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Imagine my shock when I opened my Xmas present from one of my partners and it was an Alien...that was grey/silver colored on the handle and the size was just in between the red and yellow Alien. I looked at him like "is this what I think it is??" and he said "yep, a new size Alien!"

I lept up and gave him a hug with more joy than if he'd given me the keys to a new car! Where the hell he found it I have no idea, a climbing shop in Vegas I think. But it's this perfect new size, right in between yellow and red.

Ahh...I love you new gray Alien. 8) 8) 8)

Anyone else have one? I'd never even seen one before, didn't know they started making them.


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What??? I need one! I'll have to track one down and get it.


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huh, i know Desert Rock just got a new shipment of Aliens in (like a week or two ago), but i didnt notice any new sizes...course, that's prolly because i've been ogling the HB offsets lately....

great, now i have to know!!! *runs off to find the new alien*


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My Precious...


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huh, i know Desert Rock just got a new shipment of Aliens in (like a week or two ago), but i didnt notice any new sizes...course, that's prolly because i've been ogling the HB offsets lately....

great, now i have to know!!! *runs off to find the new alien*

I think that might be where he got it (DR). I'd never seen one before. It's the perfect size.


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Where can you get one....I looked everywhere I know of....I MUST have one, NOW ! Thanks in advance......

Rick


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I searched the web and could not find anything about a grey alien. Can you post a picture for us? Also I remember seeing a web site for CCH Aliens, but I was unable to turn anything up this evening. The offsets have grey slings, but color coded loops. I guess you are the lucky one.
Seems that a size between the yellow and red is not really necessary, huh guess they thought it was.


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Dudes, as a cost-saving measure I just spraypainted my red alien grey. Yay! I love my grey alien!

red alien?

Where is my red alien?

Damn. Now I need a red alien.

Guess I will have to go buy one of those new grey aliens and paint it red.

Alas, such is the way of the cost-saving gearhead.

-Kate.

Beth...will you please bring your grey alien to J-tree this weekend? It needs my love, really it does. I can hear it calling to me now...

And oh yeah...my grey alien is bigger than yours! Wait a minute.


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Beth...will you please bring your grey alien to J-tree this weekend? It needs my love, really it does. I can hear it calling to me now...

And oh yeah...my grey alien is bigger than yours! Wait a minute.

hell, you can see it right now if ya want, my Aliens are at the bottom of Bob's pack since he led the last route yesterday so it's there in Vegas. But don't worry, they'll be back in my possession Friday and I WILL have it on me this weekend. Never gonna loan a guy my Aliens again after what happened last time I did that. At least I know this time I'll get them back. :wink:

Oh, and I did an online search too, they're new and all I could find online were the standard colors, none of the new stuff yet and since CCH doens't have a homepage that didn't really help anyway.


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Yeah Beth! Even more to look forward too if I make it this weekend...(in indy now, so cant hunt down yer man's pack in vegas)

I do think they needed something between the red and yellow aliens...besides me on the occasional lonely night. ;)

-Kate.


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i actually did find a website that was selling the #5 alien (the #4 had a pic of Yellow, the #6 was Red)...so, perhaps that was it. course, it was an aussie site.
(www.chockstone.org- go to shopping and the camming devices section)

i'll call Mike over @ DR in the next day or so and get back to everyone on this. unless someone beats me to it.


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I looked at the site and the pic you saw was the Orange not the red. Size 4 is yellow, size 5 is red and size six is orange. Sorry for the bad news. That would be great to have a new size but I can't see it concidering CCH can't fill the orders of the other sizes. But if there is a new size I want one too.


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I looked at the site and the pic you saw was the Orange not the red. Size 4 is yellow, size 5 is red and size six is orange. Sorry for the bad news. That would be great to have a new size but I can't see it concidering CCH can't fill the orders of the other sizes. But if there is a new size I want one too.


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wow beth, you musn't trust this new cam much if u put this in Injuries & Accidents


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I do think they needed something between the red and yellow aliens...besides me on the occasional lonely night. ;)
-Kate.
well you know they do have something between a red and yellow. it's a hybrid. it's red/yellow.
I also wouldn't trust the grey alien if I'm going to get injured.


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i want one also


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i'm on the trail. hopefully i'll have info soon.

for all those interested in the CCH Homepage, outdates as it is, it's

http://www.aliencams.com

no info on a new cam there. sorry about the website before, you're right its orange. it was late...seeing things, you know how it is. hah.


