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jt512
Sep 6, 2002, 6:41 PM
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Quote:If you're open-minded, take a web-cruise and look for information on blood type diets.
More like "if you're gullible." The Eat Right 4 Your Type diets are really dumb, and despite what their promoter says, there is no reason to think that your blood type should affect your diet choices.
-Jay
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likethegoddess
Sep 7, 2002, 7:10 AM
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I have to hail protein and lots of it. And bunk to those who poo poo it. So important not only in building muscle but maintaining continuous energy. Personally, I come from a vegetarian background. So even when I gave up vegginess, my meat eating was still minimal.
Since I became a bodyworker and started climbing, I've had to reassess my diet severely. I'm doing 20-30 hours of very vigorous work and play per week. For me, that means cutting way back on the pasta and bread and way up on the animal protein. Now, I eat 1/4 to 1/2 lb (cooked weight) of animal protein per day. That plus a serving or two of dairy and sometimes eggs. For snackiness, I add a protein smoothie or an energy bar. But I have to reinforce that this kind of manufactured protein is a far second to fresh, natural sources.
I can recommend to veggies "Diet for a Small Planet". Lots of good background information including protein combining, very important because soy protein, for instance, does not have all the amino acids required to form a complete protein like meat, fish, eggs and dairy do. Soy needs to be combined with other foods like grains to complete the protein.
So, after my protein flag-waving is done. Reading up is a good idea. Seeing a nutritionist, too. Knowledge is power.
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Oh, fat burning diet. Sorry, I didn't read the whole thread so I just got to your second post. Mine has been low simple carbs, high protein and lots of cardio. Almost no bread or pasta. I take my carbs as whole grains: rice, oatmeal, millet, etc. Also, I didn't mention quinoa and amaranth are grains that actually have all the amino acids of a complete protein. I don't stress out about all fats. I eat natural fats: meat fat (though all my meat is lean), dairy fat (low fat, not non-fat or full fat), olive olive, and yes, butter occasionally. No trans fats and partially hydrogenated whatever fats. I'm doing well. Since I'm gaining muscle mass at the same time (and muscle is denser than fat), I've only lost 5 pounds, but I look a lot slimmer and feel much better. Your mileage may vary.
[ This Message was edited by: likethegoddess on 2002-09-07 00:34 ]
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jprice
Sep 7, 2002, 3:04 PM
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I agree with the eating small meals a day idea, at least 5 to 6. Frequent balanced meals as well as exercise have helped me to lose 20lbs and counting.
I haven't seen any posts yet on supplements. I just started using EAS's Betagen, which is designed to help muscle recovery and to build new muscle. It actually tastes great and gives a little boost to my workouts. Maybe it's mental but it works.
I'm not a huge fan of supplements, all those fad diet pills can cause severe heart damage as well as other unwanted side effects. And most people take them without proper diet and exercise. But something that will help me recover quicker and doesn't have side effects works for me.
Most important is proper nutrition. If you don't mind cooking, then stay away from packaged foods, it's much healthier for you. I still have my downfalls, beer and cheesecake, but limit myself to only having them on a free day. Bottom line listen to your body, it'll run better if you feed it better.
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jeffreyrlarson
Sep 7, 2002, 3:20 PM
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I would say its like all other things, what you eat will probably determine energy levels short and long term.. Eat somewhat healthy but eat what youy enjoy????? -right?
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bigevilgrape
Sep 7, 2002, 3:42 PM
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when you're hungry eat. eat whatever you feel like, and i personally work a salad in twice a day
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seeking8a
Sep 7, 2002, 3:49 PM
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One simple note about protien, someone posted a message about "Diet for a small Planet" and about combining protiens. The protien combining theory has been debunked and the author even apologized for misleading people. People now know that if you eat beans one meal and rice two weeks later your body will combine the protiens fine. Check out "The Food Revolution" if you would really like to understand the modern vegetarian theory and all of the scientific studies that support it.
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jt512
Sep 7, 2002, 6:44 PM
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Quote:I can recommend to veggies "Diet for a Small Planet". Lots of good background information including protein combining, very important because soy protein, for instance, does not have all the amino acids required to form a complete protein like meat, fish, eggs and dairy do. Soy needs to be combined with other foods like grains to complete the protein.
That is incorrect for several reasons:
1. Soy and all other vegetable proteins are "complete" proteins; that is, they contain all the essential amino acids, though individual vegetable proteins may not have them in theorectically ideal proportions.
2. A normal varied vegetarian diet does provide essential amino acids in nearly the theoretically optimal proportions.
3. No special food combing within a meal, or even a day, is necessary because the body maintains a pool of amino acids to draw from.
4. A typical vegetarian diet provides an excess of every essential amino acid, so consuming optimal proportions is unnecessary.
-Jay
Source: Nutritional Biochemistry and Metabolism, 2nd ed (1991); Linder M (ed).
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likethegoddess
Sep 8, 2002, 1:59 AM
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Thanks, guys. Good to get the latest news.
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carabiner86
Sep 15, 2002, 8:15 PM
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My favorite climbing snack is peanut butter sandwhiches and Triscuits. PB is awesome because you can take a bunch out for a day at the crags without having to keep them refrigerated. Loaded with protein and carbs to keep you going. Triscuits are good because they're tasty. Mmmm
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chrisshaeffer
Sep 15, 2002, 8:41 PM
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Water, and lots of it- but no more than 8 oz. in 15 minute. Any more than that and it flows right through you. Whizzz!
Other than that, whatever works for your body. I shifted to a vegitarian diet about 4 months before I got serious about climbing and it works really well for me. I dropped most of my excess fat (didn't have much, but I don't miss what's gone) and I've been building muscle just fine.
There's no cure-all diet, though. Every body is different and we change throughout our lives, too. Experiment, don't buy into hype, and pay attention to how your body FEELS on certain diets. It will tell you what works and what doesn't if you pay attention.
Your body is also pretty resilient- unless you have a sensitive system you will probably do just fine with most decent quality foods. Pay attention to what gives you food coma, what buzzes you up then crashes, and so on and you can make up your own diet for whatever occasion you are planning for.
Be daring! Try something new! And enjoy all that yummy food. Just don't try something entirely new and untested for your next alpine ascent...
Take care,
Chris
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