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mar_leclerc
Aug 19, 2008, 3:31 AM
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Buy some real pro!
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rtwilli4
Aug 19, 2008, 4:36 AM
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wanna give me some money then?
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bodyboarder
Aug 19, 2008, 5:22 AM
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Gosh I know! I'm so sick of people not doing what I want them to!! Jason
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kriso9tails
Aug 19, 2008, 8:58 AM
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mar_leclerc wrote: Buy some real pro! Sport climbers like to travel light. For this reason they avoid the weighty things that trad climbers carry around like helmets, pro and bullshit excuses for not climbing hard.
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rtwilli4
Aug 19, 2008, 4:30 PM
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kriso9tails wrote: mar_leclerc wrote: Buy some real pro! Sport climbers like to travel light. For this reason they avoid the weighty things that trad climbers carry around like helmets, pro and bullshit excuses for not climbing hard. That's very true... I would love to get into trad more but it's so much gear. I spend a lot of my time abroad... and just can't be bothered to carry around a bunch of metal... much less a helmet. No, the real thing for me though is the money. I love to climb and will climb trad. whenever I get the chance, but I like to save me money for other things like driving or flying money to get to the places I like to climb.... and more importantly, becoming a citizen of another country so I can get the hell out of this one for good.
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climbsomething
Aug 19, 2008, 6:25 PM
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kriso9tails wrote: mar_leclerc wrote: Buy some real pro! Sport climbers like to travel light. For this reason they avoid the weighty things that trad climbers carry around like helmets, pro and bullshit excuses for not climbing hard. *goes into kitchen to make some popcorn*
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patmay81
Aug 19, 2008, 7:24 PM
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I thought the new trend was sport climbing ON "real pro". Examples are say cobra crack, Roddens .14d, anything climbed by Didier... You can't exactly call those trad climbs, and they are all on "real pro".
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salamanizer
Aug 19, 2008, 8:01 PM
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kriso9tails wrote: mar_leclerc wrote: Buy some real pro! Sport climbers like to travel light. For this reason they avoid the weighty things that trad climbers carry around like helmets, pro and bullshit excuses for not climbing hard. Thats a completely asinine statement. It's funny, most sport climbers don't climb hard either. Thing is, if you don't climb it all, you've missed the big picture.
"patmay81' wrote: I thought the new trend was sport climbing ON "real pro". Examples are say cobra crack, Roddens .14d, anything climbed by Didier... You can't exactly call those trad climbs, and they are all on "real pro". Exactly.
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holland11
Aug 19, 2008, 8:57 PM
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and nothing will. Sport Climbers should .........just enjoy climbing!
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kriso9tails
Aug 19, 2008, 8:59 PM
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salamanizer wrote: kriso9tails wrote: mar_leclerc wrote: Buy some real pro! Sport climbers like to travel light. For this reason they avoid the weighty things that trad climbers carry around like helmets, pro and bullshit excuses for not climbing hard. Thats a completely asinine statement. It's funny, most sport climbers don't climb hard either. Thing is, if you don't climb it all, you've missed the big picture. That was a pretty uninteresting response.
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patmay81
Aug 19, 2008, 9:06 PM
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In reply to: and nothing will I think this could be a valid discussion. what is "real pro". are bolts not "real". They do protect falls REALLY well. I know I am glad that bolts aren't just imaginary every time I clip one. Most of my favorite climbs are a mix of crack and bolted face, so does that mean the only parts I am using "real" pro on are the crack sections; or does the fact that I am clipping bolts negate the route as a "trad" climb? I personally love bolted belays, they save huge on gear- and you can't beat the quickness of a quick draw- stupid overpriced tard draws anyway! ok, im probably sounding pretty random- so i'll leave it alone for a while.
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Aceto
Aug 19, 2008, 9:16 PM
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i was sport climbing last week. no prob.
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hafilax
Aug 19, 2008, 9:26 PM
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I hear aliens are a good place to start.
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patmay81
Aug 19, 2008, 10:07 PM
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In reply to: i was sport climbing last week. no prob. so your saying you clipped a bolt (or as it would seem, seveal bolts) and it infact did act as real pro?!? you didn't die, so i guess that settles it- bolts are "real pro".
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hafilax
Aug 19, 2008, 10:18 PM
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But what do you do if the bolts aren't already there?
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stymingersfink
Aug 19, 2008, 10:30 PM
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climbsomething wrote: kriso9tails wrote: mar_leclerc wrote: Buy some real pro! Sport climbers like to travel light. For this reason they avoid the weighty things that trad climbers carry around like helmets, pro and bullshit excuses for not climbing hard. *goes into kitchen to make some popcorn* butter and light salt? hey, could you pass some over this way? Trade you a beer.
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patmay81
Aug 19, 2008, 11:35 PM
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In reply to: But what do you do if the bolts aren't already there? I either run it out, lead on aid gear, aid up or top rope. I'm not huge into sport climbing myself, but that might be because my ada keeps me from projecting. The main thing is I don't usually get caught up with technicalities like "what type of climbing is that route". If I have to clip a bolt to get up safely I'll gladly do that, if I have to plug pro that's fine too, and as a last resort I have no issues going sans rope. edited: because I'm a bit retarded when I've had a few beers.
(This post was edited by patmay81 on Aug 22, 2008, 4:50 PM)
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mar_leclerc
Aug 21, 2008, 4:00 AM
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wow.. i just wanted to see what people said in response to my silly post..... I actually sport climb myself, although I much prefer trad and alpine. Hafilax... if the bolts arent there and you are placing them on lead I consider it trad...... if you rap bolt it, its sport climbing... hanging on hooks is aid... you have to be hanging on.
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toofreakinsexy1
Aug 21, 2008, 5:32 AM
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patmay81 wrote: In reply to: I no issues going sans rope. I no issue call you coolest kid ever... Silly free-soloist (or at least on RC.com) did you fall or somethin? Keep trying... you'll get. I no doubts.
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jammer
Aug 22, 2008, 3:42 PM
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kriso9tails wrote: mar_leclerc wrote: Buy some real pro! Sport climbers like to travel light. For this reason they avoid the weighty things that trad climbers carry around like helmets, pro and bullshit excuses for not climbing hard. I climb sport to hone my skills for trad ... good practice to see where you are at. Tell me one climber that can climb harder in trad that they can in sport ...
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patmay81
Aug 22, 2008, 4:32 PM
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yeah, thanks for pointing that out... i had a few too many beers before that one! No, I would never consider myself a free soloist, I'm just not opposed to the idea of free soloing (and have only climbed a handfull of times free solo on routes I've dialed to death). again thanks for pointing out my shortcomings as a drunk typist, I be more carefull next time!
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kriso9tails
Aug 22, 2008, 5:19 PM
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jammer wrote: I climb sport to hone my skills for trad ... good practice to see where you are at. Tell me one climber that can climb harder in trad that they can in sport ... Well, I've met the odd crack addict that was not so great at face climbing, so I should think they would fall into that category, but in a more general sense I think your statement holds true.
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patmay81
Aug 22, 2008, 5:24 PM
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In my mind saying that someones sport grade is harder than their trad grade is the same as saying that people redpoint harder than they onsight.
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