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boadman
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I was on the way up to Castle Rock to climb when this happened yesterday, we were stopped for around 45 minutes. The route to the right of cannabis sportiva requires a 60 (maybe 10 feet left after lowering), he would have fallen pretty far if he only had a 50.
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zozo
May 25, 2005, 4:13 PM
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I was just thinking that is either a very long route or a very short rope. Hope he's ok.
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mattq331
May 25, 2005, 4:18 PM
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Interesting how the local newspaper mentions the fact that a contributing factor to the chopper not landing was the presence of a news chopper in the vicinity.
Quote: "Sheriff's Deputy Gary Robinson said the aircraft also had difficulty landing because of a Fox News helicopter that wouldn't leave the airspace.
"We can't have two choppers in the air this close," Robinson said. "And I'm not getting a lot of cooperation."
Strangely, Fox News never mentioned this in their report!
Best wishes to the climber involved.
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zozo
May 25, 2005, 4:28 PM
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If true the other stations will pick it up and they won't have a problem reporting that.
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ikefromla
May 25, 2005, 4:37 PM
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an unfortunate reminder to be aware of the situations we put ourselves in. always find out if the route you are climbing requires a 60 meter (or even longer) rope, as this has become the standard in many areas. It would be unfortunate to hear of other incidents such as this in the future, although I'm sure we will.
i wish the best for all parties involved.
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angelaa
May 25, 2005, 4:41 PM
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This serves as a good reminder that BOTH climber and belayer should tie into the rope before starting a climb!
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nthusiastj
May 25, 2005, 5:10 PM
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I almost feel sorry for the guy.
Perhaps he would have been allright had he taken the 5 seconts to tie a knot in the end of his rope.
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rocknap
May 25, 2005, 5:20 PM
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In reply to: I almost feel sorry for the guy. Perhaps he would have been allright had he taken the 5 seconts to tie a knot in the end of his rope.
Creepy! I was at Happy Hour just after all this and without knowing what had just happened, I instructed some people in the use of a barrel knot in the end of the rope to prevent exactly this from happening..
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nthusiastj
May 25, 2005, 5:44 PM
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In reply to: In reply to: I almost feel sorry for the guy. Perhaps he would have been allright had he taken the 5 seconts to tie a knot in the end of his rope. Creepy! I was at Happy Hour just after all this and without knowing what had just happened, I instructed some people in the use of a barrel knot in the end of the rope to prevent exactly this from happening..
You're a smart man.
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pheenixx
May 25, 2005, 6:04 PM
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In reply to: Interesting how the local newspaper mentions the fact that a contributing factor to the chopper not landing was the presence of a news chopper in the vicinity. Quote: "Sheriff's Deputy Gary Robinson said the aircraft also had difficulty landing because of a Fox News helicopter that wouldn't leave the airspace. "We can't have two choppers in the air this close," Robinson said. "And I'm not getting a lot of cooperation." Strangely, Fox News never mentioned this in their report!
This is frickin' rediculous. Fox should be sued -- for something - by somebody. Shame on them and all of the BS "extreme" news sensationalism -- risking the life of another human being during a crirical rescue.
Best wishes to the injured for complete recovery -- wow, it never hurts for me to be reminded "TIE A KNOT" in the end of that rope -- but it may hurt me or someone else if I forget... :?
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reno
May 25, 2005, 8:38 PM
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In reply to: Interesting how the local newspaper mentions the fact that a contributing factor to the chopper not landing was the presence of a news chopper in the vicinity. Quote: "Sheriff's Deputy Gary Robinson said the aircraft also had difficulty landing because of a Fox News helicopter that wouldn't leave the airspace. "We can't have two choppers in the air this close," Robinson said. "And I'm not getting a lot of cooperation."
Odd. If the medical helicopter was operating under lifeguard status, the newsies are obligated to move aside. If the medical helo isn't under lifeguard status, then why? And despite all this, why did the patient go to a non-trauma hospital? Something ain't right in all this.
Regardless, I hope the injured climber comes through alright.
Safety first, gang.
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zozo
May 26, 2005, 3:16 AM
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I worked for a FOX news outfit... trust me, ethics are of little condern.
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pheenixx
May 26, 2005, 3:26 AM
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In reply to: I worked for a FOX news outfit... trust me, ethics are of little condern.
could that be a picture of your boss - showing us where his head is at..??
sorry I just coundn't resist...
