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mar_leclerc
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Can we have a forum for people who love solo and free-solo climbing? Its hard to find and have discussiond with other free-soloists on-line.... just a thought!
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angry
Aug 21, 2008, 4:09 AM
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I would support the idea of a solo forum but only if it only allowed one person in at a time. You know, for purity.
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bender
Aug 21, 2008, 4:10 AM
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do you really think a designated coral is going to lure more of the type of posters your wishing to converse with, into online dialogue?
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zeke_sf
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bender wrote: do you really think a designated coral is going to lure more of the type of posters your wishing to converse with, into online dialogue?
Those things are endangered and human contact with them isn't advised. I'd go with a corral, personally.
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mar_leclerc
Aug 21, 2008, 4:39 AM
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you guys seem so against solo climbers... is that cuz we dont need special ger to help us climb.... r u guys jealous or somethuing cuz you dont have be jerks cuz I made a suggestion
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zeke_sf
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mar_leclerc wrote: you guys seem so against solo climbers... is that cuz we dont need special ger to help us climb.... r u guys jealous or somethuing cuz you dont have be jerks cuz I made a suggestion
Whoa, mate. You are retarded. Seek help.
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mar_leclerc
Aug 21, 2008, 4:43 AM
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wtf is your problem....???
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zeke_sf wrote: bender wrote: do you really think a designated coral is going to lure more of the type of posters your wishing to converse with, into online dialogue? Those things are endangered and human contact with them isn't advised. I'd go with a corral, personally.
sounds more like a path to complicity with spelling fascist reach around antics
still perhaps our overly market rookie has a point
what was the question you were having trouble getting answers for grasshopper?
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zeke_sf
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mar_leclerc wrote: wtf is your problem....???
It's your inability to comprehend that nobody came down on soloing that is the problem.
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mar_leclerc
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angry wrote: mar_leclerc wrote: you guys seem so against solo climbers... is that cuz we dont need special ger to help us climb.... r u guys jealous or somethuing cuz you dont have be jerks cuz I made a suggestion There is nothing defensible about free solo climbing. I can't think of a single argument supporting soloing that doesn't rely on a blindfold made out of ego.
its fun and makes a greater challenge to overcome... it is also fast and efficient and doesnt require other climbers in your area... you also dont have to trust your life to anyone but yourself (i dont care about that last one, I usually climb with a partner)
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mar_leclerc wrote: you guys seem so against solo climbers...
your mistake
experience climbers have no problem with solo climbers
we have exposure to them and thus, we know they are mostly a tight lipped crowd
dialogue between them isnt going to increase their numbers, or the survival odds of those who pine after recognition as your surviving soloist is perdominantly loath to
perhaps er could pass on one of your better worded questions?
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angry wrote: mar_leclerc wrote: you guys seem so against solo climbers... is that cuz we dont need special ger to help us climb.... r u guys jealous or somethuing cuz you dont have be jerks cuz I made a suggestion There is nothing defensible about free solo climbing. I can't think of a single argument supporting soloing that doesn't rely on a blindfold made out of ego.
It's funny because it's true.
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mar_leclerc wrote: angry wrote: mar_leclerc wrote: you guys seem so against solo climbers... is that cuz we dont need special ger to help us climb.... r u guys jealous or somethuing cuz you dont have be jerks cuz I made a suggestion There is nothing defensible about free solo climbing. I can't think of a single argument supporting soloing that doesn't rely on a blindfold made out of ego. its fun and makes a greater challenge to overcome... it is also fast and efficient and doesnt require other climbers in your area... you also dont have to trust your life to anyone but yourself (i dont care about that last one, I usually climb with a partner)
If you're soloing a route, you have no safety other than your skills and strength. Betting your abilities are sound with your life = pretty freaking egotistic. Arguing that it's not = even more egotistic.
Tell me I'm wrong. I dare you.
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mar_leclerc
Aug 21, 2008, 4:56 AM
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dont get me wrong.. i love climbing with partners... i usually do. soloing is just a fun thing I do when im feeling bold, want a challenge or have no one to climb with.... i also am refering to climbing un-roped even if you are with other people.. not neccesarily being alone
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mar_leclerc
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okay... i guess you guys are all perfect and im an egotistic retarded moron....... now shut the fuck up and give some real feedback. not complaints against soloing
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This story has a surprise ending...
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Its called Supertopo. Check it out.
DMT
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dingus wrote: Its called Supertopo. Check it out. DMT
Dammit dingus, I'm having fun hazing the new guy. Don't distract him, he should figure it out any minute now.
