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jbird
May 6, 2003, 7:25 PM
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:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Great story.
I love the way that he brings us to the logical inference that he found :twisted: itself down in the cave.
Could be an allegory for a lot of things. (He references rock climbing, caving, parachuting)
Actually, any type of evil vice that the thrill of it keeps you coming back until it sucks you in and you cannot get away from it????
(rock climbing would'nt be in that category)
I agree with all. Good writing regardless the obvious fakery.
"The sun is always shining, It's just your view that gets cloudy"
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acrophobic
May 6, 2003, 7:27 PM
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Yes the story is most likely a fake... there probably WAS a cave.. and they probably DID chizle out the hole to see where it goes... but probably led to a dead end... so they made up a spooky story about it..
would be cool trying to find the origonal author...
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tenn_dawg
May 6, 2003, 7:38 PM
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It's not FAKE, it's FICTION.
But it makes you think, it puts you in the shoes, and the minds of the characters, and the ending is perfect!
By leaving you hanging, and wondering what was in the cave, it is far better than it would have been with one more page.
Has anyone ever waited the entire length of a movie to see the monster, and then was incredibly dissapointed at the end when it was shown? The entire story was mystery and uncertainty. Why change gears right at the end?
And the imagery!! Can you imagine pulling up your rope from the depth of a dark cave, when suddenly it snags...then slowly starts pulling back down... Sheesh, the thought gives me shivers!
What a great story!
Travis
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jbird
May 6, 2003, 7:52 PM
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Oops sorry... I meant "Fictionry" not "Fakery" :lol:
I did find this picture
home.globaleyes.net/.../resources/ Format,%20Janet%2006.jpg
on this website
http://home.globaleyes.net/carbide/Photographs.html
Maybe this "Joe Estes" would know something about "Joe" in the story.
Then again maybe he isn't saying anything?
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jbird
May 6, 2003, 8:00 PM
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Actually there is a "Ted Mueller" as well.....hmmm
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sancho
May 6, 2003, 8:29 PM
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I liked the story (where is the freaking ending :evil: ) but was left with a nagging question about the pictures inserted throughout the text...
How did the guy take the reference pictures of his fist sticking through the hole (the very one they were trying to enlarge)? Obiously he was on one side and the photographer was on the other...
Hmmm, a discrepancy perhaps? Trickey fiction writers!
//oop, wait, that was just his glove, not attached to an arm :oops: //
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oh and about the pictures....one guy had a picture of him in the tomb squeez part. man he barely looked like he could get through, he looked stuck, and he also looked thin. and the fact that he looked thin makes me wonder how the picture of the bigger guy in the blue shirt could have even gotten into the opening in the first place.
thin guy=barely getting throught the hole
bigger guy=how the hell could he get through the hole
other wise cool story and pretty interesting.
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climbingcanuck
May 6, 2003, 10:07 PM
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Wow. what an amazing story. True or not, I was totally into it. they had me crapping my pants. Tight squeeze caving is scarry enough but having an experience like that would make me spend the rest of my life at home.
cant wait for the ending
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In reply to: Oops sorry... I meant "Fictionry" not "Fakery" :lol: I did find this picture home.globaleyes.net/.../resources/ Format,%20Janet%2006.jpg on this website http://home.globaleyes.net/carbide/Photographs.html Maybe this "Joe Estes" would know something about "Joe" in the story. Then again maybe he isn't saying anything?
also interesting that it says mystery cave by some of the pictures...I'm thinking its probably a coincidence...or they went to lengths to plant pictures...
pretty scary story...had me on edge. Noticed a couple of tense errors that make me think its definitely fiction...places where he said "if we had known what we'd find" in the journal entries themselves and not in blue...though transcription would explain that.
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veilneb
May 7, 2003, 5:21 PM
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In reply to: oh and about the pictures....one guy had a picture of him in the tomb squeez part. man he barely looked like he could get through, he looked stuck, and he also looked thin. and the fact that he looked thin makes me wonder how the picture of the bigger guy in the blue shirt could have even gotten into the opening in the first place. thin guy=barely getting throught the hole bigger guy=how the hell could he get through the hole other wise cool story and pretty interesting.
