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Bad news:
I've had a lot less time to work on this site than I wanted since I became the new owner.

Good news:
I decided to quit my day job to work on RC full time. It's a bit scary because the site is not at a point where it will support a full-time person, but hopefully over the next six months that will change. If it doesn't, I'll have to get another job.

On the tech side, we're very close to having a staging server that we can test changes on. However, I don't expect fast changes--much of this work is beyond my skills and I have to rely on contractors, which is a slower process.

On the community/content side, I'll be spending more time reaching out to folks. This is where I felt I was really failing because of lack of time.

I'll also be putting a good chunk of time into reaching out to vendors about site sponsorships/advertising.

Here we go.


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Hey, man! That's great to hear.

Best of luck with the project, and please don't ban me. TIA.


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sungam wrote:
Hey, man! That's great to hear.

Best of luck with the project, and please don't ban me. TIA.
Good luck, and just ban sungam now to get it over with and save all the drama. You can reinstate him tomorrow.

[Edit to fix gibberish.]


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Donīt ban Sungam, set up a sin-bin where the bad boys can mouth of to each other and we can watch the fun from the sidelines.


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Oh wow! Best of luck!


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best wishes to you.


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JimTitt wrote:
Donīt ban Sungam, set up a sin-bin where the bad boys can mouth of to each other and we can watch the fun from the sidelines.
Isn't that all ready here, called Scummunity or Soapbox or something?


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marc801 wrote:
JimTitt wrote:
Donīt ban Sungam, set up a sin-bin where the bad boys can mouth of to each other and we can watch the fun from the sidelines.
Isn't that all ready here, called Scummunity or Soapbox or something?
Those are exclusive members-only areas now, though :3


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Jeff wrote:
Bad news:

On the tech side, we're very close to having a staging server that we can test changes on./quote]



Why not just test it on your actual server? I am sure there is enough hard drive space to support multiple reversions of the site.


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Excellent! I would hate to see the site go under. I met my husband on RC.com!!

Let us know how we can help.


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Jeff wrote:

On the community/content side, I'll be spending more time reaching out to folks. This is where I felt I was really failing because of lack of time.


Good luck!! and for the love of rock find more pictures to rotate than the same 5 we've seen on the homepage for the past year.


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I wish you luck.

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gblauer wrote:
Excellent! I would hate to see the site go under. I met my husband on RC.com!!

Let us know how we can help.

I've met a lot of great people through RC....including you Gail!


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granite_grrl wrote:
gblauer wrote:
Excellent! I would hate to see the site go under. I met my husband on RC.com!!

Let us know how we can help.

I've met a lot of great people through RC....including you Gail!

Me three! Though in all fairness, nostalgia doesn't make a good business plan for a tech company. Anyway, here's hoping you lots of luck and success with wherever you decide to take rc.com. And I, too, would be happy to pitch in and continue to help.

Cheers,

GO


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USnavy wrote:
Jeff wrote:
Bad news:

On the tech side, we're very close to having a staging server that we can test changes on.

Why not just test it on your actual server? I am sure there is enough hard drive space to support multiple reversions of the site.

He might have meant staging environment rather than actual server. In fact I'd guess the site is running on two servers: web server and database server. And setting up that kind of environment, even virtual, is a bit more than just having disk space.


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JimTitt wrote:
set up a sin-bin where the bad boys can mouth of to each other and we can watch the fun from the sidelines.

Lol. Not really cool with that--I'd like to hit reset on that part of this site's culture.

Overall, the crew here is pretty friendly (and many of you have known each other for years), but occasionally threads disintegrate into drama, and when that happens I'll delete those posts and hand out warnings/time outs. It's going to take a little bit for us to all re-calibrate so I will do my best to over-communicate and give any offenders a reasonable chance to change before perma-banning them. That said, if it becomes clear someone needs to be banned, I won't hesitate to do that.

Disagreement is totally fine (and healthy), being rude and prickly, or personal attacks or crude remarks can go elsewhere. I'm still building my "strike zone" on where the line is, so we'll just see how it goes.

I know I also talked a lot early on about having a clear vision for the site. That's another thing that I still see as very important, but didn't have the mental bandwidth to really think about while I was working on my previous job. Hopefully over the next few months that can crystalize into something more defined.


