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e_free
Apr 22, 2005, 11:46 AM
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I wrote an article to the author that was pretty short and sarcastic, and another to the editor that linked to the original article he plagerized asking for thm to discipline him, to take off that article, and to research and write a nre one, but mostly just to do SOMETHING so no one gets hurt "belaying" (in their terms). grrrrrr!!!!
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slacker607
Apr 24, 2005, 5:26 AM
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man do i love askmen.com, their information on rock climbing is even better then their advice on women!
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coldclimb
Apr 24, 2005, 8:03 AM
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This thread has given me a new idea for a photo. Thanks all!
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butterflyinthewilderness
Apr 24, 2005, 12:23 PM
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"Your legs and arms must be strong enough to lift your own weight and carry you to the top of the mountain."
It does help when you can walk yes.
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gearsighted
Apr 24, 2005, 1:10 PM
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In reply to: Whether you want to impress a girl, find a new hobby, or plan on someday climbing Mount Everest |
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lvclimbingbum
Apr 24, 2005, 3:22 PM
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I just emailed askmen.com about this article 8^) . Here's what I wrote.
In response to the article written by Steve Richer, named "How To: Go Rock Climbing How To: Go Rock Climbing," I'm writing to you. I (and we, the climbing community), find it very misinformational, and that if someone who has never taken lessons or has no knowledge what-so-ever of rockclimbing could be put in a very serious and possibly dangerous position.
Even though some of the info in the article is true, most of it is not; quote "This method consists of climbing small boulders without any equipment. Basically, it's like hiking with some obstacles thrown in." Again if someone who read some pieces in here and followed them, they could be injured. I appreciate that you wrote, "This article should not be considered a substitute for a full-day class with a reputable instructor, but it's the perfect place for you to be introduced to rock climbing," but you should check your info before posting something like this. Maybe somebody played a joke on Mr. Richer, but you need to check your info. Thanks.
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sanguineclimber
Apr 24, 2005, 4:04 PM
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In reply to: Finally, you need to master knot tying. The five most common knots used in climbing are: bowline, Dutch marine bowline, figure-of-eight, figure-of-nine, and the tape/water knot.
Is there really a figure-of-nine knot? Also, wtf is the dutch marine bowline? I've never heard of these :roll:
:lol: what a funny article. It makes me want to write bs like that and try to get it published.
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hex
Apr 24, 2005, 4:46 PM
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In reply to: In reply to: Finally, you need to master knot tying. The five most common knots used in climbing are: bowline, Dutch marine bowline, figure-of-eight, figure-of-nine, and the tape/water knot. Is there really a figure-of-nine knot? Also, wtf is the dutch marine bowline? I've never heard of these :roll: .
Just because you havent heard of them doesnt mean they don't exist, the "dutch marine bowline" is a varient of the normal bowline. The figure-9 knot is similar to a figure-8 but with an extra half turn before the follow through, hard to explain... try google
These defenitely aren't the five most common knots, well three common out of five...
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jt512
Apr 24, 2005, 5:25 PM
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In reply to: In reply to: I Have sent them this e-mail, and i think everyone else should send them one too. "Being a climber myself, I would like to complain about your article, and offer some advice. 1. Bodybuilding is not necessary for rock climbing, nor is it necessary to be able to lift your own weight. 2. Hiking is not a large part of rock climbing, but there is usually a short walk to the base of a cliff. 3. It is good to be afraid of heights, as then you will be more determined not to fall. 4. Rock climbers do not climb mountains, mountain climbers do. 5. The dutch marine bowline and figure-of-nine are not accepted rock climbing knots. 6. Full safety climbing is actually called top-roping. The person on the ground is called a belayer, and does not pull on the rope to make it easier for you, they hold it using a friction creating belay device such as an atc or a grigri so that when you fall, you do not hit the ground. 7. Bouldering is really not hiking with obstacles. Bouldering is usually a climb with only a few moves, low to the ground, that are usually really hard. 8. You do not see free climbing in movies. If you think that a movie has good climbing advice, you should not be climbing. 9, Most of the best climbers in the world solo. 10. Belaying is the act of holding the rope for the other climber, weather you be top roping, sport climbing, aid climbing, trad climbing or ice climbing. 11. In addition to what you have listed for supplies, you also need a belay device, Helmut, about 50 feet of tubular webbing, and many other things .But you must also stress that you should not be using any of this gear without the training and supervision of an experienced climber. 12. Yosemite decimal system goes up to 5.15 13. You will not find good climbing locations in the yellow pages, as most of them are not businesses. 14. Rappelling is never safe and easy, no matter how much training you have. This is the part of the climb when most climbers get killed. 15. Raising your arms higher than your head is less exhausting, because than you can hang on straight arms, not using any of the muscles in your arms. 16. it is not always possible to have contact with the rock in three places. 17. small footsteps usually set you up for big footsteps. 18. If you climbed like Sylvester Stallone, you would be dead. I please ask, and on behalf of rock climbers around the world, that you take this article offline before people get themselves hurt or killed. -- Cam Tardi" Their address is generalsports@askmen.com I think many folks would take exception to your first two comments. Although true body building is not necessary, weekly workouts are essential to improving your climbing strength and stamina.
