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iridesantacruz
Sep 28, 2002, 10:11 PM
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well i have boreal ace. i went to the gym today and they were fine for about an hour. then they started to hurt alittle, and closer to two hours my back of my foot started to get irritated. i was not wearing socks. when i normally wear them they are snug, but my toes are pushed together quite abit. im a size 10 and so are the shoes. so are they to tight?
chris
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wlderdude
Sep 28, 2002, 10:30 PM
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Sounds to me like you bought them to big, but I guess that is a personal thing.
If you can wear them for over an hour, you just need to break them in, they fit just fine.
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rockjock04
Sep 28, 2002, 11:34 PM
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I just paid (luckily only) 40 for a pair of shoes that are too small. I ordered them a whole size down. I literally can't stay in them for more than 2 minutes.
anyone interested in five.ten VX's size 6?
I also have a pair of boreal somethings, which fit nicely. they even make a fart sound when I take my foot out, they are so snug.
I also had another pair of shoes that I couldn't wear more than 15 minutes. Poor craftmanship. 15 bucks off ebay, no namers.
You got a descent shoe. Did you try on others?
You'll be fine
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boulderingmadman
Sep 28, 2002, 11:36 PM
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im a size 10, street shoe. i have sportiva cobras that are an 8.5(US) that made me want to cry when i first got them, but now fit like gloves. i have a pair sportiva mistrals that are aize 8(us) and just a bit baggy. i have a pair of boreal ballet golds(which i hate) size 9.5(us) and i just dont like them. and i have a pair of 5.10 v10s size 10(us) which, even after breaking them in, i cant wear for more than a half an hour without being in extreme pain. it depends on the shoe...
personally, i think your shoes will be just a touch "floppy" for you when they finally break in. buying a street shoe size can be sketchy(of course, this is opinion) because after countless hours of stretching and climbing in them, the leather will, well, stretch. but, if youre gonna be doing long trad routes with thin socks, they are probably gonna be perfect.
its all a matter of comfort and performance. what do you want the shoes to be able to do, and how long will you be wearing them without popping them off?? i primarily boulder and sport climb, so i prefer a tight, sensitive, aggressive slipper that i can pop on and off and walk around in my flip flops. its a matter of personal choice, depending on what kind of climbing you primarily do, and what sort of performance you need from your shoes...
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superbum
Sep 28, 2002, 11:41 PM
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I have the same shoes (they look pimpin' eh?) and I love them. I've had them about nine months now. When I first got them my toes really bothered me, felt like they were smashed together. I ended up loosening, and I mean Loosening, ALL of the laces before putting them on. Then I left the laces closest to the toe alone and began to tighten the shoe, and I mean Tighten, at about the fourth hole up from the toe. Make sence? That helped in the short run. As of now, the shoe has stretched a little and my toes are doin' better, but I still don't crank-tighten the "toe laces." I have some irritation at the top of my heel, but shit, nothing's perfect. Hope this helped!
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beyond_gravity
Sep 28, 2002, 11:56 PM
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Almost every company uses UK sizes (five.ten uses US, thats why it seems like your buying your shoes to big with 5.10)
you can't normally wear your shoes for an hour...at least I cant.
I can wear my trad shoes all day, but they are really floppy, I wish I got them smaller.
I'd say you got the right size if you want a comfy shoe
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boulderpaul
Sep 29, 2002, 6:37 PM
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I climb V10...
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waxman
Sep 29, 2002, 7:06 PM
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Don't worry you're fine--
My shoes are a size and a half smaller than my normal shoe size. My toes are quite squished but I don't mind. Once I'm on the rock, I don't really feel any pain.
God Luck!
Craig
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daggerx
Oct 1, 2002, 3:11 AM
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If your feet dont bleed then they are not to tight, I wear a size 11 1/2 to 12 street shoe and my climbing shoe if a 9 and I wish they were tighter. It takes a wile to get used to them, after a wile they fit like a glove. Also I think you bought them to big, you should atleast get a size smaller.
DaggerX
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lilred
Oct 1, 2002, 11:10 PM
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They're supost to hurt like hell before you break them in...
To break in a shoe:
put the shoes on and soak for 5-10 minutes
DO NOT TAKE THE SHOES OFF UNTIL THEY DRY COMPLETELY...
this usually takes a few hours, so its a good idea to go climbing while they're drying...
it hurts like HELL but if you go climbing on them, they will conform to your feet perfectly...
my rock shoes are 2.5 sizes smaller than my street shoes.
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maskokalover
Oct 7, 2002, 2:23 PM
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i have a pair of sportiva's and they are size 9, i'm size 11. They really hurt on the first run or two of the year, but after that, they feel great. They need to be really tight, you dont "buy big and grow into them" ya buy small, reallly small. at least one size smaller than your street shoes.
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gorgeclimber
Oct 7, 2002, 3:04 PM
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Bottom line--your shoes don't sound like they're too tight, but it is personal preference and dependent upon how aggressive you're going to be with your climbing.