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Welcome to RC.com! May your schekles multiply like the cockroaches under my fridge! Regarding Sungum. Just pay Sungum, the man is a walking humor bag and worth every dime you pay him. Unless it's 3 dimes or more of course. Sly


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Congratulations on the loss of your job.

I have to admit that you posted about the purchase, I thought "I wonder how log till he walks away from the job(or has the rug pulled out from under)....."

I think, Jeff, that part of your R&D should be doing a roadtrip that includes RC meet 'n climbs. If you do one at the Gunks, I bet Gail and Tiffany and more than a few others would be up for it. You can park/camp for a couple days(no welcome overstaying, sorry) at my place(walking distance from cliffs). And if you have one in JT or other southwest destination between December and April, I will be up for that too.


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Jeff wrote:
JimTitt wrote:
set up a sin-bin where the bad boys can mouth of to each other and we can watch the fun from the sidelines.

Lol. Not really cool with that--I'd like to hit reset on that part of this site's culture.

Overall, the crew here is pretty friendly (and many of you have known each other for years), but occasionally threads disintegrate into drama, and when that happens I'll delete those posts and hand out warnings/time outs. It's going to take a little bit for us to all re-calibrate so I will do my best to over-communicate and give any offenders a reasonable chance to change before perma-banning them. That said, if it becomes clear someone needs to be banned, I won't hesitate to do that.

Disagreement is totally fine (and healthy), being rude and prickly, or personal attacks or crude remarks can go elsewhere. I'm still building my "strike zone" on where the line is, so we'll just see how it goes.

I know I also talked a lot early on about having a clear vision for the site. That's another thing that I still see as very important, but didn't have the mental bandwidth to really think about while I was working on my previous job. Hopefully over the next few months that can crystalize into something more defined.


See, now you're talking about censorship, which isn't cool and can be subjective, and [the remainder of this post has been deleted by Jeff]


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Jeff wrote:
JimTitt wrote:
set up a sin-bin where the bad boys can mouth of to each other and we can watch the fun from the sidelines.

Lol. Not really cool with that--I'd like to hit reset on that part of this site's culture.

Overall, the crew here is pretty friendly (and many of you have known each other for years), but occasionally threads disintegrate into drama, and when that happens I'll delete those posts and hand out warnings/time outs. It's going to take a little bit for us to all re-calibrate so I will do my best to over-communicate and give any offenders a reasonable chance to change before perma-banning them. That said, if it becomes clear someone needs to be banned, I won't hesitate to do that.

Disagreement is totally fine (and healthy), being rude and prickly, or personal attacks or crude remarks can go elsewhere. I'm still building my "strike zone" on where the line is, so we'll just see how it goes.

I know I also talked a lot early on about having a clear vision for the site. That's another thing that I still see as very important, but didn't have the mental bandwidth to really think about while I was working on my previous job. Hopefully over the next few months that can crystalize into something more defined.

Just one more opinion, but personally I don't think anything should be deleted. Giving out warnings and bans is ok, but deleting posts or parts of posts generally makes a thread really hard to follow and drives users away from a site. To be effective, you should leave the offending posts up, and post the warning in the thread itself so that everyone can see what's unacceptable and hopefully learn from that. Honestly, noone likes censorship.

I also believe that there should be some kind of a scummunity type of forum where those members who want to sit around and insult each other all day can do that without threat of being banned. This forum doesn't have to be visable on the front page, it can require users to log in to view it, and it can have a warning page about the content or whatever, but there should be a location where this is allowed (even if I probably won't participate personally).


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Appreciate you weighing in Ken.

kennoyce wrote:
Just one more opinion, but personally I don't think anything should be deleted. Giving out warnings and bans is ok, but deleting posts or parts of posts generally makes a thread really hard to follow and drives users away from a site.

Understand the concern about threads need to stay contiguous for readability, so when necessary I will try to leave a "this post deleted because it wasn't constructive" message.

kennoyce wrote:
I also believe that there should be some kind of a scummunity type of forum where those members who want to sit around and insult each other all day can do that without threat of being banned.

No on scummy forum for insulting each other. I just think that kind of culture bleeds into other parts of the site. To borrown an analogy from another sport, I'd rather folks "play the ball and the not the person."

