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uzziah


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requirements:
1. able to sleep in and be low-profile. i.e. vw campers are out (they're out anyway because of reliability and awful-in-snow) i live in CO. i want to be able to sleep anywhere without someone knowing i'm there :)
2. 4wd
3. under $7k

desireables: (in order of wanted)
1. reliability
2. manual transmission
3. gas mileage

current thoughts:
1. toyota tacoma with shell
2. toyota 4runner: remove rear seats and engineer a platform


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http://www.smartimes.co.uk/images/fp.jpg

personally, i think you should go with this :lol:

gotta love smart cars :roll:


uzziah


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http://autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=178817469&dealer_id=56012154&car_year=1997&make=TOYOTA&distance=300〈=en&max_price=7000&model=4RUN&sponsorModel=&end_year=2006&min_price=1&certified=&address=80303&search_type=both&advanced=&start_year=1996&isp=y&cardist=29

that's what i want.

darn. just called 1st owner. seems like he'd take good care of it. but 277k miles. i don't think i can do that. thoughts?

kelly blue book is still giving me a value of $7400, which seems way to high for me. i mean, how much longer could it possibly run?? i don't think i'd be able to resell it, but he seems eager to sell and i could probably get him to lower the price - he's having a hard time finding a buyer

1st owner, all highway miles. he sees clients all over the place. older guy who i would imagine it would be well mainainted

i mean, though: could this actually last me another 100k miles if it's been well taken care of? it seems like the land of diminishing returns, but the cars are very reliable.


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Chevy astro/gmc safari?


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http://autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=178817469&dealer_id=56012154&car_year=1997&make=TOYOTA&distance=300&lang=en&max_price=7000&model=4RUN&sponsorModel=&end_year=2006&min_price=1&certified=&address=80303&search_type=both&advanced=&start_year=1996&isp=y&cardist=29

that's what i want.

darn. just called 1st owner. seems like he'd take good care of it. but 277k miles. i don't think i can do that. thoughts?

That's a lot of miles, even for a solid vehicle like a 4runner. Maybe for 2k, but 6,400?


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reliability


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that's my thought as well. kbb disagress though. i think kbb is smoking something. i just wonder how long it could last. i know few cars that would last that long. but if it's been well taken care of mechanically, and i get it checked out at my local mechanic, i might have some serious bargaining room. he seemed positively giddy that i called :) he must have an incredibly hard time finding a buyer


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http://autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=178860045&dealer_id=56014138&car_year=1996&search_type=both&make=TOYOTA&sponsorModel=&distance=300&model=4RUN&address=80303&certified=&advanced=&max_price=7002&min_price=1&end_year=2006&start_year=1996&isp=y&lang=en&cardist=26

that one has 100k less miles, but it's an automatic which i don't like


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Come on man. I've got this sweet 76 Bus that has your name all over it. I'm selling it for 2500. If you have 7000 to spend you'd have enoungh to buy you an extra engine and store it on top in your new roof rack. I live in Colorado too. Been driving a bus for 10 years. Great in the snow. Not low profile. I did take the 420 stickers off.


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Jeep Cherokee


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That's a nice car why do you care so much it's automatic. That just makes it easier on long drives.


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Cherokee man.


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jeep gives me hives. those things are reliability-nightmares. they leek oil et.c most unreliable vehicle on the road

well, maybe if i'm thinking of older cars i should consider american cars, but i still think i'm going to get my butt kicked in reliability

lots of japanese car haters out here, eh?


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Subaru Impreza Wagon

4 Runners are very overpriced


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can't sleep in the imprezz homie.


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I second the Subie Impreza or even an Outback which has a lilttle more room. You can easily find a good one for 7k.


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Try Craig's List in you area. Here's an example of a Subaru Outback search in the SF Bay area.

http://www.craigslist.org/cgi-bin/search?areaID=1&subAreaID=&type_search=1&query=outback&cat=sss


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Jeep Cherokee!!! the only way to go... best suv ever made. We have two, one we have has 250,000+ miles. They are great off road and have lots of sleeping room.

The best years they were made were: 91-93 4.0L and 97 and later 4.0L. Other than that i would look at the 98 Grand Cherokee Limited 5.9L.... These are the CREAM OF THE CROP Jeeps (that are big enough to sleep in)

If you have any questions about these jeeps just ask.


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can't sleep in the imprezz homie.
Not true. Impreza wagon. Rear seats down. Kitty corner. Push the gear out of the way.


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Get the 'yota my friend. My advice is get a 2 inch body lift and put 32's on it. Oh, and make sure it's a stick. Silly automatics. Just so people can eat their whopper and drive at the same time.


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Oh yeah, a Subie also gets about 22 city/27 highway miles. Very important to consider. Gas is pretty expensive here around my parts.


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Get the 'yota my friend. My advice is get a 2 inch body lift and put 32's on it. Oh, and make sure it's a stick. Silly automatics. Just so people can eat their whopper and drive at the same time.
Lots of serious dirt rigs are automatic. For some cars (e.g. my 5-speed wagon), the automatic version gets better EPA mileage estimates. OTOH, if you want a vehicle on a budget with lower maintainance costs, a stick is the way to go.


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Jeep Cherokee!!! the only way to go... best suv ever made. We have two, one we have has 250,000+ miles. They are great off road and have lots of sleeping room.

The best years they were made were: 91-93 4.0L and 97 and later 4.0L. Other than that i would look at the 98 Grand Cherokee Limited 5.9L.... These are the CREAM OF THE CROP Jeeps (that are big enough to sleep in)

If you have any questions about these jeeps just ask.

ok, you've got me interested. my impression on jeeps are that they are absolute reliability disastors. are you saying yours just "ran" that long, or that you actually had few problems during that tme? my experience with jeep is that they leek oil, break down and alltogether are just awful vehicles, off road exluded


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Dude, the Jeep cherokee is the shit. I own a 98 sport with 86k miles on it and never once leaked oil, gas, etc. The back seats fold down and the front fold almost all the way foreward, giving you enough room the have a orgy. Believe me...I've tried. O.k. no I didnt. N.E. way, I know of at least 3 buddies of mine all of whom drive cherokees with over 150k miles on the original engine...still running like champ. Definately check em' out man.....I got mine with 65k and got it for $6,500.


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jeeps are crap

buy a toyota.....impossible to kill....they just keep running......though they rust

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