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climbingnurse
May 26, 2005, 3:37 AM
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In reply to: In reply to: Interesting how the local newspaper mentions the fact that a contributing factor to the chopper not landing was the presence of a news chopper in the vicinity. Quote: "Sheriff's Deputy Gary Robinson said the aircraft also had difficulty landing because of a Fox News helicopter that wouldn't leave the airspace. "We can't have two choppers in the air this close," Robinson said. "And I'm not getting a lot of cooperation." Odd. If the medical helicopter was operating under lifeguard status, the newsies are obligated to move aside. If the medical helo isn't under lifeguard status, then why? And despite all this, why did the patient go to a non-trauma hospital? Something ain't right in all this. Regardless, I hope the injured climber comes through alright. Safety first, gang.
I was thinking the same thing. Why was a helicopter called if the guy had injuries that could be treated at BCH? Sounds to me like he wasn't injured very badly. But I hate monday morning quarterbacking as much as the next guy...
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couchwarrior
May 26, 2005, 3:49 AM
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In reply to: But I hate monday morning quarterbacking as much as the next guy...
Well, if that's true, you couldn't have picked a worse website to spend your time :D
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reno
May 26, 2005, 5:03 AM
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In reply to: I worked for a FOX news outfit... trust me, ethics are of little condern.
It ain't an ethics issue, it's a law issue.
I won't delve too far into the issue, cause it is not germaine to the case at hand, but I will say this:
I flew a patient, who was critical in nature, to a PHX area hospital. The conversation between our pilot and Air Traffic Control was thus:
"Tower, Lifeguard Evac 2... need direct to County General."
"Evac 2, Tower....Negative, come East of ASU, then North, then West, per normal flight pattern."
"Tower, Evac 2.... I don't think you heard me... this is a Lifeguard status flight, and I need direct to County General."
"Evac 2, Tower.... Copy that, stand by. Break. Air Force One, Tower... Please make a go around, I've got Lifeguard Evac 2 needing direct to County General."
Yep... I made George Dubya take an extra lap.
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climbingnurse
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In reply to: Yep... I made George Dubya take an extra lap.
Awesome!
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climbingnurse
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In reply to: In reply to: But I hate monday morning quarterbacking as much as the next guy... Well, if that's true, you couldn't have picked a worse website to spend your time :D
Tell me about it.
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nextascent
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OMG Reno.....nicely done!
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christinagurvin
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I am Christina the climber's sister!!! I first would like to say that I dont appreciate the rude remarks regarding my brother saying pretty much he is stupid seeing as though Im sure you have all made some mistakes before and nobody is at fault it was an ACCIDENT! Check the meaning of the word ACCIDENT please and stop with your rude comments. Second of all, I would like to say Bryce did have serious injuries and due to the fact he couldnt be air lifted was transfered to the nearest hospital...He cushed his heel which he will be having surgery on, and he fractured his other foot and his wrist, and two vertabrate in his back...he has sustained serious injuries and i thank god that he is still alive, so PLEASE stop making comments that he really wasnt hurt becuase you have no idea what you are talking about...NOW third of all, WHY WAS THE ROUTE NOT MARKED AS A 60M ROUTE????? Thats all for now and Im sorry that this may seem harsh but he is my brother and to get on here and here such things like he didn't sustain any injuries and "I almost feel sorry for him" really makes me mad!!!
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christinagurvin
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I understand the fact that they fucked up but comments were made such as "I almost feel sorry for the guy", and "he must not have been injuried very badly" I appreciate everybody who has wished his speedy recovery but those who make comments such as those listed above really need to think before they speak....BOTH parties do have some fault but seriously it was just an accident so whatever I dont care I drove up here from texas to be with my brother so i have to go
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May 30, 2005, 7:59 PM
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In reply to: I almost feel sorry for the guy. Perhaps he would have been allright had he taken the 5 seconts to tie a knot in the end of his rope.
You should have the decency to delete this post.
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couchwarrior
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In reply to: Please understand that the climbing community is a very close-knit one, and when someone is injured, whether we know him/her or not, we all feel it.
Uhh, yeah. We're close-knit, all right. That's why people around here are always telling others to STFU or threatening to kick each other's asses, or sharing unsupported opinions of the behavior of others, or calling child protective services.
Yeah, I can feel the love!
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