Sure enough, I too was cheering for the 49ers. But it's never too late to change. We're not talking about putting asterics next to the Yankees WS wins in the last decade, we're just saying from now on they shouldn't have that financial edge.

I see and agree in part. There has been a management shift which reaches to management itelf. I can't believe how often coaches are switched up these days and the impact that must have on team chemistry probably leads to more egocentrism and players ill-loyalty that we see today.

Your point about Young however is kind of hindsight is 20/20. It's hard to say how players will perform in the spotlight and until Young really was given the chance we didn't know he'd be such a star. Who's to say there's not another Steve Young waiting on the bench somewhere else. Seems like not too long ago they benched hall of fame hopeful Drew Bledsoe for some no name sixth rounder. You may have heard of Tom Brady?

The problem with hating the Yankees for spending all that money is that I'd have to hate the Mets, too. And Boston fans can't use that reason either. Instead, I hate the Yankees because I was brought up to do so. And because they deserve it.

According to multiple league sources, the practice of surreptitiously recording a foe is commonplace. A former Patriots cameraman told the Herald as much on Tuesday.

“I can tell you this happens all the time,” he said. “I guarantee you the Jets and everybody else are doing it, too.”

Similarly, a Packers official admitted part of the reason the team didn’t file a complaint against the Pats even after catching them with a camera last November was because “everyone does it.”

The difference, multiple sources said, is that the Patriots’ breach was overwhelmingly egregious.

“When we call in our defenses, we work really hard to keep other teams from getting (the signals),” Chargers coach Norv Turner said.

Just in case we lose focus here:

I've said it before, what the Pats did was dead wrong. They got busted and punished. They should have been.
However,

That's it in a nutshell. Mangini knew his ex-boss would be doing it, because he used to be a party to it. He wanted Belichick knocked down a peg. The Competition Committee wanted ammunition to get two more votes to approve defensive helmet speakers. They were only too happy to run with Mangini's inside info.

What I do find comical is the NY Post columnist who opened with "Although the Patriots probably would have beat the Jets Sunday even without videotape assistance..." and all the Jets fans saying that the league should forfeit the win for the Pats because "Who knows what would have happened..."

We Know what would have happened. The Patriots would have won 38-14. The guy didn't have a live video link to the sidelines. And he wasn't relaying audio calls because he had no audio recording devices. The Patriots may fully have intended to cheat at halftime, but they never got the chance because the tape never made the locker room. What happened that Sunday was the sole result of whatever skills and game planning those two coaches went in with. Whatever "Halftime adjustments" were made were done without benefit of video.

Really, the Pats got off easy, probably because they're only guilty of ATTEMPTED cheating, like a lesser sentence for attempted murder.





That last line was tongue -in-cheek, btw.

The penalty:

http://www.nfl.com/...deo&confirm=true

"The commissioner also ordered the team to give up next year's first-round draft choice if it reaches the playoffs and second- and third-round picks if it doesn't. If the Patriots lose their first-rounder next season they still will have a first-round pick, obtained from San Francisco in the deal that brought Moss from Oakland."

Does anybody else feel dupped by this? I think they should lose both first round picks.

Yeah but the real issue isn't just about the Jets game. It's about the possibility of the Pats cheating for a while, including when they won all those superbowls. You make a good point though, in that they weren't caught in the act during those games so how can they prove anything?

Should Ricky Williams be given another chance in the NFL? If yes, then would you want him on your team?

And if those topics don't work:

Like with Vic, if he pays his debt to society he's entitled to try and make a living. Football's his profession so he should be allowed a shot.

With Vick it will be interesting to see if a fan base will be willing to accept him. People in this country seem to really like dogs, for the most part.

People have accepted back guys with vehicular manslaughter convictions. Like anything, some people will and some people won't. A lot of them only care about results.

hmmm, pats just kicked some ass...

Cheating helps.

Bitter?

Cheating helps.

lemming....

Cheating helps.