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Ah, the old mod duality. Both completely AFK yet locking threads simultaneously. Seemingly impossible, yet somehow happening.


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macherry wrote:
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Jeff bought the site at X price knowing Y stats and Z revenue. He probably realized that the site couldn't continue Y and Z with the vitriol on the site, so he made a decision to let the site die until he could make a decision between A and B.

A: after all the vitriol dies, try to revive an already functioning site by encouraging a new generation of content (users not necessarily the key driver), maybe make improvements, and get Y and Z back up so the site could be a long-term money maker.

B: If A isn't at least reasonable, find the balance between X and Z, and sell at a point where the sale price + Z (over time) > X.

A requires more work over time, but could generate much more cash in a growing sport. B requires timing and patience and not a lot of work, but could still turn a good profit. Both are perfectly reasonable. No one should assume that any of the owners ever cared about the people who generated content the site. It's always about the math first, and then after that the method to make whichever math work.

Jeff last logged in less than a week ago, which is a lot more recent than I expected to find after an absence of something like six months. His last post, however, was more than a year ago. The waiting continues.

word on the street says jeff is no longer the owner

wow, that didn't take long.


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Nice to see that the original "This place is dead!" thread that I started is still going strong after being locked and resurrected.

FWIW, the rc.com train-wreck has been both entertaining and sad to watch.

Over two years ago Jeff purchased this site. He made a big point of telling us how important the site culture was to him and how he and his wife were focused on “creating a good experience for users and staff” and “starting right now, we are here to support” the community. For the first few months Jeff sanctimoniously moderated where he saw fit and explained how his vision for the culture of the site “non-negotiable based on who I am as a person and what kind of site I want to be associated with.” I am not sure how happigrrrl and rokjox venting their spleens and demonstrating their mastery of online drama creation fits into Jeff’s vision. Since it is the only new content on the site, I am sure it is just what Jeff wanted.

I totally understand that this is Jeff’s site and he is free to do whatever he wants with it. However, I personally find the combination of his initial morally superior tone and professed focus on culture to be completely at odds with his current blatant monetization of the site and total lack of focus on site content or user experience. Based on what he has done with this site so far, it would appear that what Jeff says and what he actually does are two different things. Despite making this post, I have no interest in being a regular user here under the current management. I am sure I am not the only one that sees it this way.

I am off to the gym to work on rehabilitating my injured shoulder. I expect that this post will be deleted the next time I log in here.

Cheers!


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Dec 6, 2015, 10:50 AM
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macherry wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
Jeff bought the site at X price knowing Y stats and Z revenue. He probably realized that the site couldn't continue Y and Z with the vitriol on the site, so he made a decision to let the site die until he could make a decision between A and B.

A: after all the vitriol dies, try to revive an already functioning site by encouraging a new generation of content (users not necessarily the key driver), maybe make improvements, and get Y and Z back up so the site could be a long-term money maker.

B: If A isn't at least reasonable, find the balance between X and Z, and sell at a point where the sale price + Z (over time) > X.

A requires more work over time, but could generate much more cash in a growing sport. B requires timing and patience and not a lot of work, but could still turn a good profit. Both are perfectly reasonable. No one should assume that any of the owners ever cared about the people who generated content the site. It's always about the math first, and then after that the method to make whichever math work.

Jeff last logged in less than a week ago, which is a lot more recent than I expected to find after an absence of something like six months. His last post, however, was more than a year ago. The waiting continues.

word on the street says jeff is no longer the owner

wait, whaaat? What did he do? Pawn it for 200$ and a fake rolex?

And I for one, welcome our new absentee overlords


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sungam wrote:
Ah, the old mod duality. Both completely AFK yet locking threads simultaneously. Seemingly impossible, yet somehow happening.

If a thread is locked and no user is there to witness it, what sound does it make?




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ncrockclimber wrote:
I am off to the gym to work on rehabilitating my injured shoulder.
Ack, grim. What did you do? I am just finishing getting over a dumb ankle injury (I fell down the stairs while pretending to be a pterodactyl like an idiot). Injuries totes suck!


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Apparently the 1 starring stalkers were not amongst those who jumped ship.


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macherry wrote:

word on the street says jeff is no longer the owner

any word on who's the new owner?


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iknowfear wrote:
macherry wrote:

word on the street says jeff is no longer the owner

any word on who's the new owner?

Jeff has been totally silent on the issue. Not even confirming or denying anything.

GO


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cracklover wrote:
iknowfear wrote:
macherry wrote:

word on the street says jeff is no longer the owner

any word on who's the new owner?

Jeff has been totally silent on the issue. Not even confirming or denying anything.

GO

Fixed that for you.


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this is my 666 Post! where is Pinktricam to clense my metal soul


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iknowfear wrote:
cracklover wrote:
iknowfear wrote:
macherry wrote:

word on the street says jeff is no longer the owner

any word on who's the new owner?

Jeff has been totally silent on the issue. Not even confirming or denying anything.

GO

Fixed that for you.

Good fix. I was wondering, we know what happens to houses with absentee landlords. They end up with broken plumbing, salvaged copper pipes, and gas explosions. What's the equivalent for abandoned websites? Anyone knows how I can break off the chunk containing the climbing log? I kinda want to keep it as a souvenir...

As far as moderating goes, I am not moderating the bickering, sorry... because I don't see anything particularly harmful, and nobody is telling me otherwise. Carry on!


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climbers are like unidentified species where they just don't fit in to corporate mentality

They should leave them alone and let nature do its job


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cracklover wrote:
iknowfear wrote:
macherry wrote:

word on the street says jeff is no longer the owner

any word on who's the new owner?