Yes on members are allowed to jest with one another in a friendly way. There's certainly some squishy gray area between the two and some posts will have to be evaluated on a case-by-case basis.

At the end of the day, my goal is to encourage a friendly community oriented around climbing. If at any point you think I'm being heavy-handed, just drop me a PM--I'm more than happy to rethink how I handled a situation. Doesn't mean I'll always agree with you, but I will certainly re-think it and generally try to bounce it off a few other staff members for their input--I don't mind coming back and saying I made a mistake.


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I think, Jeff, that part of your R&D should be doing a roadtrip that includes RC meet 'n climbs. If you do one at the Gunks, I bet Gail and Tiffany and more than a few others would be up for it. You can park/camp for a couple days(no welcome overstaying, sorry) at my place(walking distance from cliffs). And if you have one in JT or other southwest destination between December and April, I will be up for that too.

Not a bad idea. Kristen and I are having our first baby in September, so may not be logistically feasible for a while though.

Plus I'm the first to admit that climbing with all y'all I'd feel a bit intimidated--I don't climb that often and my technique is so bad that my muscles are generally shot after one day of 5.9's... if I can even last that long.

But I'm pretty talented at sitting around and talking for the rest of the time, so it'd probably work out okay.


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Hey Jeff Congratulations , can we post video?Smile


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Jeff wrote:
Plus I'm the first to admit that climbing with all y'all I'd feel a bit intimidated--I don't climb that often and my technique is so bad that my muscles are generally shot after one day of 5.9's... if I can even last that long.
Let me tell you about the time GMBurns, Jmeizis and I took 3 days to do a 7 pitch grade III C1* tower.Laugh


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You need to rebuild your community before you worry too much about them insulting each other. Over the past 10 years or so that I've been on this site, the community has disappeared. The trouble is that the community generated the content and as they dispersed to the different sides of the internet globe you've lost your content. Get great content, let the community talk about the content (and generate new content) and then worry about policing the place again.

rc.com's cake is being eaten by sites like: http://climbing.ilooove.it/, http://climbingnarc.com/ and facebook. It's a little bit sad as it's only nostalgia and a currently boring day job that brings me back here.


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jumpingrock wrote:
rc.com's cake is being eaten by sites like: http://climbing.ilooove.it/, http://climbingnarc.com/ and facebook. It's a little bit sad as it's only nostalgia and a currently boring day job that brings me back here.
Never heard of the first one and only heard the second one mentioned once or twice. The estimated site visits in May 2014 are 190K and 170K respectively while rockclimbing.com is 310K [Source: similarweb.com]

http://www.similarweb.com/.../climbing.ilooove.it

http://www.similarweb.com/...ite/climbingnarc.com

http://www.similarweb.com/...ite/rockclimbing.com

I agree about rebuilding the community first and not getting all worked up over policing said community unless it actually becomes necessary, but the predictions of demise are a bit premature.

If anyone wants a great case study in a site's total decline into irrelevancy, look at gunks.com - a shadow of its former self with only a dozen or two remaining posters. This despite having perhaps one of the most coveted domain names in the Northeast.

The huge decline started when the web master, due to a highly charged and contentious thread (which spilled over here as well), waded in with some extremely heavy-handed "moderation", which included mass deletion of posts that he didn't personally agree with. Gee, what a surprise. There was also a promise of fixing and improving the bug-ridden software running the forums "within a month" - that was well over 2 years ago.


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marc801 wrote:
jumpingrock wrote:
rc.com's cake is being eaten by sites like: http://climbing.ilooove.it/, http://climbingnarc.com/ and facebook. It's a little bit sad as it's only nostalgia and a currently boring day job that brings me back here.
Never heard of the first one and only heard the second one mentioned once or twice. The estimated site visits in May 2014 are 190K and 170K respectively while rockclimbing.com is 310K [Source: similarweb.com]

http://www.similarweb.com/.../climbing.ilooove.it

http://www.similarweb.com/...ite/climbingnarc.com

http://www.similarweb.com/...ite/rockclimbing.com

I agree about rebuilding the community first and not getting all worked up over policing said community unless it actually becomes necessary, but the predictions of demise are a bit premature.

If anyone wants a great case study in a site's total decline into irrelevancy, look at gunks.com - a shadow of its former self with only a dozen or two remaining posters. This despite having perhaps one of the most coveted domain names in the Northeast.

