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Heres an idea for all you geriatric stone grappling maniacs:
Because youre making this an age specific event, in the spirit of pure diplomacy between the older and the younger, i suggest you see what the cost of a big mega bus RV thing would be to rent for a weekend or so. they easily handle 10-20 people depending on the configuration(im talking tour bus size) and then you can go anywhere ya'll want to go. LIke a bunch of pre-snowbirds.
Either way, it might help keep the gum flappin to a minimum in the mean time and limit the possibility that any of us thar lurk the thread will get hit by a flying set of dentures that lost the pepsodent bond...
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Thanks sandbag! I've always wondered why my teef kept falling out! Pepsodent bond, eh? :lol:


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Heres an idea for all you geriatric stone grappling maniacs:
Because youre making this an age specific event, in the spirit of pure diplomacy between the older and the younger, i suggest you see what the cost of a big mega bus RV thing would be to rent for a weekend or so. they easily handle 10-20 people depending on the configuration(im talking tour bus size) and then you can go anywhere ya'll want to go. LIke a bunch of pre-snowbirds.
Either way, it might help keep the gum flappin to a minimum in the mean time and limit the possibility that any of us thar lurk the thread will get hit by a flying set of dentures that lost the pepsodent bond...
;)

And you think any of us have either the visual capacity or the reflexes to be able to safely DRIVE the damned thing?

Boy, you REALLY don't know what it's like to be a geezer! :wink:

I sure dont, but then again Ma cherie, the people(snowbirds) that they sell those things to are old enough to be your parents. They must have some inertial guidance system and auto pilot like an A-6, because you dont hear about too many disasters when they die sleeping behind the wheel...;)
either way, thats an option id follow up on, you may find that you can split the costs and have a pretty hip swinging pad.....maybe even decked out like a 70s disco lounge to really make you feel young again
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Just make a date.

Bob, you really shouldn't try to rush these old people. :lol:

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Just make a date.
Bob, you really shouldn't try to rush these old people. :lol:
Exactly. After a certain number of years on this planet, it takes time find the reading glasses, next years' calendar, and a pencil.

It takes time to coordinate the doctors' appointments, the AARP meetings, and the seniors night discount buffets with climbing.

It takes time to acquire an adequate supply of Metamucil, Depends, Poly Grip, and Dentu-Cream for a week of climbing.

And finally, it takes time to warm up them durn high-fallutin' whiz-bang computers and sign on to the that G.W. or W.W.W. internet thingie and communicate with other people. Lordy, it was so much easier to do this on the party line when Aunt Maybel used to work at the phone company.


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Cavers have a gathering called OTR, Old Timers Reunion. Of course cavers of all ages go. Any excuse to get together is worth pursuing.


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Bob, you really shouldn't try to rush these old people. :lol:
Exactly. After a certain number of years on this planet, it takes time find the reading glasses, next years' calendar, and a pencil.

It takes time to coordinate the doctors' appointments, the AARP meetings, and the seniors night discount buffets with climbing.

It takes time to acquire an adequate supply of Metamucil, Depends, Poly Grip, and Dentu-Cream for a week of climbing.

And finally, it takes time to warm up them durn high-fallutin' whiz-bang computers and sign on to the that G.W. or W.W.W. internet thingie and communicate with other people. Lordy, it was so much easier to do this on the party line when Aunt Maybel used to work at the phone company.

Exactly. I figure by page 20 or 30 of this thread, the old codgers will have established a date for this thing. Give 'em time, for God's sake to do things in their own good time.

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You old farts have commitments? I thought being old was about having the wisdom and experience to get OUT of them! :wink:

We can actually decide collectively when we'd like to have it - I know June 18 and 19 are probably out. How many days do we want this age-stravaganza to last before we're so worn out we can't even unking our joints to get out of bed in the morning? :wink:

Thinking maybe June 24-27? That's the weekend before the July 4th holiday, and unless we get another March dump of snow that prohibits any activity above 5000 feet, it could be pretty well cleared out for climbing. Shelf at least would be good, Penitente and the South Platte would definitely be in fine shape.

Thoughts?

I like that date, works for me. The earlier the date is known the better for me to book a cheap flight out to CO.


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That's it, then, that's the date! Marge has spoken, and this event doesn't happen without my bud! :wink:

I've got pull...........................sweet


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I'm in...should be fun!


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This has been one of the funniest threads that I have seen anywhere. Thanks to all contributors for giving a youngster (44) lots of laughs. Look forward to being 50 so maybe I could get an invite to another of these bashes. Give me a nudge in 5 years time will ya? Will need to book early for the flight from UK :roll:


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So I've written it down! Just remember to nudge me a few weeks before hand it takes a while to get everything working again. Oh, and remind me that I wrote something down. :lol:


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where am i going anyways????? :?


