around your car's carburetor or fuel injection system. You should start getting around 100 miles per gallon. :lol:
Curt
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toejam
Jan 22, 2004, 8:16 PM
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I think these devices can be somewhat effective in pain relief due to the placebo effect. However this thread has just ruined it for you.
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overlord
Jan 22, 2004, 8:23 PM
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the placebo effect is the only effect and is now ruined to you.
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indigo_nite
Jan 23, 2004, 1:00 AM
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alright. I have heard that magnets have no scientific proof of effectiveness but was curious what people had experienced.
I will probably try wrapping a couple kitchen magnets under my elbow wrap just to try. placebo effect did sound like the most likely cure, I'll agree. thanks for the responses, which were on the whole entertaining.
-Carol
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curt
Jan 23, 2004, 1:08 AM
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In reply to: I will probably try wrapping a couple kitchen magnets under my elbow wrap just to try. placebo effect did sound like the most likely cure, I'll agree. thanks for the responses, which were on the whole entertaining. -Carol
Just remember to keep your distance from the fridge--lest you become hopelessly stuck. :lol:
Curt
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dfirsty
Jan 23, 2004, 7:17 AM
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bitsofsod spoke of accupuncture....I can say that this works wonders. At times my elbow will lock up. Accupuncure keeps me symptom free for at least a mont.
If you go to an accupunture school it's cheap.....Most insurance plans won't cover it.
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flechenbones
Jan 24, 2004, 4:55 PM
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Two words for you Carol - think critically.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=PubMed&cmd=Retrieve&list_uids=12403203&dopt=Citation
http://skepdic.com/magnetic.html
"I know of no scientist who takes this claim seriously...It's another fad. They come and go like copper bracelets and crystals and all of these things, and this one will pass too." --Robert Park of the American Physical Society.
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casco
Jan 24, 2004, 5:37 PM
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It might work, if the magnet IS strong enough, AND big enough... I´d be careful while crossing the streets :lol:
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timstich
Jan 25, 2004, 1:42 PM
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In reply to: Can't say that I think magnets will help, but I've read that acupuncture has been clinically proven effective. Whatever you do -- rest the thing. I haven't climbed since late summer and recently had surgery on my elbow for my tendonitis.
No it hasn't, at least not in a respected medical journal. Accupunture has, like magnetotherapy, been clinically proven to be associated with the placebo effect. In other words,
http://www.totalfree.at/...tack%20-%20Front.jpg
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pisceian
Jan 25, 2004, 4:03 PM
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Most of the research with magnets is testimonial, they can't figure out why they work, but they do!
I suggest buying a Nikken brace (ebay where they're cheaper) and wear it consistently to see an effect. I know 3 out of 3 people it has worked for (all specifically elbow tendonitis too). Not a huge sample, but 100% indeed.
I had busted my shoulder and wore the magnetic shoulder brace for a month when I slept. Before this I had 6 months of no improvement. After a month with the magnet I was all better. I also use it for wrist, knee, and ankle pain.
Kitchen magnets will not work. Check out Nikken's site.
Good luck and get well soon,
Pam
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Jan 25, 2004, 5:16 PM
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Magnets are useless for tendon related injuries.
But it is a little known fact in the doper world that if you put a magnet wrap around your head, smoke some herbalicious and drink some beer, you WILL GET HIGH.
A vicodin will really jump start the magnetic processes.
Seriously.
Word.
Late.
DMT
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timstich
Jan 25, 2004, 9:54 PM
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In reply to: Most of the research with magnets is testimonial, they can't figure out why they work, but they do!
Riiiiiiiight.
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