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The red/yellow hybrid has a grey sling, but the trigger loop is half red and half yellow. All of the hybrids have grey slings. The alien that I have that has both a grey sling and a grey trigger is the largest one...somewhere between the size of a #1 and #2 camalot.

Beth, is your new alien a red/yellow hybrid or is it a new "even" size btw yellow and red.

Thx.

Melissa


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A new size is cool, but they need to work on their color scheme. I have a grey alien that's about the size of a #2 camalot. All of the hybrids have grey sling too.


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Where can you get one....I looked everywhere I know of....I MUST have one, NOW ! Thanks in advance......

Rick

They have them here (or they did last week):

http://www.rocksnow.com/

You'll need to call. I don't believe they do mail order by internet yet.

This is the local climbing shop at the Gunks and you better act fast. These were discussed on the Gunks Forum www.gunks.com a week or so ago and Rock and Snow may have sold out by now.

Good Luck all. CCH is notorius for being out of stock.


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hey, speaking of out of stock, just to piss y'all off, I just scored a full set of aliens (blue through red, the only sizes I care about) for $100 on eBay. I had to re-tie some of the slings, and they look like hell, but they work.

:-D

(where is the "shit eating grin" smiley when I need one)

hail eBay. Praise eBay. I'm going to be selling a bunch of old rigid Friends and TCU's on eBay soon, take a gander if you want. Plus, now that I have doubles in the sizes I give a crap about, I won't be auto-searching for Aliens anymore.

(people buy things new/not-on-sale? on what planet does this happen? :-) I guess it's okay for gifts and all, I buy new gifts, just not new my-stuff)


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A new size is cool, but they need to work on their color scheme. I have a grey alien that's about the size of a #2 camalot. All of the hybrids have grey sling too.

I think those are the "white" ones, which are actually like a translucent whitish-grey color. This one is solid grey/silver in color and it's way smaller than "white" alien. It's perfectly sized btwn red & yellow.

Okay, I'm bringing this Alien out for a big show and tell this weekend so everyone believes me :wink:.


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Seems that a size between the yellow and red is not really necessary, huh guess they thought it was.

I agree with Radistrad here. The yellow Alien is 3/4" and the red Alien is 1". I really don't think there's much necessity for what I presume to be a 7/8" size. Come on - we're talking about a mere 1/8". I've never had a placement where neither yellow nor red fit and felt I needed something in between.

And for all of you who feel you must "run out and get one now" I think maybe, just maybe, you folks are just a bit TOO preoccupied with your gear. It's called Climbing folks, not Gear Collecting (although some of you make me wonder).

This should be moved from "Injuries and Accidents" to "Gearheads" for sure!


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Seems that a size between the yellow and red is not really necessary, huh guess they thought it was.


And for all of you who feel you must "run out and get one now" I think maybe, just maybe, you folks are just a bit TOO preoccupied with your gear. It's called Climbing folks, not Gear Collecting (although some of you make me wonder).

This should be moved from "Injuries and Accidents" to "Gearheads" for sure!


Yea, but Beth has one...... So I WANT ONE :)

Rick


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Yea, but Beth has one...... So I WANT ONE :)

Rick

So, IF Beth jumped off a building........


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rock and snow in new paltz, ny has them also. if their site is up you should be able to buy them there. its a pretty good deal. next time i go i have to pick one up, i was there two days ago and i didnt have the money. it is definitely on my wish list.


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Yea, but Beth has one...... So I WANT ONE :)

Rick

So, IF Beth jumped off a building........

If Beth jumped off a building it would only be with a B.A.S.E. jumping chute attatched. That's about the only way I'd jump off a building :wink:


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EEWWWW LOOK AT ME I'M BETH AND I GOT A SPECIAL NEW ALIEN FOR XMAS EWW I'M SO COOL I'M GONNA TAKE IT FOR SHOW N TELL ON FRIDAY.

EEEWW.







you know i'm kidding, beff.


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dontfall moved this thread from Injuries & Accidents to Trad Climbing.


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Yea, but Beth has one...... So I WANT ONE :)

Rick

So, IF Beth jumped off a building........

If Beth jumped off a building it would only be with a B.A.S.E. jumping chute attatched. That's about the only way I'd jump off a building :wink:

And apparently there would be a very long line of followers on your heels!!!


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EEWWWW LOOK AT ME I'M BETH AND I GOT A SPECIAL NEW ALIEN FOR XMAS EWW I'M SO COOL I'M GONNA TAKE IT FOR SHOW N TELL ON FRIDAY.