The huge decline started when the web master, due to a highly charged and contentious thread (which spilled over here as well), waded in with some extremely heavy-handed "moderation", which included mass deletion of posts that he didn't personally agree with. Gee, what a surprise. There was also a promise of fixing and improving the bug-ridden software running the forums "within a month" - that was well over 2 years ago.

While I agree with you that gunks.com is a perfect case-study for how to kill a great climbing site, I disagree with your analysis of what caused its decline. With that being said, I think if you asked six different gunk.commers why the site went belly up, you'd get six different (and believable) explanations. Anyway, the relevance to this site is arguable. So I won't bother sharing mine.

GO


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Brave move.
Good luck and I hope all goes well.
Try to avoid over-moderation, most of us are big boys and girls who can roll with a few insults.


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JimTitt wrote:
Donīt ban Sungam, set up a sin-bin where the bad boys can mouth of to each other and we can watch the fun from the sidelines.

Well that was a joke but as others have commented there is a point to it. While you own the site the community makes it what it is otherwise itīs just a blog. You can only direct it in a direction WE want it to go and there is no chance whatsover you can tell a bunch of climbers what to do if they donīt want to.
Simple rules about racism, sexism etc are enough from the administrators side, the community is quite capable of either ignoring or humiliating dick-heads on its own. Watching two "adults" making fools of themselves in front of thousands is entertainment and that is all internet forums are at the end of the day.


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We'll just figure it out together here in our own little corner of the internet.

We'd all like to see the RC community thrive, but I don't see this as a zero-sum game of winning/losing compared to other sites. Over the last couple of years, a lot of people have dipped their toe in the world of climbing, particularly gym climbing, and the big question in my mind is how good of a job will we do as a sport at converting those folks into regular climbers. If we do a good job, all the climbing sites will grow in size.

I know some of you have been climbing since the dark ages and may not remember life BC (before climbing), but I still remember looking in the window at a local climbing gym and thinking "That looks fun, but I have no idea how to get started." Once I climbed a few times with friends, that moved to "Wow, everyone else is so much better than me." Even though everyone was very friendly and encouraging, there was still a voice inside my head that kept saying "scary, very scary!"

If you want the community here at RC to thrive, probably the best thing you can do is warmly welcome the n00bs when they make that first post. When they ask for the zillionth time "What pair of shoes/harness should I buy?" posting a simple "Welcome, we're glad to have you. Here's a few links to articles to learn more..." means a lot more than you think it does.

Some of these posters are hit-and-runs looking for a quick answer and will never come back, and yes, that's annoying. And many of them are asking the same questions as every other n00b, and that gets old quickly too. That's why one of my todo's is to update the articles section with answers to the common n00b questions so that our time is spent making sure the person feels welcome, not have to re-type the same answer over and over.

We get over a hundred thousand people from Google every month, so there's plenty of new blood to grow this community. The trick is to encourage these visitors to engage and become regulars. If we do that, we'll wake up in a few years and realize we have a thriving community.


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Plus I'm the first to admit that climbing with all y'all I'd feel a bit intimidated--I don't climb that often and my technique is so bad that my muscles are generally shot after one day of 5.9's... if I can even last that long.
Let me tell you about the time GMBurns, Jmeizis and I took 3 days to do a 7 pitch grade III C1* tower.Laugh

That was nothing less than C3. I saw stars on those quarter-inchers.

(and it was four pitches, including the tyrolean)


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Plus I'm the first to admit that climbing with all y'all I'd feel a bit intimidated--I don't climb that often and my technique is so bad that my muscles are generally shot after one day of 5.9's... if I can even last that long.
Let me tell you about the time GMBurns, Jmeizis and I took 3 days to do a 7 pitch grade III C1* tower.Laugh

That was nothing less than C3. I saw stars on those quarter-inchers.

At risk of derailling the thread here is a picture of one of the starbolts, in Fisher tower sandstone, with a badly cracked hangar.



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Agreed completely. It's not a zero sum game and there will always* be more than one rock climbing website around. But content is what makes a webpage and you need to generate content. (more specifically, your users need to generate content, so you need to make them happy enough to do that) It's a balancing act, which I am interested to see how well you pull off over the next 6 months or so. Good luck!



