You could actually go one step further and blame the scientists for making us the weakling soceity that we are. Filtered water ... ha!

But really, I think many of our scientific advancements have contributed to (yes I know it's cruel) people with "not so great genes" living and producing offspring to carry on that gene. Of course it seems terribly inhumane to even consider having a family member die because of a cold or a flu and be okay with it. However,if you went back a 100 years when this was just a fact of life and never changed it. We'd still be okay with it and our gene pool would be getting that much stronger. Then add intercultural and interracial mixing into that and we may even recover from our current weakling status.

dont get me wrong, i still think you should have to have a permit to breed.

part of the problem NOW is that the less educated you are, the more likely you are to be poor, and the more likely you are to reproduce. multiple times.

the more educated you are the less likely you are to reproduce.

dont get me wrong, i still think you should have to have a permit to breed.

part of the problem NOW is that the less educated you are, the more likely you are to be poor, and the more likely you are to reproduce. multiple times.

the more educated you are the less likely you are to reproduce.

You pompous ass. And I supposed it is a forgone conclusion that you would be granted a permit to breed.



Did you obtain that information from some exclusive ivy league poll? :roll:



OMG, Clausti, you are a living, breathing cliche'.

yes, boone, there are other factors, and i'm not even saying the education is is causational with the reproduction. It is, however, highly corrolational.

and no roofy, actually under what would be my ideal criteria i would be currently ineligable for a breeding permit. and continue to be ineligible untill i changed some things in my life.

if i get done with my hw tonight, i might take the time to look up some statistics for you rufus. however, it has been so widely publicized that i'm pretty surprised you dont already know and acknowledge the inverse correlation between educational level and average number of children. certainly there are exceptions. and i'm not implying causation. you'd have to do mad unethical studies to prove that.

however, there is a *strong* negative correlation between education level and number of kids, if any, a woman has. i would assume they didnt bother to count men in most studies since you'd be at the risk of countin the kiddies twice, ect.

I am familiar with the statistics, Clausti. It is not that I don't believe that there is a modicum of validity to some of them - more that I find your demeaning portrayal of persons, who possess less than MENSA level intellect, highly offensive.

let me be very clear here: i phrased those statistics the way i did for a reason. "level of education" or "extent of education" are NOT neccasarily the same things as actual intelligence level.


and i'm going to ask you two things. please answer them seperately.

1] by what statements did i refer to those of ANY specific intelligence level?

2] which of those statements do you find offensive?

I will answer them as one. It wasn't any particular thing that you said. It was the overall tone of the body of your statements that came across to me that way. Try reading them from the position of the people whom you are portraying, and see if you don't hear what I heard. You might be surprised. I always try to put myself in one's position, before I level such criticisms.

i'm sorry that you read things into my post that werent there.

it would have been a *lot* less typing to say "dumb ppl have more kids." but i *didnt* say that did i?

Actually, you did. I read nothing into your post. You obviously aren't aware of your attitudes about certain groups.

why dont you enlighten me.

the fact that i beleive the statistics that level of education is inversely proportional to average number of offspring means... what, exactly?

oh and as far as the negative correlation between educational level and income level... "less educated you are the more likely you are to be poor," surely you arent going to argue that.

HS dropouts make less money than HS graduates who make less money than BS degreeswho make less money than masters degrees.

why dont you enlighten me.

the fact that i beleive the statistics that level of education is inversely proportional to average number of offspring means... what, exactly?

Why are you attempting to have an intelligent discussion with someone so obviously incapable of providing that?

Curt

I`m a high school drop out that makes far more money than anyone with a masters degree.

I doubt it.

Curt

I guess so, doofus.

Curt


I guess Phil's less than subtle hint flew right over your head, Sherlock.

I doubt it.

Curt

oh jesus h crist roofy.

ON AVERAGE. just add that to the end of my speil about who makes more money.

get your panties out of a wad, dude.

Actually Curt may be correct in that my statement was far too broad. I should recant and say that I`m a high school drop out who makes far more money than some who have a masters degree. I cannot categorically state that someone with a masters degree makes more money than I. What in effect I am saying is that the lack of a masters degree has mode no difference in how much money I make or am capable of making. Nor should anyone state that an education necessarily equates that a person can make money. An education can help one make heaps of money but it does not hold true that all masters degree recipients have the necessary financial education to be able to create the necessary wherewithall to be financially independant.

I know of heaps of high school dropouts who make far more money than the Prime Minister of Australia. They have worked tirelessly to create the basis for financial independence.

I also have known of people with degrees who have made a complete mess of their financial lives.

Step outside your average educational career path and you will find people who are entrepeneurs who employ people with degrees. It is not necessary to know everything but it is necessary to know how to find out everything one needs to know to get the job done.

Henry Ford had telephones linked to the very best educated people that money could buy. He had a very basic education though.

It does not matter what your station in life is, what matters is your self motivation to advance yourself. Those on welfare can cry me a river for not getting off their butts and doing something for themselves. Quit the grog, quit the smokes, quit the drugs and start doing something for yourselves. Of course there are those with mental problems who are less fortunate than ourselves who need support but I have no pity for those who will not help themselves.