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pepsbandit
Feb 15, 2005, 5:53 AM
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I was thinking about becoming a minimalist because I have a feeling I'd be a much happier person if I wanted less, and lived a less materialistic life. Then I made a list of things I couldn't live without and came to the conclusion that it's pretty hard to be a minimalist and a climber. But here's my bare necessities.
- a couple pairs of jeans
- a couple pairs of short shorts
- some t-shirts
- a wool sweater
- smart wool socks
- La Sportiva Mythos (good all around shoe)
- a good 70 meter dry rope
- some slings, biners, protection
- rucksack
- food
- bus pass
- I guess some sneakers would be nice too...
how about you?
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ryan112ryan
Feb 15, 2005, 6:35 AM
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skip the bus pass, get a bike and how about a tarp :D
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csgambill
Feb 15, 2005, 6:50 AM
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I've never understood that concept. I like having stuff. It doesn't make me who I am, but I like to be able to do things with my stuff. If that's all you're going to live with can I suggest one item most hobos, such as you aspire to be often neglect. Soap. I observed you did not include this important item on your list. Let me expound upon the myriad virtues of soap. First off, if you rub yourself with soap and water you will remove harmful dirt and bacteria from your body. Say you are climbing and in reaching up to grab a crimper and ::squish:: your fingers find their way into a pilie of squirrel feces. At the moment I suggest you finish your route, but before you proceed to eat anything I suggest you wash your hands with the aforementioned soap. This will prevent you from ingesting harmful bacteria from the squirrel feces.
In addition to destroying potentially harmful bacteria on your body soap will also destroy odor causing bacteria. After climbing for a few hours have you ever reached up to grab a hold thereby exposing your underarm to your olfactory organ causing you to cringe in disgust? Well, that foul raise-the-dead, I'd-rather-move-in-with-my-mother-in-law smell is caused by odor causing bacteria. Now think if your effluvium causes you to react in such a manner, just imagine what other people endure every time you pass by in all your ingloriousness. I'm sorry to have to tell you this but without soap you're going to find willing belayers few and far between. So unless you long for a life of free soloing I suggest you add soap, a most virtuous posession, to your inventory of belongings.
In the next edition we shall discuss a few of the many wonders to be had with Laundry Detergent. Until then, happy Buddhist trails to you on your quest for Nirvana.
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everactive
Feb 15, 2005, 7:03 AM
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Well im all for as few as possible but i seem to do it richly through 1.9 pound sleeping bags along with packs, tents weighing around the same so that I can literaly just live out of one semi filled pack. Id skip t-shirts though and live with base layers and hacked off base layers for those warmer days and maybe some good patagonia or carhart pants.
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jcshaggy
Feb 15, 2005, 10:52 AM
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What about the beer?
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peroxide
Feb 15, 2005, 12:55 PM
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My college roomate tried to live by the rule of 12.
12 things in your room
12 things in closet
12 things....etc.
His living quarters and closet got sparse quick but it brought a bit of the feng shui into our apartment. He felt it was so nice to get rid of the clutter...and he was happier for it. Even cooler considering he came from one of the wealthiest families in the Midwest....
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simplesoul
Feb 15, 2005, 1:03 PM
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Dont you all find it a bit contradictory to be talking about minimalizim on a COMPUTER!!!! we dont need thease damn forsaken things. but they sure are nice once and a while.
enjoy...
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jackhammer
Feb 15, 2005, 2:23 PM
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Silly people. Minimalism comes from within, not from how much stuff you own. Read the teachings of the Far East for further guidance.
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j_ung
Feb 15, 2005, 4:09 PM
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In reply to: - a couple pairs of jeans - a couple pairs of short shorts - some t-shirts - a wool sweater - smart wool socks - La Sportiva Mythos (good all around shoe) - a good 70 meter dry rope - some slings, biners, protection - rucksack - food - bus pass - I guess some sneakers would be nice too... how about you?
I'm not sure you've completely covered Maslow's hierarchy.
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kimmyt
Feb 15, 2005, 4:55 PM
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Just remember that there is a difference between a minimalist and a dirtball.
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pepsbandit
Feb 15, 2005, 11:05 PM
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When I realized that'd I'd like to own bouldering shoes, comfy trad shoes, hiking boots, telemark boots, mountaineering boots, mixed climbing boots, trail running shoes, sandals, approach shoes... I realized it's quite impossable for me to be anything even close to a minimalist. plus soap
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wetyeti
Feb 15, 2005, 11:10 PM
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some rock, a big one. yeah, if i ever become a minimalist, i want some rock. 'til then i'm borrowing everybody elses.
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petsfed
Feb 15, 2005, 11:26 PM
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In reply to: I was thinking about becoming a minimalist because I have a feeling I'd be a much happier person if I wanted less, and lived a less materialistic life. Then I made a list of things I couldn't live without and came to the conclusion that it's pretty hard to be a minimalist and a climber. But here's my bare necessities. - a couple pairs of jeans - a couple pairs of short shorts - some t-shirts - a wool sweater - smart wool socks - La Sportiva Mythos (good all around shoe) - a good 70 meter dry rope - some slings, biners, protection - rucksack - food - bus pass - I guess some sneakers would be nice too... how about you?