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where am i going anyways?
Well, it appears we've narrowed the gathering to somewhere in Colorado. Kiss off all the land east of I-25 (apologies to those who actually like Castlewood Canyon), and we're down to a mere 50,000 to 60,000 square miles of terrain. The state's climbing is covered by maybe 100 to 110 guide books (OK, 99 to 109 w/o Castlewood), so I don't see any reason why we should narrow the list. Just show up at a randomly-picked crag and climb!

Think about the possibilities:

Day 1 -- The Ophir Wall near Telluride. Climb 'til dusk, hop in the car, drive all night to Rocky Mountain National Park, and hit the Longs Peak parking lot at Oh-Dark-Thirty.

Day 2 -- After a brief 5-minute nap, grab the pack and hump the load of gear up to the base of the Diamond. Climb something hard (preferably off width) to get used to the altitude. Slog back to the car via headlamp, grab a burger in Estes Park, and head south for maybe 4 hours to Canyon City.

Day 3 -- Give yesterday's OW technique a rest by chasing bolts at Shelf Road. The crimpers, small pockets, and sharp holds will feel good. Trust me.

Day 4 -- Slab day in the South Platte. It will be mandatory that routes must include something ridiculously runout, with protection coming from rusty 1/4" button-head spinners with Leaper Z hangers. Consider this the "rest" day.

Day 5 -- After a casual 3 hour drive from a Platte River campsite, it's Eldo day. Leave the big cams from the Diamond behind -- it's time for two sets of stoppers and your small cams. Bring lycra (or Prana, if you must) and strut yer stuff.

Day 6 -- A breakfast of Boulder's best high-test coffee, then crank up the Chevy for a 200-mile romp on I-70 to Rifle. After the last five days, we'll all be lean, mean, climbing machines. Who cares if we struggled on the 5.10 OW on the Diamond? A tightly bolted 5.13 can't be that hard. Can it?

Day 7 -- Open for a vote. Could be a travel day for some, or maybe a day at RMNP's Lumpy Ridge. For those who can't get enough multi-pitch OW, Lumpy has a few options.

There ya go, Marge -- the perfect itinerary. Perfectly insane.

I dare anyone to make something more suitable. Really.


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holy crap shorty, i thought i was just going to sit around a campfire for three days, listen to stories about the good old days and drink good scotch!!


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Couldn't we stop in Glenwood Canyon on our way out to Rifle?

Oops, oh no Mr. Bill, they've put a tunnel through three of our old routes...


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Oops. I think I just posted to the wrong thread. Sorry, Marge.

I thought I was in the uber-climber, the-Marines-don't-have-nuthin'-on-me, young-punk, whirlwind tour of Colorado thread.

Don't worry. Everyone will forget about this in a couple of pages. Or maybe less -- this is the geezer gathering, after all.


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There ya go, Marge -- the perfect itinerary. Perfectly insane.

I dare anyone to make something more suitable. Really.

Day 1 (09:30am): Wake up and try to figure out where I am and why I'm short of breath.

Day 1 (10:00am): Survived the stiff approach to the Pearl Bakery to gear up.

Day 1 (10:30am): Roll into Gary's shop to replace the gear I forgot to pack (and look at really old gear I used to use).

Day 1 (11:30am): Finally down to Eldo - don't recognize anything on the approach or how to deal with this new State Park business I've heard so much about.

Day 1 (12:30am): Recognize the Bastille. Consider the Northcutt Variation, but decide to just rope solo the Bastille Crack and see if any of this seems vaguely familiar.

Day 1 (01:00pm): Still trying to decide whether to use the Yosemite Roped Solo technique or a grigri and small pack for the rope - decide on YRS as old school and for the decorative effect of the many long rope loops hanging from my harness...

Day 1 (01:30pm): Finally organized and ready to climb, would take a hit off a dube but I forgot a lighter; the two parties of young people waiting in line realize something old and peculiar is in the air anyway and offer to let me start ahead of them.

Day 1 (01:45pm): After watching me for 15 minutes the two parties of deferential young people and everyone else at the base has scattered out of site of the Bastille to climb anywhere but here. Something apparently really doesn't smell right...

Day 1 (02:30pm): It dawns on me it's been awhile since I've done this and that could be why it's taken me 45 minutes to do the first pitch and now I have to go to the bathroom really bad.

Day 1 (03:00pm): Fail to remember you have to go back across the slab at the end of the third pitch and instead move up to the top of the slab out on the face and head up the slightly overhanging corner slot.

Day 1 (03:13pm): Am thirty five feet out with no pro attempting to pull up into a mantle but every time I try I'm confronted with a rurp that has rusted into a flakey pyramid with some flapping white threads out the top.