EEEWW.

you know i'm kidding, beff.

Just for that you don't get to climb on it jojo!!! :twisted: :twisted:


aww, who am I kidding, you'll be climbing on it with me in a couple weeks time. :roll:


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Never gonna loan a guy my Aliens again after what happened last time I did that. At least I know this time I'll get them back. :wink:

OK Beth.. I draw the line at this!!! You know I tried numerous times to return your gear only to be ignored.
When you showed up at J-Tree for the Halloween party Dennis throws every year I had all of your shiot in my hand and tried to give it to you!!
You just walked away and refused to speak to me.
Do not even pretend I have not made every effort only to be shut down!!
You also have a few things of mine! Remember??
Your shiot continues to take up a portion of my closet no longer allocated to you!
Grow the F### up! Come get your Shiot! Return My Shiot!!
Break-ups happen every day! I for one am sooo thankful to be out of that one! And above all, STOP ACTING AS IF I STOLE YOU GEAR!!!


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Yea, but Beth has one...... So I WANT ONE :)

Rick

So, IF Beth jumped off a building........


Well, yes if she did it I would most likely follow :) It must be FUN !

Rick


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The Following are all of the e-mails I sent you Beth Remember???
(these are posted in response to Beth fingering me as a thief...........
I hope others think I deserve a say in this very serious accusation)

9-19-2003
Things have been good. I hope all the best for you Beth.
I never had the intention of hurting you as I am sure you had no ill intent towards me. I'm sorry things could not have been different, but wasting each others time is not what I would call fair.
I need to return some gear to you and retrieve some bits and pieces.
Call me. I hope we can talk sensibly. Bye Gabe


9-30-2003
Things have been good. I hope all the best for you Beth.
I never had the intention of hurting you as I am sure you had no ill intent towards me. I'm sorry things could not have been different, but wasting each others time is not what I would call fair.
I need to return some gear to you and retrieve some bits and pieces.
Call me. I hope we can talk sensibly. Bye Gabe

I don't know why I haven't heard from you regarding your gear. Don't you need it for Moab???

10-6-2003
Beth,
I sent you e-mails and called your phone because I wanted you to get your things back, and would like back the few things of mine that I left with you.
Remember who was trying to get whose things back....K......
Georgia, when I asked to have you call me said, "Beth has no interest in speaking with you." It appears to me Beth, that Georgia speaks for you now. Subsequently,
I have no interest in speaking to any outside party about my personal business, relationship, or any other private matter. Read this twice, and I am sure you are not too
busy to get in touch with me personally, after all, we were involved personally. Thanks


These are only a few attempts to rectify both of our missing items. There were MANY MORE. I have yet to hear from her and she only runs the other way when she sees me. It makes me feel like Shiot!

I hope I haven't bored anyone too much but
I Will defend my Honor!!


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I hope I haven't bored anyone too much but

Bored? Are you kidding? It's like watching mid afternoon network TV! I've always ahted soaps till now... :wink: :twisted:


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So is Beth available? I need a good climbing girl friend? Good girl or good at climbing... either way. As the World Turns

MM


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what are these aliens?


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yup, there is a brand new grey alien. i was going to post this a couple weeks ago but decided not to. according to rumor, it was personally requested by Rich Gottleib himself and the guys at CCH made it especially for him.

now a lot of you may think that there is no need for an intermediate between red and yellow( i was among those at first) there is actually a pretty good size chunk that is taken up by the new size... gunkiemike broke out his calipers and actually measured the usable ranges, its on gunks.com.

i fondeled one of this new cams last monday and as of then Rock and Snow had at least half a dozen after their initial stock sold out pretty much right away


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yup, there is a brand new grey alien. i was going to post this a couple weeks ago but decided not to. according to rumor, it was personally requested by Rich Gottleib himself and the guys at CCH made it especially for him.

now a lot of you may think that there is no need for an intermediate between red and yellow( i was among those at first) there is actually a pretty good size chunk that is taken up by the new size... gunkiemike broke out his calipers and actually measured the usable ranges, its on gunks.com.

Wow, THANK YOU for that info. I was wondering when/why they started making it. I used it last weekend in Josh, found it quite handy over in Lost Horse. I'm gonna to check out Mike's site now, thanks!!


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Anyone else have one? I'd never even seen one before, didn't know they started making them.