Also, each manufacturer (and brand within the manufacturer) will be sized & will fit differently. Sport shoes will stretch over time more than the stiffer-constructed trad shoe.
If you're out havin' fun on 5.9s, then a looser more comfy fit may be just fine. If you want to stick on the ledges of a 5.11, then you're going to need something more aggressive which will be less comfortable.
Tradeoffs abound. In terms of climbing performance, the only technologies that we have are food, chalk, and shoes (ok, maybe tape). Given the tremendous strides (no pun intended) in shoe technology, they are getting very specialized. I've reached the conclusion that I'll end up with several shoes for different applications.
Hope this helps....
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lobsterstickstomagnet
Oct 8, 2002, 1:45 AM
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solution=strech them
i baught my 5.10 spires 2 sizes to small, once i streched them they were perfect.
i usually wear them about 4 hours, walking around in them a bit helps get blood flowing and they dont hurt as bad, then i wearthem with socks for a few hours, then u put on 2 pairs of socks and wear them in the shower, this really help
i dont think youll have to do as much as i did but do wear them in the shower, and continue wearing them till they are compleatly dry or they might shrink
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flattracker23
Oct 8, 2002, 2:04 AM
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I have a pair of Boreal Aces too. I wear a 9 1/2 US street shoe. I bought my shoes in a UK 8 (Boreals are sized in UK sizes). That is a 1/2 size smaller than my street shoe. They were so tight at first that I could not even wear them for an hour. Now that they are broken in I can wear them for 2 hours or so.
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ajkclay
Oct 8, 2002, 2:54 AM
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Boreal Aces do tend to hurt the back of your foot, it's the way they cover the stitching with that tape, it rubs, and irritates after a while.
The size is probably OK as the Aces are not as oversized numerically as other shoes tend to be. As long as your toes are snug against the end. Aces aren't meant to crush your toes as much as other shoes,(You should see the shape of my toes after wearing Dominators ) but what you report sounds OK. Don't go stretching them, or soaking them, or you will end up with a pair of floppy shoes that you can't do anything with. Let them stretch in their own good time.
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coldclimb
Oct 8, 2002, 2:55 AM
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I've got boreal aces too, and they rubbed a bit the first few times I used them in a long time. After one use, they didn't rub the next time I went. I think you just need to get your feet used to them.
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tanner
Oct 9, 2002, 6:09 AM
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My street shoes are 11 my climbing shoes(5.10) are 8.5 I wish they where a little tighter. Its all about prefrence. I think my shoes are comfortable. But I wouldn't say there comfortable like a par of fuzzy mocasins. Comfortable = I'm not crying
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old_school
Oct 10, 2002, 2:45 PM
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Buy smaller shoes next time, they can never be to tight.
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holmeslovesguinness
Oct 10, 2002, 11:50 PM
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I'd take all the advice about getting climbing shoes more than one size down from your street shoe size with a grain of salt. It's really a matter of what kind of climbing you plan on doing. If you don't know what you like yet, stick with a comfortable, snug fitting all around shoe that has good support (like your Aces). Nothing will kill your climbing buzz quicker than having your feet in mortal agony.
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arron
Oct 12, 2002, 10:43 PM
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I dont know what you all think bu ti take a size 7 USA size in street shoes and i were a size 5 1/2 USA climbing shoe that is like 37 i think and i can last an hour
because the worlds not flat climb on
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grigrigirl78
Oct 13, 2002, 12:45 AM
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I buy my shoes exactly 2 sizes smaller than my reg. shoe size. It's a little painful for a couple of days but within a few weeks they are a dream! It's more a preference on how you like your shoe to fit. I like mine nice and snug and no socks!
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curt
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There is no "right" answer to this. If you think your shoes are too tight--they may be. Or, the shape of that shoe may not be a good match to the shape of your foot. Try on some larger shoes of the same kind, and also a few others that have different last shapes. Unfortunately, this is largely a trial-and-error process.
Curt
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danp
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I just bought a pair of the aces as well. I got them in US 11.5 and I wear a size 12 street shoe. They are TIGHT! I climbed in the gym with them yesterday and had to take them off after about 20 minutes. I put them back on after about 5 minutes and then wore em for another 20 minutes. The thing is that while they seem like they would help my climbing, they actually kinda hurt it because it made me not want to use the toe of the shoe at all. I'm hoping they stretch out some. If I would have bought an 11, I don't think I would have been able to get my foot in the shoe.
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coloradoclimber
Oct 15, 2002, 4:56 PM
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Too tight, Thats IMPOSIBLE!
If your shoes are new and there too tight try heating up some water( a littlte less than a boil) poor it in the shoes than put them on and walk around till the water is gone.
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nbrown
Oct 15, 2002, 5:12 PM
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I wear a 10 in regular shoes but my climbing are 8. you just have to get used to them.
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