Day1 (03:14pm): Downclimb one move, arm bar - first piece is too big; second piece is too big - this isn't good. Realize I am not in Kansas anymore or anywhere near the Bastille Crack; begin to panic, hyperventilate, and the sewing machine is creeping up just past my knees heading for my abdominals; I feel like pissing and fainting.

Day1 (03:15pm): In a last stumbling attempt I finally get a small wired Peck in a crack end for end and fall while clipping - rope falls in, not out of biner.

Day1 (04:40pm): Have rapped the route, I am attempting to slink down the road in the shadows hoping absolutely no one from the Old Geezer bus was any where near the Bastille this afternoon.

Day1 (11:00pm): Finally located the Old Geezer Gathering by following the steady stream of young women away from a certain dark pub. Every now and then I'd lose the way but a car of them would go by and they'd point back behind them and give me the finger. I knew I was close...

Day2 (03:00am): Too drunk to once again recount the tale of the day's daring solo ascent of Wide Country, so off to bed with that last svelte young blonde with true grit (and tracks) who has been so captivated with my tales of ancient glory.

Day2 (12:30pm): Damn, the Old Geezer bus left without me again! Blonde is nowhere in sight, but there is a note that says something about viagra next time, but goes on to say there will never be a next time. Check in with my wife and see how things are going at the spa and if she had dropped Sally off at her probation officer for her last meeting so charges will be wiped clean.

Day2 (01:00pm): Spot another hung over loser, I mean Geezer, getting coffee and after swapping resumes of lies for about 5 minutes we decide to hitch back out to Eldo and do the Naked Edge (to be cont'd...)


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Day2 (03:00am): Too drunk to once again recount the tale of the day's daring solo ascent of Wide Country, so off to bed with that last svelte young blonde with true grit (and tracks) who has been so captivated with my tales of ancient glory.
One of the more memorable tidbits of advice I received from dad during the formative years was, "Son, if you're not in bed by midnight, you might as well come home."

Which brings me to a related point:

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Day2 (12:30pm): Damn, the Old Geezer bus left without me again! Blonde is nowhere in sight, but there is a note that says something about viagra next time, but goes on to say there will never be a next time.
Nowhere in these lines do a see any statement which comfirms that the svelte young blonde is female. Boulder is, well, sometimes a different town. It's even been called the Eugene, Oregon of Colorado. Not that I understand what that really means. To each his own. But at 3am in a climber's bar, you just might want to be certain that the tall, cool drink of water at your table is the mix you ordered.


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Nowhere in these lines do a see any statement which comfirms that the svelte young blonde is female. Boulder is, well, sometimes a different town. It's even been called the Eugene, Oregon of Colorado. Not that I understand what that really means. To each his own. But at 3am in a climber's bar, you just might want to be certain that the tall, cool drink of water at your table is the mix you ordered.

Day 2 (04:30pm): Taking a long break from our 9th attempt at the first pitch of the Edge - would respond in kind, but I'm too tired and confused to "Get Shorty" for his unwarranted and scathing innuendo relative to both my sexuality and ability to hold onto my water in a tight situation...

[P.S. There are no Porsches in Eugene and the bud doesn't dry out nearly as fast there - how could anyone possibly confuse the two...?]


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[quote="healyje"][quote="shorty"]Nowhere in these lines do a see any statement which comfirms that the svelte young blonde is female. Boulder is, well, sometimes a different town. It's even been called the Eugene, Oregon of Colorado. Not that I understand what that really means. To each his own. But at 3am in a climber's bar, you just might want to be certain that the tall, cool drink of water at your table is the mix you ordered.
Day 2 (04:30pm): Taking a long break from our 9th attempt at the first pitch of the Edge - would respond in kind, but I'm too tired and confused to "Get Shorty" for his unwarranted and scathing innuendo relative to both my sexual prowess and ability to hold my water in a tight situation...

[P.S. There are no Porsches in Eugene and the bud doesn't dry out nearly as fast - how could anyone confuse the two...?]


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More questions from an geezer ... where are we to fly into? What is the physical location where we are to meet?


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Day 2 (04:30pm): Taking a long break from our 9th attempt at the first pitch of the Edge...
Just a quick note here. Around Boulder, you might have a better shot at attracting the svelte, nubile, blond nymph if you state you're on your "9th lap" rather than "9th attempt" of The Edge.

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There are no Porsches in Eugene...
Bummer, dude.


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More questions from an geezer ... where are we to fly into? What is the physical location where we are to meet?

i think that was my question too................ah but these old geezers keep forgetting :wink:


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I know nothing about Colorado, except the Springs area. Will we be staying/climbing near Boulder? Got a friend there I'd like to see while I'm out there, if we'll be close enough.

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