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dirtneye
May 31, 2005, 2:15 AM
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I fell 14 feet once, but did not survive.
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ledavis23
Nov 23, 2005, 1:25 AM
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Ok, off the subject of Dan Osman-
Apparently the longest survived falls were out of airplanes. The next question naturally is 'how long would you have to contemplate your imminent death on the way down?'
For you guys who actually know how to calculate this, let's say it's from a height of 30,000'
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canrocker
Nov 23, 2005, 1:37 AM
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Very quick math done in my head: about three minutes. Three whole minutes of thinking time. ("Shit, this might hurt.")
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sbaclimber
Nov 23, 2005, 1:49 AM
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In reply to: Very quick math done in my head: about three minutes. Three whole minutes of thinking time. ("s---, this might hurt.")
I am just wondering if while thinking, "shit, this could hurt" would anyone be debating on trying to land on their head to minimize the amount of pain (but pretty much guarentee death), or some other way (causing more pain, but increasing the very slim chances of survival)?
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outsideguyzak
Nov 23, 2005, 1:54 AM
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my personal longest fall was 40-45 feet off of a rope swing. All my friends that saw it said I landed on my head and rolled down the hill, a tree finally stopped my rolling. I had a concussion, but i walked away when i regained conciousness. LUCKY....
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outsideguyzak
Nov 23, 2005, 1:57 AM
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my personal longest fall was 40-45 feet off of a rope swing. All my friends that saw it said I landed on my head and rolled down the hill, a tree finally stopped my rolling. I had a concussion, but i walked away when i regained conciousness. LUCKY....
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logixsr79
Nov 23, 2005, 2:04 AM
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I just fell down the steps leading into the garage :) slammed the floor real hard but got up and walked away... damn where was my safety gear...
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roshiaitareya
Nov 23, 2005, 2:11 AM
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I think if you're falling from an airplane you'd be spinning out of control and not able to position yourself. I'm sure the trauma would be enough to make it so you don't really realize what's going on. I mean I've never fallen out of an airplane before, but you know, I fell out of a tree when I was little, and I was in the air for at least .2 seconds and I couldn't think of much.
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lazide
Nov 23, 2005, 2:30 AM
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Here is some skydiving info for everyone following this thread and seeing the numerous references:
Terminal velocity of a stable (belly to earth 'boxman' position) human generally runs around 110-140mph (big skinny people fall slower than fat short people, etc), but speeds vary WILDLY based on body position, and as anyone who has tried can attest, people who are unstable (rolling/flipping/whatever) are ALL over the place. I think the current speed record is 300MPH+, and is not uncommon for speeds as low as 80MPH during certain maneuvers.
General rule of thumb for fall times is: 10s for the first thousand feet (you reach terminal velocity around 450ft or so), 5.5s for every thousand feet after that. The higher you are, the faster your terminal velocity will be (all else being equal) due to less drag (and the times will be shorter)
A trained skydiver can easily modify his fall rate, direction of travel, body position, etc - however untrained people tend to fall in a 'turtle' position, back down with feet/hands flailing, and often have signifigant spins. uncontrolled barrel rolls and flips are also pretty common.
Jumps from 12-16,000 ft are pretty routine, and require no supplemental oxygen or special equipment (though 16k is cutting it close oxygen wise for many people). Higher jumps need oxygen and often special warm jumpsuits due to the extreme cold and risk of hypoxia (not enough oxygen). People often jump from 30,000 ft, but it is far from routine due to the harshness of the enviroment. (your blood, however, is at no risk of 'boiling' at that altitude).
Jesse Brown
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tgreene
Nov 23, 2005, 2:35 AM
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Actually, I think one of our own current member's (and I've climbed w/ this person) ranks waaaaaaay up there in terms of a roped fall... :shock:
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billcoe_
Nov 23, 2005, 7:08 PM
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OK, I haven't read the whole "what is the longest survived fall thread, but I want to add this to the mix.
One time, while on maneuvers with the Luftwaffe, I was sitting in a mobile computer truck pounding down Orange Schnapps with the comrades. When I left the truck, between it being dark and me being blind drunk, I stepped off the 4 foot high deck, missed the stairs and in one single graceless maneuver - flopped face down in the mud.
survived it too.
That was my 2nd longest survived fall, the other being approx 80 feet which knocked me unconcious, but isn't as interesting so I'm not telling that one.
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superbum
Nov 25, 2005, 6:13 AM
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I fell in love once.....been falling for a year and a half now...pretty long fall if you ask me!