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mar_leclerc wrote: okay...im an egotistic retarded moron....
This is exactly right.
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mar_leclerc
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arent you guys badass... picking on a 15 year old kid making a suggestion..... i think ill stick to cascadeclimbers.com now.... less of you old fatasses
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mar_leclerc wrote: Can we have a forum for people who love solo and free-solo climbing? Its hard to find and have discussiond with other free-soloists on-line.... just a thought!
No, we can't, it's against item 3-b, paragraph 12 of the RC.com charter.
Unless you can buy out the union, you can't have a discussion without being called a n00b.
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mar_leclerc wrote: arent you guys badass... picking on a 15 year old kid making a suggestion..... i think ill stick to cascadeclimbers.com now.... less of you old fatasses
old?
better know your bootnails from your munter hitche before you try starting dialogue over there
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zeke_sf
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mar_leclerc wrote: arent you guys badass... picking on a 15 year old kid making a suggestion..... i think ill stick to cascadeclimbers.com now.... less of you old fatasses
We have not yet begun to pick on you.
Wait! Come back! Damn... Finding another retard of your caliber will be difficult.
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mar_leclerc wrote: you guys seem so against solo climbers... is that cuz we dont need special ger to help us climb.... r u guys jealous or somethuing cuz you dont have be jerks cuz I made a suggestion
Special ger!! I want some special ger... maybe I'd climb better... and I know free-soloists are the coolest people alive and therefore would win every spelling bee they were ever in but... I remember somethuing being spelled different... specifically without the unnecessary 'u' in there... is it a silent 'u'? ... hmm... If I wasn't spending all my time using all that silly pussy ger of mine, I might have time to check out a dictionary myself... or somethuing... :)
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zeke_sf
Aug 21, 2008, 5:24 AM
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Hey, everybody! I'm only 12! Viva la revolucion?
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Aug 21, 2008, 5:25 AM
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mar_leclerc wrote: arent you guys badass... picking on a 15 year old kid making a suggestion...
Does mommy know that you post here--and that you are getting your ass handed to you by adults?
Curt
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mar_leclerc wrote: arent you guys badass... picking on a 15 year old kid making a suggestion..... i think ill stick to cascadeclimbers.com now.... less of you old fatasses
You mean theres a site with an even younger and more immature base. What the F**k am I wasting my time here for. I'm off to the cascades.
Pfffft...
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salamanizer wrote: mar_leclerc wrote: arent you guys badass... picking on a 15 year old kid making a suggestion..... i think ill stick to cascadeclimbers.com now.... less of you old fatasses You mean theres a site with an even younger and more immature base. What the F**k am I wasting my time here for. I'm off to the cascades. Pfffft...
hows their forum for route manufacture?
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bender wrote: salamanizer wrote: mar_leclerc wrote: arent you guys badass... picking on a 15 year old kid making a suggestion..... i think ill stick to cascadeclimbers.com now.... less of you old fatasses You mean theres a site with an even younger and more immature base. What the F**k am I wasting my time here for. I'm off to the cascades. Pfffft... hows their forum for route manufacture?
forums on route manufacture? I heard all those cascade climbers guys chipped routes all the time.
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So, Uh. Is that a NO to dedicating a thread for soloists to spray about how cool they are for soloing?
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angry wrote: mar_leclerc wrote: angry wrote: mar_leclerc wrote: you guys seem so against solo climbers... is that cuz we dont need special ger to help us climb.... r u guys jealous or somethuing cuz you dont have be jerks cuz I made a suggestion There is nothing defensible about free solo climbing. I can't think of a single argument supporting soloing that doesn't rely on a blindfold made out of ego. its fun and makes a greater challenge to overcome... it is also fast and efficient and doesnt require other climbers in your area... you also dont have to trust your life to anyone but yourself (i dont care about that last one, I usually climb with a partner) If you're soloing a route, you have no safety other than your skills and strength. Betting your abilities are sound with your life = pretty freaking egotistic. Arguing that it's not = even more egotistic. Tell me I'm wrong. I dare you.
^^yor rong
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mar_leclerc
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oldsalt wrote: mar_leclerc wrote: okay... i guess you guys are all perfect and im an egotistic retarded moron....... now shut the fuck up and give some real feedback. not complaints against soloing I think I understand the problem. You come across as such a hostile jerk, you must solo out of necessity. I sure as sh*t wouldn't climb with anyone with your attitude. Many of us have free soloed routes, some more than others. Also, many of us routinely solo on a rope, TR and/or lead. We know that free soloing is a personal choice and a personal experience, so WE DON'T SPRAY ABOUT IT!