Jeff has been totally silent on the issue. Not even confirming or denying anything.

GO

Jeff "Legend-In-His-Own-Mind" Widman still has rockclimbing.com listed as one of his "projects," though he may be no more attentive to his own website than he is/was to this one.


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lena_chita wrote:
I was wondering, we know what happens to houses with absentee landlords. They end up with broken plumbing, salvaged copper pipes, and gas explosions. What's the equivalent for abandoned websites?

Check out gunks.com :)


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jt512 wrote:
cracklover wrote:
iknowfear wrote:
macherry wrote:

word on the street says jeff is no longer the owner

any word on who's the new owner?

Jeff has been totally silent on the issue. Not even confirming or denying anything.

GO

Jeff "Legend-In-His-Own-Mind" Widman still has rockclimbing.com listed as one of his "projects," though he may be no more attentive to his own website than he is/was to this one.

looks like he's done some random things


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jt512 wrote:
cracklover wrote:
iknowfear wrote:
macherry wrote:

word on the street says jeff is no longer the owner

any word on who's the new owner?

Jeff has been totally silent on the issue. Not even confirming or denying anything.

GO

Jeff "Legend-In-His-Own-Mind" Widman still has rockclimbing.com listed as one of his "projects," though he may be no more attentive to his own website than he is/was to this one.

"I perpetually find myself with more projects than I have time."

Well, that's telling. The last big change was, "Hey, we're killing email!" Since that brought me here as much as anything I just stop in now and then. Maybe we should go back to the wreck!


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macherry wrote:
jt512 wrote:
cracklover wrote:
iknowfear wrote:
macherry wrote:

word on the street says jeff is no longer the owner

any word on who's the new owner?

Jeff has been totally silent on the issue. Not even confirming or denying anything.

GO

Jeff "Legend-In-His-Own-Mind" Widman still has rockclimbing.com listed as one of his "projects," though he may be no more attentive to his own website than he is/was to this one.

looks like he's done some random things
hi every1 im new webmaster!!!!!!! holds up spork my name is jeff but u can call me t3h PeNgU1N oF d00m!!!!!!!! lol…as u can see im very random!!!! thats why i came here, 2 amke a website random ppl like me _… im 13 years old (im mature 4 my age tho!!) i like 2 watch invader zim w/ my girlfreind (im str8 monoamory if u dont like it deal w/it) its our favorite tv show!!! bcuz its SOOOO random!!!! shes random 2 of course but i want 2 meet more random ppl and get ad revenue =) like they say the more the merrier (and more money!!!)!!!! lol…neways i hope 2 make alot of freinds here so give me lots of commentses and ad clicks!!!!
DOOOOOMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <--- me bein random again _^ hehe…toodles!!!!!

love and waffles,

t3h PeNgU1N oF d00m


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sungam wrote:
macherry wrote:
jt512 wrote:
cracklover wrote:
iknowfear wrote:
macherry wrote:

word on the street says jeff is no longer the owner

any word on who's the new owner?

Jeff has been totally silent on the issue. Not even confirming or denying anything.

GO

Jeff "Legend-In-His-Own-Mind" Widman still has rockclimbing.com listed as one of his "projects," though he may be no more attentive to his own website than he is/was to this one.

looks like he's done some random things
hi every1 im new webmaster!!!!!!! holds up spork my name is jeff but u can call me t3h PeNgU1N oF d00m!!!!!!!! lol…as u can see im very random!!!! thats why i came here, 2 amke a website random ppl like me _… im 13 years old (im mature 4 my age tho!!) i like 2 watch invader zim w/ my girlfreind (im str8 monoamory if u dont like it deal w/it) its our favorite tv show!!! bcuz its SOOOO random!!!! shes random 2 of course but i want 2 meet more random ppl and get ad revenue =) like they say the more the merrier (and more money!!!)!!!! lol…neways i hope 2 make alot of freinds here so give me lots of commentses and ad clicks!!!!
DOOOOOMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <--- me bein random again _^ hehe…toodles!!!!!

love and waffles,

t3h PeNgU1N oF d00m

Pancakes, Damn it! PANCAKES!


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markc wrote:
Maybe we should go back to the wreck!

You joke, but....

I just checked and the spam there has actually disappeared (too ancient for spammers to care about it anymore) and there are actually climbers posting there again. Oh, only once every few months, but perhaps a resurgence is right around the corner LOL!

GO


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Gah, most important edit of the pasta and I missed it like a chode


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I miss this place being what it was when I found it. Had it not been for all the guys here I would have saved alot of money and skin not climbing. but I found a place to read what I was interested in. Maybe someday this place will come back to life but with all the lurking I do I don't think it will happen.

Wish I had made more friends on here back in the day cause right now I go maybe 2-3 other climbers I talk to a few times a year.


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Grew up in a trailer while my Dad was in the military.

Being called 'trash' by someone like you is a compliment.

May an 800-pound gorilla enjoy congress with you until you expire, and if you ever give birth, I want one of the puppies.


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My mother owned a trailer after her husband died. I lived in that trailer for about half a year.

One does not become "trailer trash" simply by having resided in a trailer.

Just as a person isn't labeled "white trash" because they are caucasian or a "terrorist" because the are Muslin.

Really..... are those of you who jumped on that trailer trash bandwagon that simple, or just doing it to get a response out of me?

I assume the latter, and if you are so easily entertained, now you have your response. Have at it.


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Wow I've heard "cotton kills" but yeah I agree with you "terrorist" seems a bit intense!







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