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alvinswill
Nov 25, 2005, 6:54 AM
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Mark Hesse fell down the Japanese Couloir from just below the snowfield that links it to the Hornbein. Anyhow he went the distance and his partners thought he was a gone. When they found him at the bottom (or close to it) he was dazed and had hurt his nose. He is fine today and still climbs. I think he may have the record.
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icarus_burned
Nov 25, 2005, 10:44 AM
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the air hostess would probably have been unconcious for the first and probably last part of her fall from cold and shock and oxygen deprivation, she may very well have bounced like a baby dropped from a window
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themightyjimbo
Nov 25, 2005, 1:27 PM
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yeah, but what's the longest fall YOU survived, why did you fall, and what would have prevented it?
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Jan 24, 2006, 1:19 PM
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Sounds good.I Have my second birthday today.I fell 500meters from the Ortler (1200m Norh Face) in Alps with avalanche in 2003. Ca 100meters was Big Air from rock band.It was pretty long time.I saw where i´m going and i wish be on some other place-the gully on my right hand, it was not so steep, but i jump from rockband.
No scream, i was quiet and feel free, thinking-So that is.Then i hit the ground, lost breath, seeing stars, and feeling the avalanche is still moving.
When i stopped and dig myself out. i was wondering New World and i stay unbroken.It was Lucky?
I think You can´t swim.You will feel like Cricket in Washmachine. :shock:
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Jan 24, 2006, 2:46 PM
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In reply to: I believe that Dan Osman has set some records of roped falls. The one that I know of was (very roughly) 1100' on nothing but climbing gear, more than factor 1 fall.
That would have been his record jump...except he went about 1250' and hit bottom. RIP Dan.
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In reply to: my personal longest fall was 40-45 feet off of a rope swing. All my friends that saw it said I landed on my head and rolled down the hill, a tree finally stopped my rolling. I had a concussion, but i walked away when i regained conciousness. LUCKY....
In reply to: my personal longest fall was 40-45 feet off of a rope swing. All my friends that saw it said I landed on my head and rolled down the hill, a tree finally stopped my rolling. I had a concussion, but i walked away when i regained conciousness. LUCKY....
But ever since that knock on your head you always repeat everything you say twice?
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gt29905
Jan 24, 2006, 4:35 PM
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:shock: I find this thread profoundly disturbing. I think it's messing with me because it really illustrates the narcissistic and self destructive tendencies that inspire this community, that I am a part of, to play around with death. Weird.
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reg
Jan 24, 2006, 5:21 PM
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sorry if i repeat - didn't read all pages but some dude slide 800' down the third flatiron and walked away - pretty skinned up though!
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jrathfon
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This winter I fell 45 feet on ice onto a tied off stubby screw in only about 2 inches of ice, touching rock. Flipped upside-down, yelled an obscenity and scared some tourists. So tied off stubbies do work, and I still use the screw.
I was climbing in Tuck's Ravine around 2001 and heard that a top-notch local ice-climber fell 800ft off the lip of tuck's, sliding on a 100 ft piece of ice he had been climbing. Survived the fall, but died in the hospital 12 hrs later.
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joergb
Sep 11, 2006, 8:19 PM
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Some time ago, I was interested in a similar question, but not the highest survived fall, it was the LD50 height (height, where about 50% of the climbers die) which I wanted to find out. So I reviewed all the accident information I could get from my local climbing area (Elbsandstein) back to 1883, and compiled it to a graph:
http://db-sandsteinklettern.gipfelbuch.de/bilder/sturzhoehe.gif
The black part of the bars are the ones who not survived. From this, I would estimate the LD 50 height to about 25m. Although survival rate decreases with increasing height, the dependency is not too strong. Apparently it depends also much on how you fall and what the cratering zone looks like.
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krusher4
Sep 11, 2006, 9:06 PM
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Nice, you did this all on your own?
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joergb
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Last year I fell about 50 feet. I say about. My belayer and I were both in shock and the only actual witnesses. We are not completely sure I decked. The best guess is that I did, but with a little slowing by the rope. Probably just enough to correct my position before impact. I broke the helmet on some rock on the way down, scratched my arm pretty badly, got a small scratch on my ankle, but other than that, not much injury to report. No broken bones.
I'll say this though. 50 feet or 50,00feet, I don't care. It sucked and I wouldn't do it again on purpose.
Still climbing though. Rock on!
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