A noble effort, but having been briefly homeless, here's what I would really pare it down to:
-1 pair of pants (I prefer cordouroy, they breathe better)
-2 pair underwear (1 pair to wash, 1 pair to wear)
-2 tshirts (ditto)
-3 pair of socks (same idea, 1 to wear, 2 to wash)
-1 fleece jacket
-1 rain jacket
-1 good/lucky hat (you never know when you might need a hat)
-climbing gear as necessary
-good bicycle w/luggage rack
-comfortable pair of shoes
-means of procuring food (otherwise known as a job, or a soup kitchen)
-2 small empty cans of tuna (one to use as a stove, the other as a pot)
-tea lights (to heat the tuna can stove)
-zippo lighter (to light the tuna can stove)
-1 gallon container of some kind (for water, beer, etc)
-something to write on and with
-warm blanket
-rucksack to fit it all in
-1 towel (because you can fake most every other personal hygenic item -or procure them- if you've got a towel)
That's materialistic minimalism in western society. Absolute minimalism is the realization that you don't even need all of that if you realize that need is just a more urgent sense of want. There is no suffering but from desire ... blah blah blah.
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kachoong
Feb 16, 2005, 12:16 AM
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In reply to: When I realized that'd I'd like to own bouldering shoes, comfy trad shoes, hiking boots, telemark boots, mountaineering boots, mixed climbing boots, trail running shoes, sandals, approach shoes... I realized it's quite impossable for me to be anything even close to a minimalist. plus soap |
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phatcat
Feb 16, 2005, 12:24 AM
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In reply to: Silly people. Minimalism comes from within, not from how much stuff you own. Read the teachings of the Far East for further guidance.
agreed.
if you dont have alot of stuff, just to tell other people about how you are so cool because you dont have alot of stuff, you are kind of missing the point.
also wondering, is this list for traveling or for where you plan to live (for a while)? its not really that clear.
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tattooed_climber
Feb 16, 2005, 12:39 AM
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you should go less.................
or you could go technical...................(ie. lighter gear)....
Or both......
* its all about the Pocket Rocket and the Siltarp.... :P
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pepsbandit
Feb 16, 2005, 1:09 AM
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I was just listing the things I think I need, everything else could be labled as extras. Like right now I have lots of climbing shoes and clothes, and I always want more, so I was thinking about cutting down and being less materialistic. :wink:
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rockguy
Feb 16, 2005, 5:58 PM
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In reply to: A noble effort, but having been briefly homeless, here's what I would really pare it down to: -1 pair of pants (I prefer cordouroy, they breathe better) -2 pair underwear (1 pair to wash, 1 pair to wear) -2 tshirts (ditto) -3 pair of socks (same idea, 1 to wear, 2 to wash) -1 fleece jacket -1 rain jacket -1 good/lucky hat (you never know when you might need a hat) -climbing gear as necessary -good bicycle w/luggage rack -comfortable pair of shoes -means of procuring food (otherwise known as a job, or a soup kitchen) -2 small empty cans of tuna (one to use as a stove, the other as a pot) -tea lights (to heat the tuna can stove) -zippo lighter (to light the tuna can stove) -1 gallon container of some kind (for water, beer, etc) -something to write on and with -warm blanket -rucksack to fit it all in -1 towel (because you can fake most every other personal hygenic item -or procure them- if you've got a towel) |
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cloudbreak
Feb 16, 2005, 6:07 PM
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How about learning some bare grammar first.
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bad_lil_kitty
Feb 16, 2005, 7:11 PM
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I like my new red whistle!
Me - always extra tissue (cause us gals have to wipe) and a baggie to dispose tissue in. Other girly essentials as necessary.
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petsfed
Feb 16, 2005, 7:14 PM
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In reply to: In reply to: ... -1 towel (because you can fake most every other personal hygenic item -or procure them- if you've got a towel)LOL! :lol: Have you read "A Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy"?
You don't really think I'm that creative do you? Of course I've read up to that point.
/failure as a nerd
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mack_north
Feb 16, 2005, 7:26 PM
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My brother Teddy is big on living the ascetic and simple life, etc. Then we were together for the holidays and he stole the Ipod out of my duffel bag. He doesn't know I know, but I know! I know a lot of stuff about Teddy that would kill my mom - like the fact that he's a cold, thievin', selfish, evil dude!
Here's something else- he stroked out when I gave some cigarettes to his kid! I mean, the kid is 8 or 9. Big deal. Meanwhile, Teddy is cheatin' on his wife, he's always lookin' to get his freak on. And he's yelling at me over a half pack of American Spirits.
Family!
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off_center
Feb 18, 2005, 1:01 AM
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It might be a more effective way to minimize if you list the stuff you've got, let people choose what they want to take from you, and then whatever your left with, that's all you really need. Chances are if you really need it, everyone else really needs it to, so they won't want to take your used, dirty version of an item they already have.
. . . so let's see the list, and where we have to go to pick up our new stuff.
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dingus
Feb 18, 2005, 1:08 AM
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A minimalist with a list. Lovely.
DMT
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