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dingus
Mar 30, 2009, 7:32 PM
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Spidermite wrote: Just wondering what people were at after your first year of climbing ?
Tennessee.
DMT
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Parkerkat
Mar 30, 2009, 8:04 PM
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this statement is a little arbitrary is it not? 1-2 years sitting around watching before taking the sharp end? For serious?
There are a lot of skill involved and alot of learning, but I don't think I've ever even met a person yet who waited some arbitrary multi-year time frame before taking on sport and modest trad routes.
If its sport climbing, take a course, learn what you need to smart and safe and go...it does not take 1-2 years to do this if you are willing to learn, smart about risk assessment and learn from the right people.
Be safe!
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Upperlimits
Mar 30, 2009, 8:43 PM
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At the first year mark I was still looking at these guys in the gym bringing their own ropes wondering why they do that when there are perfectly good ropes hanging all over in the gym.
Started leading soon after that. Got very frustrated with my step backwards in grade due to leading. Got through that.
Now I'm just generally frustrated.
What really helped me was stepping it up to 3 times a week climbing. Even if it's just a short workout. That has helped me step it up. I can't help but be a grade seeker. At least I can admit it. But I still suck compared to good climbers.
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rangerrob
Mar 31, 2009, 2:05 AM
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Well dude, consider me your first one. Like I said, after scaring the shit out of myselfon Broken Sling, I decided to learnfrom someone and it was a year again before I took up the sharp end. That was the best thjing I ever could have done. I never clipped a bolt until about year 9 of climbing, so there's goes that theory. I'm sure there are many more people than you realize that do it this way.
Oh and by the way Chosshead...nice avatar picture. Can you even name the feature on the north side of the peak in it? I know I can call myself a wuss because I've been battered by the wind at the base of that route, and it scared the hell out of me. But please, tell me why YOU think I'm a wuss. The idiot part I accept however.
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angry
Mar 31, 2009, 2:28 AM
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Stop preaching weaksauce like it's right.
It might have been right for you but it's not "right".
If I found myself a beginner that I regularly got out with and s/he didn't take a lead now and then, at any level, we'd have to seriously have the "what do you want out of climbing" discussion.
You don't need to scare yourself to lead and you don't learn (much) competency on toprope.
I hope you're a texas ranger, anything else would be a joke.
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dingus
Mar 31, 2009, 3:04 PM
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In my backwoods little town, oh hell I didn't get to live in a town, any town, till I was 18 and had done flown the coop.
Anyway, there were no climbers about. None.
We had to learn 'how'd they get the rope up there' on our own, from a book. Then we proceeded to 'get the rop up there.'
Even our top roping was leading, in that sense.
There are lots of personalities in climbing. For the aggressive types, in good physical fitness with a decent head on their shoulders?
No reason at all this sort of person can't be leading STOUT routes inside one year. I'd put such a person on lead just as soon as I could talk them into it.
Don't coddle the noobs. Self-selection is the Darwinian way of rock climbing. Those who will get good at it will self-select. The rest of us just sort of muddle along through our careers - never getting 'good' but so frickin what????
DMT
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