I have one of the first eleven ever made. Rock & Snow, up at the Gunks, does a LOT of business in Aliens; Rich (owner) made a few suggestions to the folks that CCH, and was the guy to test the prototype. He mentioned the Grey Alien's existence to a few folks; those of us in the know reserved them months ago. *snicker*

I am such a gear slut. :oops:

Congrats on your most excellent gift, Beth!

T - owns the blue, green, yellow, red, and yes: grey alien


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what are these aliens?

They're flexible-stemmed cams that have a very small profile; great for putting in pin scars and other small places where a TCU or Camalot with an equivalent-sized lobe wouldn't fit due to width, as the stem and the springs for the Aliens are in the middle, not on the outside, of the lobes. Also, the flexible stem allows them to be loaded over an edge without them walking as much or being damaged. They're hand-built, one at a time.

They frikken rock.

T


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[I have one of the first eleven ever made. Rock & Snow, up at the Gunks, does a LOT of business in Aliens; Rich (owner) made a few suggestions to the folks that CCH, and was the guy to test the prototype. He mentioned the Grey Alien's existence to a few folks; those of us in the know reserved them months ago. *snicker*

I am such a gear slut. :oops:

Congrats on your most excellent gift, Beth!

T - owns the blue, green, yellow, red, and yes: grey alien

Oh man, now I feel even more lucky!! How much of a production run did they do on the grey ones? Are they gonna be making them as a regular item now? I know my partner got his at a store that got them in stock right before Xmas (great timing for me!). He'd never seen them before either.


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guess who just bought himself a gray alien???? that's right, ME!!! woohoo!!!!! its beautiful, and i love it already. it might be my new fav. piece.

there's like 3 or 4 left at DR (they've had them for a week)...so, if you're in vegas, you know where to go!

heh, i'm a gear whore and proud of it!!!!!


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Oh man, now I feel even more lucky!! How much of a production run did they do on the grey ones? Are they gonna be making them as a regular item now? I know my partner got his at a store that got them in stock right before Xmas (great timing for me!). He'd never seen them before either.

I think that they're going to continue with production permanently, but I'm not 100% sure. The place to ask would be on Gunks.com; big discussion over there.

They really, really do fill a gap between yellow and red. I can't wait to set mine, down here (in Australia, right now)...

Again, congrats! That's a heck of a climbing partner. :)

T


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Anyone have the contact info for DR in vegas ? If so please PM it to me...I gotta get a grey Alien :)

Rick


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Anyone have the contact info for DR in vegas ? If so please PM it to me...I gotta get a grey Alien :)

Rick

Oh baby you're not gonna stop til ya get one, are ya :wink: ! You can use mine next time we climb together if ya want a taste of the tasty grey Alien :P


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Oh yeah!

I have the red-yellow hybred...

The presence of this new greay alien could breed even MORE new aliens!!!

Will there be a Yellow-grey hybred? How about a red-grey hybred?

CCH may have found a wormhole in the universe that somehow creates infinate opportunity for new alien combinations!

So if the current yellow-red hybred now "skips" the grey, could we have a black-green hybred! Oh my.

-Kate.


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hahaha, I KNOW Rick is crapping his pajama pants right now cos Beth has a new toy and HE DOESN'T!!!! :P

Next time I'm in JTree I'll let you all fondle my new #1. So HA!! yeah! my new #1! who's got one of those, eh?

*crickets chirp*

*tumbleweed*

8)


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hahaha, I KNOW Rick is crapping his pajama pants right now cos Beth has a new toy and HE DOESN'T!!!! :P

Next time I'm in JTree I'll let you all fondle my new #1. So HA!! yeah! my new #1! who's got one of those, eh?

*crickets chirp*

*tumbleweed*

8)

Um, sorry dearie... I've got two. :wink: If you're nice, you can fondle my #4... :twisted: :wink:

T


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hahaha, I KNOW Rick is crapping his pajama pants right now cos Beth has a new toy and HE DOESN'T!!!! :P

Next time I'm in JTree I'll let you all fondle my new #1. So HA!! yeah! my new #1! who's got one of those, eh?

*crickets chirp*

*tumbleweed*

8)

Um, sorry dearie... I've got two. :wink: If you're nice, you can fondle my #4... :twisted: :wink:

T

Careful Tai. I've seen Hillary fondle gear. You might not want it back! :shock: :twisted: :wink:


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Can I fondle your grey Alien before I taste it :)

Now that I have that out of the way :) I GOT ONE :) I GOT THE LAST ONE AT DR, will have it next week :)



Rick


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if you guys really want it bad, go to www.rocksnow.com and get it through them, they will ship it to you and they had a bunch.