I am not hostile.. im sorry if I came accross that way.. I was just ticked that you guys insulted me so much over a little suggestion.
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mar_leclerc wrote: oldsalt wrote: mar_leclerc wrote: okay... i guess you guys are all perfect and im an egotistic retarded moron....... now shut the fuck up and give some real feedback. not complaints against soloing I think I understand the problem. You come across as such a hostile jerk, you must solo out of necessity. I sure as sh*t wouldn't climb with anyone with your attitude. Many of us have free soloed routes, some more than others. Also, many of us routinely solo on a rope, TR and/or lead. We know that free soloing is a personal choice and a personal experience, so WE DON'T SPRAY ABOUT IT! I am not hostile.. im sorry if I came accross that way.. I was just ticked that you guys insulted me so much over a little suggestion.
Like I've said before, nobody actually came down on your idea. Perhaps the closest is Angry and he was just joking because he probably solos more and harder than a lot of people. READING: try it, you might like it  .
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mar_leclerc wrote: I am not hostile.. im sorry if I came accross that way.. I was just ticked that you guys insulted me so much over a little suggestion.
mar_leclerc, I am also not hostile as I write this. You had a valid idea to recommend. In another setting, it would be a terrific idea. The problem is that you have not been around here enough to understand the culture.
What I mean by "the culture" is that you are not yet one of the guys. There are other threads where people have discussed free soloing. Once you find them, read several from top to bottom. You will see three general positions: 1. Never free solo, 2. If you do free solo, don't tell anyone, and 3. Free solo and who cares who knows.
You won't find many posts telling people to do it, and I don't think there are any telling how to do it or encouraging others to do it. It is a very personal decision and a total commitment if you choose to do it.
You jumped in and stirred the water. Reviewing the existing posts would show you how strong feelings can run. Your post count identified you as a n00b. Your enthusiasm was n00bish, and your hostile reaction was very n00bish. The result was what you saw - people blasting you who normally help old ladies across streets and tithe at church. OK, maybe they don't help old ladies.
A blatant n00b needs to get a ration of crap. It's good for your soul and it can be very cathartic to the crapper. I think if you do more reading and do the search, you will find more acceptance.
To do the search, look up to the right and find the search function. Try:
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zeke_sf wrote: mar_leclerc wrote: oldsalt wrote: mar_leclerc wrote: okay... i guess you guys are all perfect and im an egotistic retarded moron....... now shut the fuck up and give some real feedback. not complaints against soloing I think I understand the problem. You come across as such a hostile jerk, you must solo out of necessity. I sure as sh*t wouldn't climb with anyone with your attitude. Many of us have free soloed routes, some more than others. Also, many of us routinely solo on a rope, TR and/or lead. We know that free soloing is a personal choice and a personal experience, so WE DON'T SPRAY ABOUT IT! I am not hostile.. im sorry if I came accross that way.. I was just ticked that you guys insulted me so much over a little suggestion. Like I've said before, nobody actually came down on your idea. Perhaps the closest is Angry and he was just joking because he probably solos more and harder than a lot of people climb with pertekshuns and a rope.. READING: try it, you might like it .
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oldsalt wrote: mar_leclerc wrote: I am not hostile.. im sorry if I came accross that way.. I was just ticked that you guys insulted me so much over a little suggestion. mar_leclerc, I am also not hostile as I write this. You had a valid idea to recommend. In another setting, it would be a terrific idea. The problem is that you have not been around here enough to understand the culture. What I mean by "the culture" is that you are not yet one of the guys. There are other threads where people have discussed free soloing. Once you find them, read several from top to bottom. You will see three general positions: 1. Never free solo, 2. If you do free solo, don't tell anyone, and 3. Free solo and who cares who knows. You won't find many posts telling people to do it, and I don't think there are any telling how to do it or encouraging others to do it. It is a very personal decision and a total commitment if you choose to do it. You jumped in and stirred the water. Reviewing the existing posts would show you how strong feelings can run. Your post count identified you as a n00b. Your enthusiasm was n00bish, and your hostile reaction was very n00bish. The result was what you saw - people blasting you who normally help oldyoung ladies across streets out of their underwares and tithe atsolo on sundays, in our own church of the holy rock. OK, maybe they don't help old ladies. A blatant n00b needs to get a ration of crap. It's good for your soul and it can be very cathartic to the crapper. I think if you do more reading and do the search, you will find more acceptance. To do the search, look up to the right and find the search function. Try: Search [Forums ] for [free solo] [Go]
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I stand krecktd, sir, may I have another?