It's not a hand, it's a glove in the hole, placed there so you can get an idea what the size of the opening is.
If you read the story, you would realize that the "bigger guy" never goes through the opening.
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May 7, 2003, 6:04 PM
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Yeah, Bigger guy, "B",never goes in. Third guy, Joe, Smaller than author reportedly, took the picture from the far side of "Floyd's Tomb," looking back
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fuzzymonkey
May 7, 2003, 6:10 PM
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Joe (i think) is the one who takes the picture while he (the main character) in in the tomb right before he smacked his head. B never entered the cave. This guy (main character) seems offely accident prone, how many times did he hit his head, or something else? yikes.
The story was good, gave me something to read while in class.
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May 7, 2003, 7:04 PM
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that was truly great.... i read the whole thing.... and now have a lot of work to do that i was suppose to be doing
would love to know the author and his other work
Brandon
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aarong
May 7, 2003, 7:20 PM
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Ok, I read it and liked to too. Regardless of what was real and what wasn't -
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May 7, 2003, 8:59 PM
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holy cow that story was AWESOME!!!!!!!!
that is easily the best 'amateur' story i have ever read, and is most likely the best 'story' story that i've read for a couple months at least
kudos to the author
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fulltilt
May 8, 2003, 4:24 AM
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So at the end... do they find Bin Laden or not?
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May 8, 2003, 5:41 AM
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I read this story a couple of days ago and since then I have thought about it a number of times. A great story draws you back like that.
I think some of the reasons the story works so well include aspects of familiar activities and basic emotions. You don't have to be a caver, climber, construction worker, etc, but if you are, you identify more readily with the characters. Moreover it is a basic human feeling to have been afraid of the unknown in the dark at some point. Who hasn't heard strange noises, or been afraid of something under the bed, in the closet, or up in the attic? The writer is very adept at suspense and realized that the unseen can be more powerful than demonic description. The part with the rope pulling back was a great touch for any climber.
It's amazing what the power of suggestion can do, like that noise I just heard in the other room, not really there but..... hang on, there it is again. Did I leave the radio on? I'd better check, BRB.
hel........ :twisted:
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May 8, 2003, 8:26 AM
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taht was a great story. damn.
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djmacedonas
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In reply to: Joe (i think) is the one who takes the picture while he (the main character) in in the tomb right before he smacked his head. B never entered the cave. This guy (main character) seems offely accident prone, how many times did he hit his head, or something else? yikes.
If you've ever gone caving... you hit your head a hell of a lot :oops: ... everytime you turn it your in danger. I only went once and realized that I'm far too claustrophobic... I could barely look at that pic of him in that passage without feeling sick in some deep primal way
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overlord
May 18, 2003, 10:48 AM
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that was the point. to make you feel sick.
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May 20, 2003, 5:36 PM
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wow! It was a long story, yet inthralling. It ate up some of the time I had to spend and kept my attention easily. I do like the ending... even though I had to double check my page to make sure my server wasn't acting up. I was a little bummed at first, but it was totally worth it!
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May 22, 2003, 4:58 PM
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Yes a very good story!
It kept my attention and sort of made my hart race for a while there but he needs to think of an ending.
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May 25, 2003, 2:56 PM
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the "empty" ending IS the ending - it makes you wonder if he's alive.. If he returned and said the noises were just a dying squirrel and that he found the bottom or something, that woudl be boring and not so scarey..
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May 25, 2003, 6:21 PM
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Surely a good story, time well spent on a Sunday morning... lol Like our dear friend Ted, I long to seek closure on this one lol... Mostly I would like to find out if the author is indeed the Ted Mueller that was in the the Illinois cave... http://home.globaleyes.net/carbide/Photographs.html There is a picture on the link that shows a heavier, bearded spelunker (Richard Young) which might be passable as "B" in the story. Anyway... I enjoyed it and found the ending to be perfect for the story. I think that scrape marks or odd footprints down the "hidden tunnell" would have really for more hair-raising tales.
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ptone
May 25, 2003, 8:21 PM
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Great fun--
the 'page not found' was perfect :shock:
Oh man--skinnying down a rat hole under unestimable tons of earth into a neanderthal burial ground...
I climb towards the light.
Like a moth?
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