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Yeah, but Rick, I now have TWO full sets of Hybrid Aliens. :wink:

I don't get the need for this new Alien. Of course, that doesn't stop me from coveting it, but to me the real need is for a size between the red and the ORANGE. Not the yellow/red. I'll have to see one for myself, I guess... :roll:

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I ordered my first Hybrids yesterday, the first two.... Now if I can just figure out when to use them :)

Rick


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if you guys really want it bad, go to www.rocksnow.com and get it through them, they will ship it to you and they had a bunch.

Uh, not anymore there isn't...

Just called and got the last one!! :P


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Uuuurrrp...


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Maybe someone from CCH will see this thread and realize that they could sell more cams if they would make more :)

Rick


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I want one I want one (jumping up and down) Hey Rick, can I drool over yours? :P


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Good lord, you people are sick :shock:

Beth, are you sure you don't work for CCH's PR department? :P


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I want one I want one (jumping up and down) Hey Rick, can I drool over yours? :P


Sure...all females are welcomed to come and fondle my Grey alien or any of my 89 other cams :) Males can look but not touch :)

Rick


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hahaha, I KNOW Rick is crapping his pajama pants right now cos Beth has a new toy and HE DOESN'T!!!! :P

Next time I'm in JTree I'll let you all fondle my new #1. So HA!! yeah! my new #1! who's got one of those, eh?

*crickets chirp*

*tumbleweed*

8)

Um, sorry dearie... I've got two. :wink: If you're nice, you can fondle my #4... :twisted: :wink:

T

Careful Tai. I've seen Hillary fondle gear. You might not want it back! :shock: :twisted: :wink:

Can I at least take pictures? That'd be worth having to get a new cam, I think... :twisted: :lol:

T


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Can I fondle your grey Alien before I taste it :)

Now that I have that out of the way :) I GOT ONE :) I GOT THE LAST ONE AT DR, will have it next week :)



Rick

Ha HAH!!! I KNEW you'd find one before the week was over!!

Hey, did DR say how many they had in stock originally? Wondering how big a production run they did on those grey ones. Good for you that you got yours though. Now I gotta get me some offsets to catch up to you in that department :wink: !


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Beth.... I got the last one at DR and cannot locate anymore, though I am trying to get one for my partner.

I also ordered two offsets a few days ago. I have never used one but will try soon :)

Rick


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I want one I want one (jumping up and down) Hey Rick, can I drool over yours? :P


Sure...all females are welcomed to come and fondle my Grey alien or any of my 89 other cams :) Males can look but not touch :)

Rick
SCK SICK SICK BASTARD. 89? EIGHTY-NINE?


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I want one I want one (jumping up and down) Hey Rick, can I drool over yours? :P


Sure...all females are welcomed to come and fondle my Grey alien or any of my 89 other cams :) Males can look but not touch :)

Rick
SCK SICK SICK BASTARD. 89? EIGHTY-NINE?


Is that a twinge of cam envy I hear :) You are welcomed to fondle my grey alien too Hillary, as long as Kole does not object :)

Rick


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i think DR had about 6 originally. Kate and I each bought one last night, and I think one had been bought before that (prolly beth's)....so, between last night and this morning, the other 3 had been snagged.

whew, just a bunch of gear whores in this town. heh. i'm only bummed because Kate and Beth get to try out their new aliens, and i have to wait because its all snowy and wet in RR! argh!!!!! another week before i can climb! argh! :x


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whew, just a bunch of gear whores in this town. heh. i'm only bummed because Kate and Beth get to try out their new aliens, and i have to wait because its all snowy and wet in RR! argh!!!!! another week before i can climb! argh! :x

Not a gear whore....it's gear 'HO! babe:wink:


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Yea baby I am a HO :) But I am reasonably priced and well worth it :)

Rick


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"loogout fuh mit-ter gwey."

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Well, this baby arrived last Friday. I didn't have the chance to place it anywhere this weekend, but I did compare sizes of the yellow, gray, and red. My initial observation, as Wes mentioned, is that the range it covers is not very different from the red. The over lap with the Red Alien is signifiant and I think the need for this one is largely frivilous. It will probably be a niche piece for my rack when aiding, but I don't think I'll be bringing it along for many trad climbs. It's just redundant.