*bold prediction, I know.


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sungam wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
sungam wrote:
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Plus I'm the first to admit that climbing with all y'all I'd feel a bit intimidated--I don't climb that often and my technique is so bad that my muscles are generally shot after one day of 5.9's... if I can even last that long.
Let me tell you about the time GMBurns, Jmeizis and I took 3 days to do a 7 pitch grade III C1* tower.Laugh

That was nothing less than C3. I saw stars on those quarter-inchers.

At risk of derailling the thread here is a picture of one of the starbolts, in Fisher tower sandstone, with a badly cracked hangar.

And that was just the first one!

(a suggestion - find a way to change the code to get rid of the automatic dot on image tags when replying)


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Gmburns2000 wrote:
sungam wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
sungam wrote:
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Plus I'm the first to admit that climbing with all y'all I'd feel a bit intimidated--I don't climb that often and my technique is so bad that my muscles are generally shot after one day of 5.9's... if I can even last that long.
Let me tell you about the time GMBurns, Jmeizis and I took 3 days to do a 7 pitch grade III C1* tower.Laugh

That was nothing less than C3. I saw stars on those quarter-inchers.

At risk of derailling the thread here is a picture of one of the starbolts, in Fisher tower sandstone, with a badly cracked hangar.

And that was just the first one!

Yowzer. Don't think I'd be in a hurry on that climb either.

In reply to:
(a suggestion - find a way to change the code to get rid of the automatic dot on image tags when replying)

Thanks for the heads up, that should be a very simple bit of code as long as I can find the correct file.

Update: This is fixed now.


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Jeff wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
(a suggestion - find a way to change the code to get rid of the automatic dot on image tags when replying)

Thanks for the heads up, that should be a very simple bit of code as long as I can find the correct file.
So you're suggesting that in a multiple reply thread the same image is downloaded again and again and again and again and again....
Sure, that won't impact performance at all.


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marc801 wrote:
Jeff wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
(a suggestion - find a way to change the code to get rid of the automatic dot on image tags when replying)

Thanks for the heads up, that should be a very simple bit of code as long as I can find the correct file.
So you're suggesting that in a multiple reply thread the same image is downloaded again and again and again and again and again....
Sure, that won't impact performance at all.
I wonder how hard it would be to make it so after x appearances it would start dotting. Cuz on the one hand it is quite nice to be able to see it, but on the other it could get messy in longer chains.


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sungam wrote:
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Plus I'm the first to admit that climbing with all y'all I'd feel a bit intimidated--I don't climb that often and my technique is so bad that my muscles are generally shot after one day of 5.9's... if I can even last that long.
Let me tell you about the time GMBurns, Jmeizis and I took 3 days to do a 7 pitch grade III C1* tower.Laugh
THat is because you spent all your time BitCoin mining on your iphone.


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Plus I'm the first to admit that climbing with all y'all I'd feel a bit intimidated--I don't climb that often and my technique is so bad that my muscles are generally shot after one day of 5.9's... if I can even last that long.
Let me tell you about the time GMBurns, Jmeizis and I took 3 days to do a 7 pitch grade III C1* tower.Laugh
THat is because you spent all your time BitCoin mining on your iphone.

I thought about doing that actually (not on a phone). Doesn't seem worth it.


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Gmburns2000 wrote:
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sungam wrote:
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Plus I'm the first to admit that climbing with all y'all I'd feel a bit intimidated--I don't climb that often and my technique is so bad that my muscles are generally shot after one day of 5.9's... if I can even last that long.
Let me tell you about the time GMBurns, Jmeizis and I took 3 days to do a 7 pitch grade III C1* tower.Laugh
THat is because you spent all your time BitCoin mining on your iphone.

I thought about doing that actually (not on a phone). Doesn't seem worth it.
Are you sure? I made, then lost, a s***load of money.


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sungam wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
USnavy wrote:
sungam wrote:
Jeff wrote:
Plus I'm the first to admit that climbing with all y'all I'd feel a bit intimidated--I don't climb that often and my technique is so bad that my muscles are generally shot after one day of 5.9's... if I can even last that long.
Let me tell you about the time GMBurns, Jmeizis and I took 3 days to do a 7 pitch grade III C1* tower.Laugh
THat is because you spent all your time BitCoin mining on your iphone.