Dude, try and follow along with what sport physiologists and kinesiologists have learned in the last 100 years or so about training. Ctardi is right and you are wrong. Bodybuilding is not only unnecessary for climbing, but it is undesirable, as it is utterly non-climbing-specific. Weekly workouts pumping iron will do little to improve your climbing "strength and stamina."
In reply to: There is a pictue of Bacher in this months issue of R&I showing him do chin-ups with weights strapped to his body. Sure looks like strength training to me.
What year is that picture from, and why do you think Bachar really knew much of anything about effective and efficient training for climbing. Know any top climbers who train on a Bachar ladder these days?
Now if you want to take issue with one of ctardi's points, try the one about needing 50 feet of tubular webbing.
-Jay
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jt512
Apr 24, 2005, 5:32 PM
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In reply to: In reply to: j_ung, no kidding. I guess he shouldn't have written a s--- article. He probably would been okay if it hadn't been posted here... Oh, heh, yea, I use a bowline most of the time too. OK, I stand corrected -- apparently a few folks do use a bowline after all. Mea culpa.
Yeah, like everyone in Europe, and plenty of people in North America, too (including me).
-Jay
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jeep4evr
Apr 24, 2005, 7:07 PM
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HA HAA! The joke is on Steve!! I don't get my climbing information from him, I go straight to Ask the NOOB! NOOB.. yeah he ain't no boob!
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brokenarmboy19
May 14, 2005, 8:32 AM
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Yes i just got my new belay slave and suction cups to put on my rack
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clmbr121
May 17, 2005, 10:16 PM
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OK, now that's just funny!
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slablizard
May 17, 2005, 10:36 PM
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LOL!
BEst post ever!
Did anybody got a response email? Please post it! lol!!!!
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soonerlover49
Nov 13, 2005, 4:01 AM
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You can?! Haha..well, cool you go to OU I assume....I am going to send you a message now..
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cthulu
Nov 14, 2005, 2:22 AM
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Perhaps the funniest topic ever was made a lot more humorous by its resurrection after 5 months with this post:
In reply to: You can?! Haha..well, cool you go to OU I assume....I am going to send you a message now..
i am just so confused
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johnwesely
Nov 22, 2009, 12:02 AM
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Sorry about reviving this thread. I decided that I was in need of a good laugh, so I read the askmen.com climbing article because it is such a crowd pleaser. I discovered, much to my horror, that they changed the article and removed most, if not all, of the good stuff. what a sad day. I blame all the people who wrote the editor.
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colatownkid
Nov 22, 2009, 12:23 AM
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johnwesely wrote: Sorry about reviving this thread. I decided that I was in need of a good laugh, so I read the askmen.com climbing article because it is such a crowd pleaser. I discovered, much to my horror, that they changed the article and removed most, if not all, of the good stuff. what a sad day. I blame all the people who wrote the editor.
Indeed they did. But they left this gem:
"Translation: If you get into climbing, you are likely to meet many hard-bodied members of the opposite sex."
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