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i have been on Cascaceclimbers for quite a while so I forgot I wasnt known on this site yet... I was posting like i would with the guys at cc.com ..... i totally wasnt thinking about my noob status here lol
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Soloing forum would be like a spurt climbing forum, not much to talk about either way.
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I'm not sure if you guys just got trolled but either way this thread is awesome. LMFAO!!!
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UPDATE: Time flys, life is still an eyeblink for us all.
stymingersfink passed passed on and Marc Leclerc is getting married.
Congrats Marc. See you all too soon Darryl.
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billcoe_ wrote: UPDATE: Time flys, life is still an eyeblink for us all. stymingersfink passed passed on and Marc Leclerc is getting married. Congrats Marc. See you all too soon Darryl.
Thanks for reviving this for the update. It was fun tag teaming with sty (Darryl). I wish I had been able to meet him in person.
IMHO: Roped soloing (TR/leading) is a personal decision, but one that is made safer by open discussion about tools and techniques. I'm glad that the subject is acceptable, with or without a dedicated thread.
Free soloing is done alone, and should not be glamorized. Neither should it be criticized, because it is such a personal thing. It is your ass on the line and your decision. That said, every climbing death harms the sport, but the risk, the Risk...
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oldsalt wrote: mar_leclerc wrote: I am not hostile.. im sorry if I came accross that way.. I was just ticked that you guys insulted me so much over a little suggestion. mar_leclerc, I am also not hostile as I write this. You had a valid idea to recommend. In another setting, it would be a terrific idea. The problem is that you have not been around here enough to understand the culture. What I mean by "the culture" is that you are not yet one of the guys. There are other threads where people have discussed free soloing. Once you find them, read several from top to bottom. You will see three general positions: 1. Never free solo, 2. If you do free solo, don't tell anyone, and 3. Free solo and who cares who knows. You won't find many posts telling people to do it, and I don't think there are any telling how to do it or encouraging others to do it. It is a very personal decision and a total commitment if you choose to do it. You jumped in and stirred the water. Reviewing the existing posts would show you how strong feelings can run. Your post count identified you as a n00b. Your enthusiasm was n00bish, and your hostile reaction was very n00bish. The result was what you saw - people blasting you who normally help old ladies across streets and tithe at church. OK, maybe they don't help old ladies. A blatant n00b needs to get a ration of crap. It's good for your soul and it can be very cathartic to the crapper. I think if you do more reading and do the search, you will find more acceptance. To do the search, look up to the right and find the search function. Try: Search [Forums ] for [free solo] [Go]
The first rule of free solo club: you do not talk about free solo club.
The second rule of free solo club is....
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dudemanbu wrote: oldsalt wrote: mar_leclerc wrote: I am not hostile.. im sorry if I came accross that way.. I was just ticked that you guys insulted me so much over a little suggestion. mar_leclerc, I am also not hostile as I write this. You had a valid idea to recommend. In another setting, it would be a terrific idea. The problem is that you have not been around here enough to understand the culture. What I mean by "the culture" is that you are not yet one of the guys. There are other threads where people have discussed free soloing. Once you find them, read several from top to bottom. You will see three general positions: 1. Never free solo, 2. If you do free solo, don't tell anyone, and 3. Free solo and who cares who knows. You won't find many posts telling people to do it, and I don't think there are any telling how to do it or encouraging others to do it. It is a very personal decision and a total commitment if you choose to do it. You jumped in and stirred the water. Reviewing the existing posts would show you how strong feelings can run. Your post count identified you as a n00b. Your enthusiasm was n00bish, and your hostile reaction was very n00bish. The result was what you saw - people blasting you who normally help old ladies across streets and tithe at church. OK, maybe they don't help old ladies. A blatant n00b needs to get a ration of crap. It's good for your soul and it can be very cathartic to the crapper. I think if you do more reading and do the search, you will find more acceptance. To do the search, look up to the right and find the search function. Try: Search [Forums ] for [free solo] [Go] The first rule of free solo club: you do not talk about free solo club. The second rule of free solo club is....
When did this^^ happen? Did I miss a bylaws vote?
I want my membership dues back!!
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billcoe_ wrote: UPDATE: Time flys, life is still an eyeblink for us all. stymingersfink passed passed on and Marc Leclerc is getting married. Congrats Marc. See you all too soon Darryl.
Hmmm getting married at 16? Sounds fishy.
I guess it was a troll. Well done Marc.
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Posts: 156
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Oh man, I can't believe I found this again! My first and only 'real' trolling attempt. I am very proud :)
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