I thought about doing that actually (not on a phone). Doesn't seem worth it.
Are you sure? I made, then lost, a s***load of money.

I'm sure. You need pretty high-quality systems that can cost quite a bit of money, and really the best way to mine is to get into groups that don't necessarily guarantee that they'll split the proceeds with the folks who actually helped to mine it.

Basically, with the amount of coins available going down significantly in the next few years, you'd break even after three to four years and maybe make a couple of thousand after that until everything is mined.

And oh yeah, this doesn't include the hackers stealing the document-less cash you have in your account.


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Gmburns2000 wrote:
sungam wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
USnavy wrote:
sungam wrote:
Jeff wrote:
Plus I'm the first to admit that climbing with all y'all I'd feel a bit intimidated--I don't climb that often and my technique is so bad that my muscles are generally shot after one day of 5.9's... if I can even last that long.
Let me tell you about the time GMBurns, Jmeizis and I took 3 days to do a 7 pitch grade III C1* tower.Laugh
THat is because you spent all your time BitCoin mining on your iphone.

I thought about doing that actually (not on a phone). Doesn't seem worth it.
Are you sure? I made, then lost, a s***load of money.

I'm sure. You need pretty high-quality systems that can cost quite a bit of money, and really the best way to mine is to get into groups that don't necessarily guarantee that they'll split the proceeds with the folks who actually helped to mine it.

Basically, with the amount of coins available going down significantly in the next few years, you'd break even after three to four years and maybe make a couple of thousand after that until everything is mined.

And oh yeah, this doesn't include the hackers stealing the document-less cash you have in your account.
You ignorance is stopping you from wasting literally hundreds of dollars here, Greg.


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sungam wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
sungam wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
USnavy wrote:
sungam wrote:
Jeff wrote:
Plus I'm the first to admit that climbing with all y'all I'd feel a bit intimidated--I don't climb that often and my technique is so bad that my muscles are generally shot after one day of 5.9's... if I can even last that long.
Let me tell you about the time GMBurns, Jmeizis and I took 3 days to do a 7 pitch grade III C1* tower.Laugh
THat is because you spent all your time BitCoin mining on your iphone.

I thought about doing that actually (not on a phone). Doesn't seem worth it.
Are you sure? I made, then lost, a s***load of money.

I'm sure. You need pretty high-quality systems that can cost quite a bit of money, and really the best way to mine is to get into groups that don't necessarily guarantee that they'll split the proceeds with the folks who actually helped to mine it.

Basically, with the amount of coins available going down significantly in the next few years, you'd break even after three to four years and maybe make a couple of thousand after that until everything is mined.

And oh yeah, this doesn't include the hackers stealing the document-less cash you have in your account.
You ignorance is stopping you from wasting literally hundreds of dollars here, Greg.

I'll stay ignorant. When you cash your fortune out, though, don't forget us when you do that trip to Norway.


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tminus44 wrote:
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On the community/content side, I'll be spending more time reaching out to folks. This is where I felt I was really failing because of lack of time.


Good luck!! and for the love of rock find more pictures to rotate than the same 5 we've seen on the homepage for the past year.

Those photos are added by users. All are welcome to add them


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Jeff wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
sungam wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
sungam wrote:
Jeff wrote:
Plus I'm the first to admit that climbing with all y'all I'd feel a bit intimidated--I don't climb that often and my technique is so bad that my muscles are generally shot after one day of 5.9's... if I can even last that long.
Let me tell you about the time GMBurns, Jmeizis and I took 3 days to do a 7 pitch grade III C1* tower.Laugh

That was nothing less than C3. I saw stars on those quarter-inchers.

At risk of derailling the thread here is a picture of one of the starbolts, in Fisher tower sandstone, with a badly cracked hangar.

And that was just the first one!

Yowzer. Don't think I'd be in a hurry on that climb either.

In reply to:
(a suggestion - find a way to change the code to get rid of the automatic dot on image tags when replying)

Thanks for the heads up, that should be a very simple bit of code as long as I can find the correct file.

Update: This is fixed now.
I have mixed feelings about this fix. I liked being able to "accidentally" not include an obnoxious pic in a quoted thread


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