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j_ung
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jeepnphreak wrote: bill413 wrote: climbingtrash wrote: [image]http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f277/climbingtrash/souperstron.jpg?t=1281099431[/image] Hmmm. Shouldn't the ends be seized to the standing parts for security? I have been trying out the EDK with monkey fist back up. yes it takes a lot of tail but its bomber. 
 Good stuff.
I wonder if yours is more or less likely to get stuck than the OP's knot.
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airscape
Aug 11, 2010, 7:39 AM
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bill413 wrote: jeepnphreak wrote: bill413 wrote: climbingtrash wrote: [image]http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f277/climbingtrash/souperstron.jpg?t=1281099431[/image] Hmmm. Shouldn't the ends be seized to the standing parts for security? I have been trying out the EDK with monkey fist back up. yes it takes a lot of tail but its bomber. [IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v324/jeepnphreak/P1050858.jpg[/IMG] Hmmm...doesn't look like an EDK to me...but nice double monkey's fist! Here's a thought - if you used the MF as the end of the rope knot, you definitely wouldn't rapel off the ends of your rope.
I use the monkey fist end of rope knot for single pitch sport rappels.
I haven't died once.
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johnwesely
Aug 11, 2010, 1:35 PM
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j_ung wrote: I wonder if yours is more or less likely to get stuck than the OP's knot.
Depends on if you are climbing offwidths.
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norushnomore
Aug 14, 2010, 8:51 AM
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jeepnphreak wrote: I have been trying out the EDK with monkey fist back up. yes it takes a lot of tail but its bomber. [IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v324/jeepnphreak/P1050858.jpg[/IMG]
Too funny, I woke up my kids laughing
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Aug 25, 2010, 2:16 AM
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acorneau wrote: blondgecko wrote: This is truly embarrassing - but the very first time I ever set up a rap on my own? This image shows exactly what I tied.  
Yup - I deserve that.
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horseshoe
Aug 25, 2010, 3:09 AM
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j_ung wrote: jeepnphreak wrote: bill413 wrote: climbingtrash wrote: [image]http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f277/climbingtrash/souperstron.jpg?t=1281099431[/image] Hmmm. Shouldn't the ends be seized to the standing parts for security? I have been trying out the EDK with monkey fist back up. yes it takes a lot of tail but its bomber. [IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v324/jeepnphreak/P1050858.jpg[/IMG] Good stuff. I wonder if yours is more or less likely to get stuck than the OP's knot.
No, the monkey fist back up (MFBU) is ideal when using dynamic ropes as it will bounce away from the cliff with each impact thereby lessening the chance of a stuck rope. You do have to be careful with it bouncing into the trees at the base of a climb, however. You should never use the MFBU with static rope.
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spikeddem
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blondgecko wrote: climbingtrash wrote:  This is truly embarrassing - but the very first time I ever set up a rap on my own? This image shows exactly what I tied.
Don't leave us hanging--did it hold??
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climbingtrash
Aug 25, 2010, 3:27 AM
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blondgecko wrote: climbingtrash wrote: This is truly embarrassing - but the very first time I ever set up a rap on my own? This image shows exactly what I tied.
Haha, Awesome! 
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blondgecko
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spikeddem wrote: blondgecko wrote: climbingtrash wrote: [image]http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f277/climbingtrash/souperstron.jpg?t=1281099431[/image] This is truly embarrassing - but the very first time I ever set up a rap on my own? This image shows exactly what I tied. Don't leave us hanging--did it hold??
I even got the ropes back.
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j_ung
Aug 25, 2010, 1:27 PM
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horseshoe wrote: j_ung wrote: jeepnphreak wrote: bill413 wrote: climbingtrash wrote: [image]http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f277/climbingtrash/souperstron.jpg?t=1281099431[/image] Hmmm. Shouldn't the ends be seized to the standing parts for security? I have been trying out the EDK with monkey fist back up. yes it takes a lot of tail but its bomber. [IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v324/jeepnphreak/P1050858.jpg[/IMG] Good stuff. I wonder if yours is more or less likely to get stuck than the OP's knot. No, the monkey fist back up (MFBU) is ideal when using dynamic ropes as it will bounce away from the cliff with each impact thereby lessening the chance of a stuck rope. You do have to be careful with it bouncing into the trees at the base of a climb, however. You should never use the MFBU with static rope.
Ah, I see. The old MFBU is too big to fit into a constriction in the first place plan. There's still the matter of them taking so much time to tie, though. I think I'll pre-tie mine before leaving the ground.
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airscape
Aug 25, 2010, 1:40 PM
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j_ung wrote: horseshoe wrote: j_ung wrote: jeepnphreak wrote: bill413 wrote: climbingtrash wrote: [image]http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f277/climbingtrash/souperstron.jpg?t=1281099431[/image] Hmmm. Shouldn't the ends be seized to the standing parts for security? I have been trying out the EDK with monkey fist back up. yes it takes a lot of tail but its bomber. [IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v324/jeepnphreak/P1050858.jpg[/IMG] Good stuff. I wonder if yours is more or less likely to get stuck than the OP's knot. No, the monkey fist back up (MFBU) is ideal when using dynamic ropes as it will bounce away from the cliff with each impact thereby lessening the chance of a stuck rope. You do have to be careful with it bouncing into the trees at the base of a climb, however. You should never use the MFBU with static rope. Ah, I see. The old MFBU is too big to fit into a constriction in the first place plan. There's still the matter of them taking so much time to tie, though. I think I'll pre-tie mine before leaving the ground.
Rope n00b
I can tie a monkey fist one handed, inside a nalgene bottle with the cap on or off, empty or full, with or without the monkey.....
with gloves.
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MS1
Aug 25, 2010, 9:14 PM
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airscape wrote: j_ung wrote: horseshoe wrote: j_ung wrote: jeepnphreak wrote: bill413 wrote: climbingtrash wrote: [image]http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f277/climbingtrash/souperstron.jpg?t=1281099431[/image] Hmmm. Shouldn't the ends be seized to the standing parts for security? I have been trying out the EDK with monkey fist back up. yes it takes a lot of tail but its bomber. [IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v324/jeepnphreak/P1050858.jpg[/IMG] Good stuff. I wonder if yours is more or less likely to get stuck than the OP's knot. No, the monkey fist back up (MFBU) is ideal when using dynamic ropes as it will bounce away from the cliff with each impact thereby lessening the chance of a stuck rope. You do have to be careful with it bouncing into the trees at the base of a climb, however. You should never use the MFBU with static rope. Ah, I see. The old MFBU is too big to fit into a constriction in the first place plan. There's still the matter of them taking so much time to tie, though. I think I'll pre-tie mine before leaving the ground. Rope n00b I can tie a monkey fist one handed, inside a nalgene bottle with the cap on or off, empty or full, with or without the monkey..... with gloves.
I regularly practice tying monkey's fists in a pitch-black, ice-cold shower. Someday that shit will save my life in the alpine, I am sure of it.
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avalon420
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csproul wrote: hardeight wrote: I have used this method many times in the past but it is funny how I have not seen it posted anywhere.. Tie a figure 8 knot in the end of one rope leaving a long tail. Tie another figure eight knot in the tail of the second rope. to join the two ropes tie the tail of the first rope as a follow through figure eight into the second rope and the tail of the second rope as a follow through into the first. It is like tying two ropes together with a double fisherman but you are using a figure 8 knot.. this image is as close as I can get Of course you pull both figure eight knots together as you would with a double fisherman knot then if any tail is left over secure with overhand. Looks like a good way to get a knot stuck in a crack. What advantage does this have over a EDK, a retraced figure-8, or even a double fisherman?
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