Now, if they start making one between the red and the orange, I think they'd be on to something. There's clearly a need for one between those two.

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Superfluous Pieces.

The Red and Orange overlap. There is no "hole" between the sizes.

Do you need a piece for every 1/16th increment?

Absurdity.


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Superfluous Pieces.

The Red and Orange overlap. There is no "hole" between the sizes.

Not if you are talking "useable range" find a 1.1" crack and your red will be about 60% open :( ,and your orange will be almost fully closed (90%) :? . I agree with the mysterious grey being "superfluous" but I'd like a red/orange (sunset) cross. This is actually a pretty awkward size for camalots as well. Red TCU probably works best.


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I must say that I've felt myself longing for an Orange-Red hybrid, but never something in between the two sizes.


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Superfluous Pieces.

The Red and Orange overlap. There is no "hole" between the sizes.

Not if you are talking "useable range" find a 1.1" crack and your red will be about 60% open :( ,and your orange will be almost fully closed (90%) :? . I agree with the mysterious grey being "superfluous" but I'd like a red/orange (sunset) cross. This is actually a pretty awkward size for camalots as well. Red TCU probably works best.

That's why there is a purple camalot.

Nuts,

Hexes,

Tri Cams,

Red Alien < Purple Camalot < Orange Alien < Green Camalot

Plus many TCU sizes in between.

ALSO 90 % retraction is perfect for aliens. So in the above scenario depicted, the orange is a cherry-bomb piece!


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Just to let you guys know, we have plenty of the new grey alien in stock!
After fighting with CCH and messying up on our order three times it's here. They stock will probably take another three months to replace once it's gone.

Just click here to go to the grey alien if you are interested:


Don't have aliens yet? Check out the deal on the whole set of 9 or 8



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Bump for popularity.


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I have extensively used the red and the yellow alien. It is quite true that I'd give my left testicle or shoot my mother in the head before heading up a route without them.

I have played around with the grey, and was totally unimpressed. I mean, this thing doesn't do anything that a red or yellow wont. You may find the occasional crack that is the magical size in between (I'm thinking of the easier part of Bishops Crack), but it's 99% redundant. I'll probably never get one unless one of my hookups throws one at me.

For the record, I'm 89% drunk right now though. I could still outclimb your silly ass without any grey alien.


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Jun 24, 2005, 6:39 PM
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For the record, I'm 89% drunk right now though. I could still outclimb your silly ass without any grey alien.

Ahh ... wow, that's an instant classic!

- Seyil


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Jun 24, 2005, 6:56 PM
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If you climb in an area that eats up small cams then the grey alien is a fantastic way to supplement your rack instead of doubling up on the yellow or the red... But take my advice for what its worth, I'm only 17% drunk right now (its early, give me a break!)

I know that regular aliens come in regular and super long... does anyone know if they also make hybrids in SL?


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Jun 24, 2005, 7:07 PM
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so is there any way to shut up renohandjams with his constant peddling of tradrack.com? it's getting very obnoxious. seems like his every other post is telling people to buy gear at his place.


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Jun 24, 2005, 10:51 PM
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This place has plenty of the grey alien in stock. So if you are looking for it click here:

Grey Alien in Stock


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Jun 24, 2005, 11:33 PM
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I know that regular aliens come in regular and super long... does anyone know if they also make hybrids in SL?

Yep. I have one :D

Rock and snow should have them in stock, they carry only the SLs. Heres a link to their site http://rocksnow.com/...16244&cat=250&page=1. Probably would hurt to call first though. -ws


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This place has plenty of the grey alien in stock. So if you are looking for it click here:

Grey Alien in Stock


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Directly under my previous post is more proof. Seriously. It's obnoxious buddy. You've peddled your store twice on this thread. Give it up.


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Jun 27, 2005, 7:53 PM
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You've posted your store twice on this thread. Give it up.

I'm sorry, I didn't realize I posted twice. Dealing with CCH is such a hassle, babies crying in the background when you call to find out why your shippment is 3 months late, etc.. I post if I ever have something from CCH in stock because chances are nobody else does. If it wasn't for their superior products they would be out of business. Many retailers chose not to carry their products because their relationship with their dealers is terrible, they say one thing and do another, etc... Because fewer people carry & stock their stuff it drives up the demand, that is why some hybrids can be found on ebay above retail. When the hybrids come in I will post that they are in stock on a hybrid thread because it's big wall season and good luck getting them elsewhere!

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